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Old 11-08-2011   #21
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...how many qb's can you point to that are clearly producing better on their current team than Schaub? There are a few more teams now that I think about it but that list is not very long at all.

That wasn't what you initially said and that is a completely different point IMO.

You basically said not many teams would keep their QB over Schaub...or that most teams in the league would consider it...

Schaub has a good situation around him. He is defintely a part of that and not a minus.

But If I look at the situation he is playing in and the offensive system/playcalling I think that there are quite a few QB's that could come in and at the very least play close to the level that Schaub is playing at.
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HOUSTON—The Texans have catapulted from 30th to first in defense under first-year coordinator Wade Phillips. They’ve held three consecutive opponents to fewer than 175 yards and for the season they're allowing 274 yards per game. They’re fourth against the run (91.4 yards) and second against the pass (182.6). They were last in pass defense last season.

There are two primary reasons for the Texans' rank. First, there’s the competition. They’re coming off three consecutive victories over quarterbacks Matt Hasselbeck (Titans), Blaine Gabbert (Jaguars) and Colt McCoy (Browns). Second, backups have done a splendid job of replacing injured players. Rookie Brooks Reed has four sacks, and at least one in three consecutive games, in place of OLB Mario Williams. Troy Nolan has been solid in the last two games in place of FS Danieal Manning. He has been a formidable last line of defense, and he’s played the run well. When he’s been called on to blitz, he’s applied pressure.

Quintin Demps was signed to replace Nolan as the top backup safety. He had been waived in the last roster reduction. Demps is playing so well he could start for some teams.



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This, I think, is the most mind boggling part of the whole thing. He's played at a much higher level when we didn't have a running game, a dependable OL, or a half decent defense.

Now we're just blowing up at RB, OL, defense, & he's not playing at that same level.

I understand Andre is gone & we won three games in a row, but it appears his sense of urgency is non-existent if we're not down by two scores.

Every third down (at least) should be a "must win" situation. I don't want him to throw an INT or anything, but I'd like to know he did everything he could to safely pick up that third & I'm not getting that "feeling" from him. It's like if he leaves the pocket, he's throwing it out of bounds.

That's a criticism I had of him prior to the 2009 season. 2009 & 2010 it seemed like he took a step & was playing with that urgency & he was making plays from the QB position. Now, not so much. If it isn't there, he's not going to make it happen.
Texans are 6th in the league in converting 3rd downs and Schaub gets dogged because that evidently isn't good enough for some? That he's not playing with urgency (as you see it)?

And I'd much rather see him throw it away, even on 3rd down, let the defense do their thing and live for another series than to try and force it so you can have that "feeling" from him, and turn the ball over.

Schaub is 6th in yards per attempt (half a yard higher than last season), 8th in QB rating, tied for 3rd in pass plays of 40 yards or more (already 2 away from what he had all of last season), tied for 4th in pass plays of 20 yards or more, and has less INTs than Brady, Brees, Rivers and Roethlisberger and 13 other starting QBs, and is tied for 8th in TD passes on a team that leads the AFC in rushing TDs.

What the hell else do you want from him, keeping in mind that he's not a Brees, Brady, or Peyton?
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You know, I'm tired.... so tired of hearing this excuse.

It's not like we're the only team in the league facing those three opponents.

Baltimore has played Matt Hasselbeck, Blaine GAbbert, & Colt McCoy..... well, they're going to play the Browns, twice. In place of all the other "weak" teams we have played, Baltimore has played Seattle, Arizona, & St Louis, not exactly top ten offensive competition here. All ranked 23 or lower in offense.

Pittsburgh has played Matt Hasselbeck, Blaine Gabbert, & Colt McCoy... Well, they will play Colt McCoy, twice. In place of all the other weak teams we've played, they've played Seattle, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, & Arizona, again all 23rd or lower.

If you want another way to look at it, the Indianapolis Colts have played Matt Hasselbeck, Blaine Gabbert, & Colt McCoy... but they have the 31st ranked defense in total yards allowed.
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Texans are 6th in the league in converting 3rd downs and Schaub gets dogged because that evidently isn't good enough for some? That he's not playing with urgency (as you see it)?

And I'd much rather see him throw it away, even on 3rd down, let the defense do their thing and live for another series than to try and force it so you can have that "feeling" from him, and turn the ball over...
I'd rather see him throw it out of bounds as well when no one is open.
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I'd rather see him throw it out of bounds as well when no one is open.
On one of his throw aways, the commentator replayed it & showed it in slow motion with a birds eye view.

In that view, you see there is no one around Matt, a perfect pocket.

You see Jacoby (I think) on a deep route, with a nice gap between the safety & the corner........ it would have had to have been a good throw, but a good throw would have been a 50+ yard completion & possibly a touchdown... assuming Jacoby catches it.

If he didn't feel comfortable with throwing to Jacoby (& I can understand that) there was someone else in the middle, wide te phug open.... I want to say it was OD, but why wouldn't he throw it to OD?

Instead of throwing to either, he breaks from the pocket, head towards the sideline & throws it away.
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6 of week 9's top passers were losers. 3 of week nines top rushers were losers. 7 of week 9's top receivers were losers. What's the connection? While everyone describes the NFL as a "passing league" nowadays, the results can show something quite different. If a team can build a decent lead and rush the ball consistently, they have a very good chance of winning. That depends on a very good defense. If you can build a decent lead and have a somewhat suspect defense, the chances of winning decrease, probably close to linearly. Green Bay and New England probably screw that curve up though, since they have dominant offenses.
Basically, if a team can do what the Texans do: run the ball well and defend the run run well, they have a very good chance of winning if they have a lead. That seems to be the results we've witnessed this season. The Texans are starting hot, establishing a decent lead and running the ball well. The defense is making the opposing O's more one dimensional and virtually eliminating the run. The end result is a better W-L ratio than any Texan team has had through 10 years through 9 games. That makes the INT at the end of the Raiders game sting all that much more for me. This team, by all means, SHOULD be 7-2 and firmly in the hunt for the top seed in the AFC. Hopefully, the letdown in the Raiders game served as the "any given Sunday" reminder and the team won't lose to any other teams they should beat. Personally, I see 12-4 as the regular season record and at least a trip to the AFC Championship Game in our future.
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We're not starting rookies that haven't earned it.

Competition.
We start our first round pick every single year. Kubiak puts them on the first team before training camp even starts.
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Tate vs Foster
Jones vs Walter
Daniels vs Dressen
Sharpton vs Demeco
Jackson vs Allen
Nolan vs Manning
Jamison vs Smith
Reed/Barwin vs Williams
Mitchel vs Cody

Why does this team keep answering the bell? Why do they not miss a beat when they experience injury after injury after injury? Why is that next man "ready" to go? (with the exception of Shilo Keo who we went out & found a replacement for)...

I think it's competition. The same thing that made Cushing DROY (twice).... he's always had healthy competition with Demeco & they've both been among our best players.

Now Tate & Foster has their thing going.

What if that competition is all over our roster? What if that is the difference between these Texans & last year's Texans?

We're not starting rookies that haven't earned it. I mean Cushing & Demeco started as well as any rookie I've ever seen, but that doesn't happen all the time, to come in & make an impact at MLB, or the kind of impact Brian has had.

Competition.
Everyone on your list except for Manning and Reed was here last year. We had the same competition last year so I'm not buying your version of competition. Its an upgraded coordinator to go along with some talent.

... and for having a cream puff of a schedule. We're gonna get killed in the playoffs.
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... and for having a cream puff of a schedule. We're gonna get killed in the playoffs.
Remember the Seahawks? They had a cream puff schedule and won first round against Saints.

No one can play Packers every week.
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Remember the Seahawks? They had a cream puff schedule and won first round against Saints.

No one can play Packers every week.
Eh. Losing to the Saints, Falcons, Giants and beating the Chargers and Bears isn't much of a cream puff. Who do we got this year? Falcons, Ravens, and Saints?
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