Saints Game: Schaub Grabs Helmet in Apparent Pain

[wildroot]

Originally Posted by foo82

Wouldn't your first reaction be to take your helmet off instead clutching it in the fetal position?

Yeah, I don't think holding your helmet would give you too much comfort.

[wildroot]

I thought the player may have brushed his knee against his helmet in the replays, and that's being generous. I was having visions of David Carr for a moment.

[DexmanC]

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[gary]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I didn't think he was faking, I thought he took another shot to the head, I saw two earlier, and was just sick & tired of the refs not calling it, so he was trying to draw attention to it.

I agree with what Michael Vick said, I don't agree with how he said it.

If there is anything I do not like about Kubiak's sideline demeanor, is that he doesn't light into the referees when we don't get the calls we should.

Now if a player unintentionally bumped my QBs helmet, that's another story. But Matt's been taking helmet to helmet contact, late hits, unnecessary roughness.... & Kubiak (as far as I know) doesn't say anything.

I think, it's just like basketball. If the coach cries about it, the referees will start looking for it. & you'll get the calls you should.

It was just meant to be a comical post based on this thread from a week ago. Here it is just in case you missed it but I agree with your premise.
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85145

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

If there is anything I do not like about Kubiak's sideline demeanor, is that he doesn't light into the referees when we don't get the calls we should.

You couldn't be more wrong. Kubiak drops F-bombs and lights into referees walking yards onto the field to do so with regularity when he doesn't like calls.

[HJam72]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

You couldn't be more wrong. Kubiak drops F-bombs and lights into referees walking yards onto the field to do so with regularity when he doesn't like calls.

Yeah, the problem though is that he does it when the flag is thrown and doesn't know it's a penalty against the other team.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

You couldn't be more wrong. Kubiak drops F-bombs and lights into referees walking yards onto the field to do so with regularity when he doesn't like calls.

Exactly. Pretty cool how people tend to perpetuate things that are completely false.





I'm pretty sure he's not asking for the refs address to send a Christmas card to.

[Norg]

should have been roughing the passer pentaly

He was on the ground and like 2 sec later a saints player walks over to him and falls on him like a downward tackle motion

[Maddict5]

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

You couldn't be more wrong. Kubiak drops F-bombs and lights into referees walking yards onto the field to do so with regularity when he doesn't like calls.

Yeah.... I didn't say anything about Kubiak not getting into it with the referees.

I'm talking about the non-calls. I understand there are way too many non-calls to get into with the refs each & every time... sometimes they are judgement calls.... & sometimes they said their peace with the refs the night before.

But I'm talking about when your QB is getting molested on a regular basis. When Shaub took that hit from Jared Allen, I don't believe there was a flag..... Kubiak should have been all up & down that ref whose job it is to watch his QB. That's an extreme case, but I've seen Schaub take two or three hits a game that shouldn't even be questionable.... no flag when Peyton or Brady would get every questionable call & then some.

[GP]

I'd like to discuss what's truth and what's spin. The divergence into Kubiak's demeanor with refs is hijacking this topic.

As to the topic: If you have a noise blaring in your ears, why do you cover the earholes on your helmet and further heighten the noise's effects on your ears??? Doesn't wash with me.

File this one as Schaub jokingly being honest and the Texans putting spin on it, in light of the recent Injury Gate drama with the Giants. Period.

He was trying to draw a flag, which is something we damn sure needed lots of in that 4th quarter. I don't blame him for trying. The Texans are covering for him, which they should do as well. Round and round the Battle Red Wagon goes! LOL.

[Maddict5]

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Maddict5

"You're right, my fault..... High five??


Nope.... alright, I'll just go back to the sideline


by myself... All alone... but Im good with that"

[GP]

Originally Posted by Maddict5

"That's fuggin' bull****, Joe!"

I have a feeling he was pissed off with the special teams unit right there.

[badboy]

When I saw the play I though "neck stinger" especially when he returned to play.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by GP

"That's fuggin' bull****, Joe!"

I have a feeling he was pissed off with the special teams unit right there.

I made that GIF from the game at Indy 2 years ago, when the refs screwed the Texans
out of a call.

[GP]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

I made that GIF from the game at Indy 2 years ago, when the refs screwed the Texans
out of a call.

When you watch the gif of Kubiak....say it with him, but in the voice of Mr. T from the A-Team tv show. LOL.

[silentassassin]

Originally Posted by Maddict5

I believe that is from the '09 season against the Colts in Lucas Oil. I think the defense had a bunch of calls against them in the 1st half, and Kubes was throwing around the word "horse****" a LOT. I vividly remember this.

[Texan_Bill]

I can remember people complaining about how Kubiak isn't "fiery"... Clearly, they were wrong. Now TK (and you're my Cat, dog!) is reaching for that the fact that Kubiak didn't raise a stink about the Jared "cheap shot" Allen hit. Let's see, it was real time. Texans were down 14-7. They were speeding up the offense. Lastly, at the time of the play Matt was being pressured and shuffled to his left. Then Pitts scrambles to block Allen which could potentially look like blocked Allen into Schaub at real time...

Is the video crew at the MetroDome going to show the replay in slow-mo for the Texans and Kubiak to review and to throw a fit? Hardly.. It wasn't after they had a chance to review the game film before they realized it was a cheap shot. IIRC, the Texans sent a few film views of the play to the league...

Kubiak deserves criticism, like EVERY coach in the league. That said, lets pick and choose our battles more wisely... People, quit with the "Kubiak isn't fiery enough" or this situation with Jared Allen.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Kubiak deserves criticism, like EVERY coach in the league. That said, lets pick and choose our battles more wisely... People, quit with the "Kubiak isn't fiery enough" or this situation with Jared Allen.

I never said Kubiak wasn't fiery enough. I wisely chose this battle as I said, "the only gripe I have."

& I was pretty specific about what I wanted & why.

The Jared Allen is the only incident I mentioned specifically, but I wasn't referring to it specifically. I mentioned I saw two to three hits on Schaub each game this year that I would have liked to have seen a flag.

It might not mean anything right away, but hopefully by the time we get to the play-offs, the refs would actually start doing their job & watch.

It's a bit of an NBA mentality...... the squeaky wheel gets the grease.