The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan

kubes qb folded in the second half, duh. would you take schaub over brees? thats where the battle was won today

Two weeks from now, someone will bring this game up in an argument. Most likely citing it as a bad game by Matt Schaub. But the stats are going to say Matt had a great game & that's all we will remember.

We had a 6 point lead going into the second half & scored 17 points in the second half. That should have been enough to win. We picked Brees twice, sacked him twice (Schaub only got sacked once, picked once)

As great as our defense played in the first half, they folded when we had the lead. Someone said it in the gameday thread. We were asking too much from our defense.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

He coached his ass off in the first half.... Payton did not.

Payton won the second half... I don't know what the heck Kubiak was doing in the second half.

I don't get this.
If anything, Kubiak and Dennison should be crucified for the first half. Five red zone visits and only one TD.
If anyone gets torched for the second half it's Wade for allowing 30 (that's a point a minute for those scoring at home) second-half points.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

I don't get this.
If anything, Kubiak and Dennison should be crucified for the first half. Five red zone visits and only one TD.
If anyone gets torched for the second half it's Wade for allowing 30 (that's a point a minute for those scoring at home) second-half points.

And the Saints didn't get to the redzone once in the first half.


What's your point?

We outscored the Saints, 16-10 in the first half.... point, Kubiak.

[Second Honeymoon]

Kubiak is never going to do squat as a HC. He has never met a challenge he couldn't fail at.

2-19 v. Winning teams on road. You suck, Gary

[bigbrewster2000]

Originally Posted by Second Honeymoon

Kubiak is never going to do squat as a HC. He has never met a challenge he couldn't fail at.

2-19 v. Winning teams on road. You suck, Gary

That's not even close to fair. I dont blame this loss one bit on the HC. The loss sucked especially the way it happened but get real Schaub blew the game not Kubiak.

[Thorn]

Originally Posted by bigbrewster2000

That's not even close to fair. I dont blame this loss one bit on the HC. The loss sucked especially the way it happened but get real Schaub blew the game not Kubiak.

There are a lot of things that went wrong, but I'm waiting to see how the team responds to the Steelers, Raiders and Ravens. As to Kubiak, until he is actually a winning coach, which he isn't, he's still a loser. That's just the way it is.

[GNTLEWOLF]

Originally Posted by Thorn

There are a lot of things that went wrong, but I'm waiting to see how the team responds to the Steelers, Raiders and Ravens. As to Kubiak, until he is actually a winning coach, which he isn't, he's still a loser. That's just the way it is.

Noy only is this a very reasonable statement, it is also very true. I agree.
Arrrrg! must spread rep

[cdain1]

Christmas present from me to you Gary. Use this gift any way you see fit.

[eriadoc]

95 games in his head coaching career - NINETY FIVES GAMES - and he's 47-48.

I really don't think there's much else that needs to be said.

[MEGA SWATT]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

95 games in his head coaching career - NINETY FIVES GAMES - and he's 47-48.

I really don't think there's much else that needs to be said.

All that matters is the last 15 games. He's 10-5, locked up the AFC South C'ship - end of story. The only reason he does not have a legit shot at a SB this yr is due to very key injuries.

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by TEXANS4MARIO

All that matters is the last 15 games. He's 10-5, locked up the AFC South C'ship - end of story. The only reason he does not have a legit shot at a SB this yr is due to very key injuries.

Actually, all that matters are the next two to four games. Unfortunately, past performance IS an indicator of future success.

[Brisco_County]

I'm not defending Kubiak here, but going from "coach of the year" to "off with his head" is pretty schitzo.

[eriadoc]

The underlying problems remain. Just one bad game, but the problems that made him a mediocre coach his first 95 games are still there.

[Lurvinator11]

It's silly to bring up this thread. Absolutely silly. It wasn't just Kubiak, it was the WHOLE DAMN TEAM! Are we gonna fire them too??

If we are going to fire anyone, it is Coach Joe.

Dude has overstayed his welcome.

The loss was bad, but we are over reacting. Now if we finish like 8-8 after starting 5-0, then yes. Fire everyone.

[fiasco west]

Fire Wade too.

Get rid of Rick Smith while we are at it...

Time to rebuild. (What a horrible time to bump this thread.)

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[Mailman]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

The underlying problems remain. Just one bad game, but the problems that made him a mediocre coach his first 95 games are still there.

You bumped this thread for this?


It's one loss, after five consecutive wins, not to mention that divisional playoff game last season...and you still want to fire the coach?


Wow. Just freakin wow.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Two weeks from now, someone will bring this game up in an argument. Most likely citing it as a bad game by Matt Schaub. But the stats are going to say Matt had a great game & that's all we will remember.

We had a 6 point lead going into the second half & scored 17 points in the second half. That should have been enough to win. We picked Brees twice, sacked him twice (Schaub only got sacked once, picked once)

As great as our defense played in the first half, they folded when we had the lead. Someone said it in the gameday thread. We were asking too much from our defense.

You know, it's interesting that you mention Matt's bad game because I thought before the game started when they showed him in pre-game warmups he had the weirdest look on his face. He looked like he was already whipped. I'm serious, I want to go back and dig up some screenshots of that because it caught my attention right away. It was some of the most negative, hang-dog looking it expression and body language I can remember ever seeing out of him. He looked like that all night from the opening drive. It's like he was pissed off about something and not something he could channel into his game.

I wonder what was up with that?

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by Lurvinator11

It's silly to bring up this thread. Absolutely silly. It wasn't just Kubiak, it was the WHOLE DAMN TEAM! Are we gonna fire them too??

This game, it was the whole team. Every game, it's whole team. You're absolutely right. But you know what? There's one common thread and Kubiak's problems haven't changed. Take away Kubiak's issues tonight and they probably still get beat. But after this long, those problems shouldn't be contributing to a loss like this. A loss is just a loss. This one stings a bit more.

If we are going to fire anyone, it is Coach Joe.

Dude has overstayed his welcome.

Well, there's one guy that's been keeping him around past his welcome. If you need a hint, check the thread title.

The loss was bad, but we are over reacting. Now if we finish like 8-8 after starting 5-0, then yes. Fire everyone.

Originally Posted by fiasco west

Fire Wade too.

Get rid of Rick Smith while we are at it...

Time to rebuild. (What a horrible time to bump this thread.)

Actually, the great thing about bumping this three year old thread is that it isn't overreacting. It's a thought process that's been marinating for three years (more for some). It's not like the team got blown out tonight and people started thinking Kubiak is awful despite a 5-1 record. It's that we've thought he's awful for a very long time and the same old, same old problems resurfaced tonight. That's all.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by Brisco_County

I'm not defending Kubiak here, but going from "coach of the year" to "off with his head" is pretty schitzo.

Not really. Not if you never thought he deserved the award to begin with.

Coach of the year was Wade Phillips. Gary was luckiest coach of the year.

But no, I'm not calling for his firing. Mostly because I know it's not going to happen any time in the next decade. Gary Kubiak's won a playoff game. Gary's gonna be here as long as he wants.