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Old 08-07-2011   #21
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Yes it's going to take more than the best WR and the NFL rushing king to beat the vaunted Colts defense.
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Man, those guys posting that stuff are ultimate homers.

LOL. Looking for any little sign they can find.

Guess what? I think the Colts QB will be fine. He will play game 1. He will be as good as he always has been. I don't sit here and go "Ooo! Ooo! Their QB has a broken neck, and he's going to get killed by the Texans!" No, I know full well that our opponents are capable of beating us.

But you read some stuff like what those goobers posted, and you shake your head. They've been so accustomed to having Robo-QB back there that they are going to have a rude awakening one day when he's old and dried up and can't handle it anymore. That place should be fun to watch when he retires. It will be End Times mindset there.

Hopefully, this is the year we take the division. Manhandle our divisional opponents. Make a statement. Hopefully. LOL.
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Wade did a little of everything this defense, thankfully with the stamp of approval from the management. He's taken what he could off the old roster and put a few pieces in better positions to succeed (Williams/Ryans/Cushing/Barwin/Quin) drafted a few pieces (Watt/Reed/Harris) that should make some impact, gotten his men in free agency (Joseph/Manning) and developed a young player (Mitchell). The only positions he hasn't really addressed is CB2 which is a good competition and Antonio Smith's DE who is playing in the wrong defense. That's a lot of fixin' for one year.
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Yes it's going to take more than the best WR and the NFL rushing king to beat the vaunted Colts defense.
If I remember correctly last season we stomped Colts game one and was leading in 4th quarter late. I think we should beat our division all 6 games.
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Wade did a little of everything this defense, thankfully with the stamp of approval from the management. He's taken what he could off the old roster and put a few pieces in better positions to succeed (Williams/Ryans/Cushing/Barwin/Quin) drafted a few pieces (Watt/Reed/Harris) that should make some impact, gotten his men in free agency (Joseph/Manning) and developed a young player (Mitchell). The only positions he hasn't really addressed is CB2 which is a good competition and Antonio Smith's DE who is playing in the wrong defense. That's a lot of fixin' for one year.
The only part of that I'll disagree with is Antonio Smith. As a DE/DT in a 4-3, he's a good fit for a 3-4 DE. He left Arizona and came here, in part, because he didn't want to be a 3-4 DE or a 4-3 DT. He wanted to be a 4-3 DE. But he's got the size and skills to excel as a 3-4 DE and I think it's his best position. I think this D will be good for him and judging from his recent comments, he agrees.
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Wade did a little of everything this defense, thankfully with the stamp of approval from the management. He's taken what he could off the old roster and put a few pieces in better positions to succeed (Williams/Ryans/Cushing/Barwin/Quin) drafted a few pieces (Watt/Reed/Harris) that should make some impact, gotten his men in free agency (Joseph/Manning) and developed a young player (Mitchell). The only positions he hasn't really addressed is CB2 which is a good competition and Antonio Smith's DE who is playing in the wrong defense. That's a lot of fixin' for one year.
I think they did address cb2.

By signing Joseph they pushed everyone down the depth chart and they drafted 2 corners, one in the second round.

Someone should emerge as an at least decent player there.
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If I remember correctly last season we stomped Colts game one and was leading in 4th quarter late. I think we should beat our division all 6 games.
Shoulda beaten em with ****ing Sage Rosenfels as the QB what the **** I hate that game.
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Defenses come together faster than offenses. That's just the way it happens. The Texans defense in 2002 was made of pieces from all over the league and was ready to play hard by the end of preseason. That was a Vic Fangio coached defense that supposedly employed a system that players described as relatively complex.

By most measures I believe Wade Phillips is considered a very good DC and a good teacher. I expect the defense to be ready to play adequately by opening day and to really hit it's stride by the 5th week of the season.
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I expect the defense to be ready to play adequately by opening day and to really hit it's stride by the 5th week of the season.
That's about what I'm thinking as well.
I expect 3 out of the first 4 games to be shootouts, or at least fairly high scoring (Indy, NO, Pitt), but then we see Oakland, Baltimore, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Tamp, and Jacksonville again.

I think the D will improve quite a bit though this stretch of games. No scary offenses in that group.
No real quality QBs in that group either, other than possibly Flacco, depending on your opinion of him. My opinion of him is pretty much meh...
Josh Freeman is decent, and could show some improvement by that game. He just might be the better QB out of all of those teams by that time.
Overall, I think the D will do well during that stretch.
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That's about what I'm thinking as well.
I expect 3 out of the first 4 games to be shootouts, or at least fairly high scoring (Indy, NO, Pitt), but then we see Oakland, Baltimore, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Tamp, and Jacksonville again.

I think the D will improve quite a bit though this stretch of games. No scary offenses in that group.
No real quality QBs in that group either, other than possibly Flacco, depending on your opinion of him. My opinion of him is pretty much meh...
Josh Freeman is decent, and could show some improvement by that game. He just might be the better QB out of all of those teams by that time.
Overall, I think the D will do well during that stretch.
We can only hope the opposing offense gets the surprise of their lives and our guys intercept a few passes, because I would be throwing at our #2 corner until they stop me. Probably would not let one INT change my mind.

If KJ does start and has some success early, it could really boost his confidence. There is still long way to go before game one.
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Defenses come together faster than offenses. That's just the way it happens. The Texans defense in 2002 was made of pieces from all over the league and was ready to play hard by the end of preseason. That was a Vic Fangio coached defense that supposedly employed a system that players described as relatively complex.

By most measures I believe Wade Phillips is considered a very good DC and a good teacher. I expect the defense to be ready to play adequately by opening day and to really hit it's stride by the 5th week of the season.
Remember Frank Bush's first year.

The preseason & the first three games, our defense looked woefully pathetic. Then over the final 13 games they looked like a real NFL defense.
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Defenses come together faster than offenses. That's just the way it happens. The Texans defense in 2002 was made of pieces from all over the league and was ready to play hard by the end of preseason. That was a Vic Fangio coached defense that supposedly employed a system that players described as relatively complex.
Aaron Glenn played for both Fangio and Wade in a 3-4. He said Fangio's defense was like calculus. Lots of reads and very complex, requiring players to make decisions to react a split second before the ball is hiked.

Glenn said Wade's 3-4, on the other hand, was addition and subtraction. Wade's entire philosophy is focused on getting to the QB and getting turnovers. Glenn said that if players just consistently fulfill their assignments, Wade's defense is the way to go. Glenn said some really positive things about Phillips and loved playing for him.

It is because of Wade that I am allowing some optimism about the Texans into my brain.
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Look at the Colts all you want to, but Jacksonville under Del Rio
OWNS Kubiak's Texans. Fisher's no longer in Tennessee, so maybe
they have a shot.

In other words...


I'll believe the Texans can win the division once they ACTUALLY DO IT.

This is the same team that will rack up an 8-2 out of the AFC South,
but go 1-5 IN the division and expect to make the playoffs.

Don't forget....

Kubiak tried to outsmart the world in the second game against the
Colts, when he started the game VERY pass-happy. Everyone and
their GRANDMAMA knew that you pound the rock with Foster till
they PROVE they can stop it. Kubiak CHOKED.

I'll be paying close attention to the first 12 games.

beLEEEEEEEE DAT!!
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Just a point but Kubiak is 5-5 against Del Rio's Jags and one of those losses was in OT. That's not really my definition of "owned".

The Texans were 3-3 in the division last year and ended up with a 6-10 record. I'd prefer the 1-5 in the division that we had the year before if we end up 9-7 or better.

But we definitely need to start off better than 5-7.
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Just a point but Kubiak is 5-5 against Del Rio's Jags and one of those losses was in OT. That's not really my definition of "owned".

The Texans were 3-3 in the division last year and ended up with a 6-10 record. I'd prefer the 1-5 in the division that we had the year before if we end up 9-7 or better.

But we definitely need to start off better than 5-7.
I agree big time. I bet Dex would love to change his sig. I know I want him to be able to.

Our schedule out of the gate it looks pretty tough. I hope Wade can get this defense ready day 1 but that's a pretty tall order. If they gel in the 4th to 5th week then I think the season's maybe not in great shape, but salvagable. I think it depends on which games we can 'steal' up front. JMO
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