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The Pencil Neck · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by michaelm

Good News:

I just put this in another thread.

michaelm · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

I just put this in another thread.

I guess that means you keep your Twitter feed running on your desktop like me, probably while you "ehem..." work?

The Pencil Neck · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by michaelm

I guess that means you keep your Twitter feed running on your desktop like me, probably while you "ehem..." work?

Just started doing it a few days ago when someone (GP?) mentioned TweetDeck.

I'm working.

Really.

Really.

Hard.

michaelm · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Just started doing it a few days ago when someone (GP?) mentioned TweetDeck.

I'm working.

Really.

Really.

Hard.

Ahh... we've come full circle. That was me pimping Tweet Deck in the Training Camp thread.

Errant Hothy · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by michaelm

Good News:

2.6 million is stash money in case somebody gets hurt. We're done signing anybody, new players will have to come by trade.

gary · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by Hoth-Boy

2.6 million is stash money in case somebody gets hurt. We're done signing anybody, new players will have to come by trade.

Use that money to sign Malcom Floyd. I wish.

thunderkyss · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by Grams

The Eagles were about 40 mill under to start with.

The Cheap Bastids

thunderkyss · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by DocBar

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Originally Posted by dalemurphy

Based on his 5 years in the NFL, we have a 40% chance that he will perform on par with the second tier of NFL outside pass rushers (Ray Edwards, Charles Johnson, Robert Mathis, Trent Cole).

He's top 7 in sacks, top 2-3 at DE in sacks and very good against the run since he's been in the league.

Year in & year out. Don't forget that. The difference between Mario & Ray Edwards is that Ray Edwards never had double digit sacks.

Mario has in two of his 6 years & was on pace to do it again in 2010, & that's on the Texans' historically poor defense. Had he been on the Vikings, with a real pass defense, his sacks would have been much higher.

thunderkyss · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by DocBar

The only doubt the Texans should have is the switch to OLB. That experiment will playout this season. Mow if he is a bomb instead of da bomb, you can start looking at trades for him. He would be insanely expensive for a 3-4 DE and probably not nearly as productive. I guess what I'm saying is trading MW should be the last resort, not the first option.

I believe Mario is a FA after this season. If we're going to do a contract, it should be some time before the year is over.

We won't be able to trade him otherwise.

Trading him, or cutting him now will only free up what he is due in salary this year, any "credit" from his bonus or guaranteed money that hasn't been accounted for will go against this years cap.

DocBar · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I believe Mario is a FA after this season. If we're going to do a contract, it should be some time before the year is over.

We won't be able to trade him otherwise.

Trading him, or cutting him now will only free up what he is due in salary this year, any "credit" from his bonus or guaranteed money that hasn't been accounted for will go against this years cap.

Yeah, I've had some time to think about that and realized I screwed the pooch with that argument.

Ole Miss Texan · 08-05-2011

If after the season Wade decides he does not want Mario, they should franchise him and seek a trade. He'll be free to negotiate a L/T contract with the new team. Letting him walk would not be good.

gary · 08-05-2011

If Mario starts out really well this season then you lock him up right then and there.

**badboy** · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by michaelm

Good News:

That + the $3m cash benefit (if not used already) is pretty close to Asante Samuel's deal this year. Just saying..

nytexan · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

If after the season Wade decides he does not want Mario, they should franchise him and seek a trade. He'll be free to negotiate a L/T contract with the new team. Letting him walk would not be good.

Unless Mario has a serious injury or just a horrendous year (doubtful), if you think Mario is not going to get a monster contract from either the Texans or someone else after the Charles Johnson contract with Carolina and the Julius Peppers contract with da Bears you are delusional.

He'll end up being the #1 free agent next year and the only way to get him on the relative cheap will be to franchise him, which only gets the Texans 1 extra year to come to an agreement. If you don't think the constant criticism of this guy since day 1 of the draft isn't a burr in his butt and he's not going for the MONEY, you're delusional also. There'll be several teams making room for his contract next year if the Texans don't pony up. Sorry haters but this guy isn't nearly as bad as you make him out to be and I don't mean you Ol Miss, this guys stats would look a lot better than they already do with any type of secondary play over the past few years.

dalemurphy · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Year in & year out. Don't forget that. The difference between Mario & Ray Edwards is that Ray Edwards never had double digit sacks.

Mario has in two of his 6 years & was on pace to do it again in 2010, & that's on the Texans' historically poor defense. Had he been on the Vikings, with a real pass defense, his sacks would have been much higher.

Edwards and Mario are about identical players the past two years. You are right! Mario played very good football in 2007 and 2008. But, it's 2011 now. I'm hoping, but not expecting, that Mario has another very good to great season.... It's been awhile and he sure is being paid enough to expect it.

**badboy** · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by gary

If Mario starts out really well this season then you lock him up right then and there.

Barwin gets 3 sacks and Reed has 4 by game 8. Mario has 6, do you keep him if there is a very good offer?

Rey · 08-05-2011

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Originally Posted by badboy

Barwin gets 3 sacks and Reed has 4 by game 8. Mario has 6, do you keep him if there is a very good offer?

You'd have to define very good offer.

But generally speaking I would keep him because there is more than just sacks. I see Mario as a better run defender than both of those guys.

Plus I like the fact that if Mario or barwin get hurt or need a break reed is there to fill in.

I'm in no hurry to make reed and barwin the starters with out much real depth behind them.

08-05-2011	#71
Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,635 Rep Power: 11393	Re: Texans $8.5 million over the cap If after the season Wade decides he does not want Mario, they should franchise him and seek a trade. He'll be free to negotiate a L/T contract with the new team. Letting him walk would not be good.

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gary Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Pole Age: 20 Posts: 20,444 Rep Power: 17571	Re: Texans $8.5 million over the cap If Mario starts out really well this season then you lock him up right then and there. __________________ Without the strength to endure the crisis, one will not see the opportunity within. It is within the process of endurance that opportunity reveals itself. Chin-Ning Chu -

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