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Old 07-26-2011   #381
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Jets' interest in Nnamdi Asomugha (and a dream pairing with Revis) is real interesting. Remember, Nnamdi played 5 yrs for Rex's brother Rob. I do think this about Nnamdi -- Winning is important this time around. And I believe he'd sacrifice some money for the right situation.
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Do I think he can help us? Hell yeah I do. Do I think we're one CB away from the superbowl? Nope. I think there are too many positions of need on defense to invest it all in one player. Having said that, I wouldn't be upset if we did sign him. I think that there are pros and cons to both scenarios.
What do you think our many positions of need are? I can think of 2 "need" positions. CB and S. We could use LB depth as well.
EDIT: Signing Aso will significantly reduce our need at S.
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Do I think he can help us? Hell yeah I do. Do I think we're one CB away from the superbowl? Nope. I think there are too many positions of need on defense to invest it all in one player. Having said that, I wouldn't be upset if we did sign him. I think that there are pros and cons to both scenarios.
I think the psychological impact is understated. Front 7 know that Aso would lock down one side of the field. The other DBs know they don't need to help him. Having Aso puts their minds to rest.

Also, having Aso fires up the team even more becuase its a sign from ownership that they will do ANYTHING to win.
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Antonio was the #1 rated DE available in FA the year we got him.

To be fair can you name any other players of Aso's caliber that have even come on the market for FA since Smith has been GM?
You're trying to use Antonio Smith as an example that Smith can pull off a high caliber player that's being targeted by several teams? Lol!

That's funny.
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What do you think our many positions of need are? I can think of 2 "need" positions. CB and S. We could use LB depth as well.


Each and every single one!!! C'mon man!!! We ALSO need LBs, Nose, WR, FB, OL, KR, punter.... that's just for starters.

Nnamdi's a pipe dream. We can't afford him...
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I don't expect a whole lot from Houston this year anyway.
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I wonder if the Texans potential participation in Hard Knocks could have been leveraged as added value in bringing Aso in.
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You're trying to use Antonio Smith as an example that Smith can pull off a high caliber player that's being targeted by several teams? Lol!

That's funny.
Can you name a high caliber player of Aso's level that has even been available since Smith was the GM?
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Each and every single one!!! C'mon man!!! We ALSO need LBs, Nose, WR, FB, OL, KR, punter.... that's just for starters.

Nnamdi's a pipe dream. We can't afford him...
Really? We have a very good WR corps, our OL is very good, with some depth, A little guy named Holliday is supposed to be one helluva kick returner(injured last season), Phillips says he's happy with our NT personnel. I agree we need LB help, but who would you sign as a FA that commands enough $$ to torpedo signing Aso? What on earth do you mean we need a punter? Besides, a punter is gonna screw the salary cap? Are we signing Janakowski? C'mon man yourself.
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Really? We have a very good WR corps, our OL is very good, with some depth, A little guy named Holliday is supposed to be one helluva kick returner(injured last season), Phillips says he's happy with our NT personnel. I agree we need LB help, but who would you sign as a FA that commands enough $$ to torpedo signing Aso? What on earth do you mean we need a punter? Besides, a punter is gonna screw the salary cap? Are we signing Janakowski? C'mon man yourself.
First off, we can do better at the #2 WR position. I like Walter, but he's not a huge threat and lacks that little bit of extra speed. I think he's clutch, but I still think an upgrade would help.
As far as Holliday goes, I wasn't impressed with him last preseason and I think the best thing that could gave happened to him was to get injured. I think he hesitated too much and looked a little scared. I wouldn't bank on him being a big contributor this year, but I hope I'm wrong.
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Wow there sure is a ton of negativity in this thread.

We're in the first day of the most interesting FA period in my lifetime. Can you not wait until this all shakes out before you go slamming our GM, our coach and the franchise? Geez.
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First off, we can do better at the #2 WR position. I like Walter, but he's not a huge threat and lacks that little bit of extra speed. I think he's clutch, but I still think an upgrade would help.
As far as Holliday goes, I wasn't impressed with him last preseason and I think the best thing that could gave happened to him was to get injured. I think he hesitated too much and looked a little scared. I wouldn't bank on him being a big contributor this year, but I hope I'm wrong.
Our offense isn't based on deep threats like Desean Jackson. It's possession, precision, blocking. You can upgrade the speed of WR2 and remove Walter, but there are very few other WRs in the league who do the things he does AND upgrade that speed.
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We don't have a competent GM that knows how to pull off a deal on a marquee player of Aso's caliber that has several suitors. It's that simple.
This could possibly be true. Certainly, I can offer no evidence to the contrary. Personally, I don't think that is a very important quality in an NFL GM. I'll take a GM that can draft well and has an eye for talent, rather than one whose greatest asset is getting the guy that everyone agrees is the best player at his position.

Unfortunately, Smith's draft record is mixed and a number of the team's personnel decisions have been questionable to say the least. So, even though I still have some hope, I can't make a strong argument that Rick Smith is a very competent GM. And, I'm terrified the Texans are going to royally screw in free agency over the next ten days. I have hope, but zero confidence that they have properly prepared for the strange set of circumstances that the lockout has created.
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Ok. So I will expect the worst and hope for the best.
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First off, we can do better at the #2 WR position. I like Walter, but he's not a huge threat and lacks that little bit of extra speed. I think he's clutch, but I still think an upgrade would help.
As far as Holliday goes, I wasn't impressed with him last preseason and I think the best thing that could gave happened to him was to get injured. I think he hesitated too much and looked a little scared. I wouldn't bank on him being a big contributor this year, but I hope I'm wrong.
OK. You addressed two out of five positions you listed. We've had a top 4 passing O the last 3 seasons and you want to deep six Aso to improve that. What??? Are you nucking futs??? KR and PR guys are usually not huge FA signings. So tell me again about all the holes we need to fix? If we had Aso last season, we're talking our 2nd trip to the playoffs and winning the SB. Without Aso this season, we're talking about the '12 season as "our year". I'm sick of next year being "our year".
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OK. You addressed two out of five positions you listed. We've had a top 4 passing O the last 3 seasons and you want to deep six Aso to improve that. What??? Are you nucking futs??? KR and PR guys are usually not huge FA signings. So tell me again about all the holes we need to fix? If we had Aso last season, we're talking our 2nd trip to the playoffs and winning the SB. Without Aso this season, we're talking about the '12 season as "our year". I'm sick of next year being "our year".
I don't know if frank bush would have known what to do if he had aso
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It would've been nice to find out.
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Even Aso can't overcome playing back ten yards from the line
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Honestly, I'm not sure I'd trade our offense for any other team's. No one has a perfect roster.
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Even Aso can't overcome playing back ten yards from the line
Maybe Aso would've freaked out the secondary like Pollard did by "disguising" his coverage. Or maybe he would've done what ge does best and coaches be damned. Pull it off and the coaches can;t ***** too much.
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