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Old 07-26-2011   #221
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Thing we know about Aso; if he remained with Oakland his salary this season $17m. He or his agent Condon has allegedly said he wants $45m up front. While any player can be hurt any play, all are evaluated on history; Nnamdi's is good. In a five year contract, he would enter his fifth year having turned 35 that July.

We can offer 5 year $80m with $25m bonus (just over DRs deal with Falcons) which divided over contract is $5m year. $80m- $25= $55m divided over 5 years. The salary can be paid anyway the Texans and Nnamdi agree. So $25m upfront + $15m (first year)= $40m guaranteed first year and a $20m cap hit [$15 + $5)(where Mario's cap is allegedly). Structure second and third years @ $7m + $5m (bonus) for $12m cap hit each year. This leaves $26m last two years paid as agreed on. Of course each of us including Smith can move numbers to fit Texans need. Usually, a contract is back loaded as player of ASO age would be cut last year or two with only dead money left. ASO should earn all 5 years.
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Not sure about SB contender exactly, but signing Nnamdi will put us at in the playoffs and I'd say we'd be prime for a solid-deep playoff showing.
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I know I started " Would you trade Mario if we could get Nnambi" thread but as i stated lated in that post I don't think using 15-20% of your cap on any player is a smart thing to do, especially for the Texans who have so many needs. I think we are hamstrung with Mario"s cap number now. Look at the great teams New England, Green Bay they don't pay big money to players. Football is definitely a TEAM game and you need quality players not just a couple of superstars. The Texans problem is they don't evaluate talent well and then they don't utilize what talent they do have. The front office and coaching for the Texan's has basically ****** from the beginning.
Or you ask you players like AJ, Schaub, Demeco and Mario to re-structure their existing contracts to lower their cap hits as the Raiders have done for years. Mario is only one I feel may not re-structure but to move Texans to a top 5 possible SB contender?
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Not sure about SB contender exactly, but signing Nnamdi will put us at in the playoffs and I'd say we'd be prime for a solid-deep playoff showing.
I think we'd win the division and have a great chance to play with any team in the playoffs. In that sense, I do think we would be a Super Bowl contender. With that said, I think the biggest thing hurting us would be our lack of experience in playoff games or big games period.

Honest question here: How many of our starters have played in a single playoff game? I think Antonio Smith is the only one. That's what would hurt us when we're playing the Steelers or Patriots come crunch time.
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ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that free agent Nnamdi Asomugha may be willing to "take a little less money" to sign with a playoff contender.
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Sweet! This would give us more room to sign some other play....errr...oh...yeah....that last part.
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I think we'd win the division and have a great chance to play with any team in the playoffs. In that sense, I do think we would be a Super Bowl contender. With that said, I think the biggest thing hurting us would be our lack of experience in playoff games or big games period.

Honest question here: How many of our starters have played in a single playoff game? I think Antonio Smith is the only one. That's what would hurt us when we're playing the Steelers or Patriots come crunch time.
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as i stated lated in that post I don't think using 15-20% of your cap on any player is a smart thing to do.
I think I read somewhere that Peyton Manning and Dwight Freeney comprise about 33% of the Colts cap. But then again, that's freaking Manning and Freeney. LOL
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I think we'd win the division and have a great chance to play with any team in the playoffs. In that sense, I do think we would be a Super Bowl contender. With that said, I think the biggest thing hurting us would be our lack of experience in playoff games or big games period.

Honest question here: How many of our starters have played in a single playoff game? I think Antonio Smith is the only one. That's what would hurt us when we're playing the Steelers or Patriots come crunch time.
Ehh, that could matter.....or maybe not. Not sure. I feel like all that stuff is circumstantial.
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How is shutting Off a portion of a teams offense a bad thing?
How is comprehension a bad thing? Really! Where did I argue that Nnambi isn't a good CB and that his play would not make the team better. I am speaking about the allocation of resources. My point is that I believe there are more effective ways to spend our limited resources... Of course his presence would help the secondary play and of course shutting down a WR is helpful for a defense.
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How is comprehension a bad thing? Really! Where did I argue that Nnambi isn't a good CB and that his play would not make the team better. I am speaking about the allocation of resources. My point is that I believe there are more effective ways to spend our limited resources... Of course his presence would help the secondary play and of course shutting down a WR is helpful for a defense.
No. You were talking about how teams would scheme against him. That in itself is bogus, because qb's would still go after him. Not as much as the second or third corner but he would get his fair share of throws at him.

Also, even if he has completely shut down a receiver how is that not beneficial to the team as a whole?

Why allocate resources that way when you have a player that is interested in you that would elevate the play of the entire defense?

You would rather bank on getting two or three solid players rather than getting one franchise guy?

When your plan backfires and one or two of the guys you are targeting goes elsewhere then what? Just pick from the leftovers.

That makes no sense to me. You have the top rated player at his position, and it's a position we sorely need and you want to pass him over for Eric weddle and tier 3 corner?

If the money is not outrageous you stretch your pockets a bit and go for the stars. And you know the corny saying. . If you miss then you Langdon the moon.

Allocating resources is just code for being good in a few places while not being great at any. We have a lot of good on this team. It'd be nice to have some greatness.
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No. You were talking about how teams would scheme against him. That in itself is bogus, because qb's would still go after him. Not as much as the second or third corner but he would get his fair share of throws at him.

Also, even if he has completely shut down a receiver how is that not beneficial to the team as a whole?

Why allocate resources that way when you have a player that is interested in you that would elevate the play of the entire defense?

You would rather bank on getting two or three solid players rather than getting one franchise guy?

When your plan backfires and one or two of the guys you are targeting goes elsewhere then what? Just pick from the leftovers.

That makes no sense to me. You have the top rated player at his position, and it's a position we sorely need and you want to pass him over for Eric weddle and tier 3 corner?

If the money is not outrageous you stretch your pockets a bit and go for the stars. And you know the corny saying. . If you miss then you Langdon the moon.

Allocating resources is just code for being good in a few places while not being great at any. We have a lot of good on this team. It'd be nice to have some greatness.
This was one hell of a post.

And as far as just picking over the leftovers, well that is what the Texans have done pretty much every season in free agency since their existence.
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Not even going to hope, worry, or whatever until Friday... til then, everything is just speculation.. much like the lockout.. until its done, nothing means much.
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No. You were talking about how teams would scheme against him. That in itself is bogus, because qb's would still go after him. Not as much as the second or third corner but he would get his fair share of throws at him.

Also, even if he has completely shut down a receiver how is that not beneficial to the team as a whole?

Why allocate resources that way when you have a player that is interested in you that would elevate the play of the entire defense?

You would rather bank on getting two or three solid players rather than getting one franchise guy?

When your plan backfires and one or two of the guys you are targeting goes elsewhere then what? Just pick from the leftovers. That makes no sense to me. You have the top rated player at his position, and it's a position we sorely need and you want to pass him over for Eric weddle and tier 3 corner?

If the money is not outrageous you stretch your pockets a bit and go for the stars. And you know the corny saying. . If you miss then you Langdon the moon.

Allocating resources is just code for being good in a few places while not being great at any. We have a lot of good on this team. It'd be nice to have some greatness.
This is what some are forgetting in comparing 2-3 players to Aso. You have no guarantee we could sign all of the others in any comparison. If you get Nnamdi, he is in the bag, if you sign Weddle for example, we still have to sign another CB.
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It's funny that now all of a sudden with the lockout over.. all this Nnamdi talk going on.. I don't recall reading much of it the last few months, but the "talk" that he is high on the Texans list and that "he" might come here has sure seemed to get ya'lls panties wet...

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It's funny that now all of a sudden with the lockout over.. all this Nnambi talk going on.. I don't recall reading much of it the last few months, but the "talk" that he is high on the Texans list and that "he" might come here has sure seemed to get ya'lls panties wet...

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