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Old 07-26-2011   #121
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If this gets done I can't imagine what im going to do. Just imagine guys. Peyton will never be able to throw to reggie wayne again!
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If this gets done I can't imagine what im going to do. Just imagine guys. Peyton will never be able to throw to reggie wayne again!
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If this gets done I can't imagine what im going to do. Just imagine guys. Peyton will never be able to throw to reggie wayne again!

I do not want them to outbid everyone for Nnambi! No way. We should avoid these sweepstakes and get a CB for half the money, that is 2 or 3 years younger, and not already preparing for his life after football!
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I do not want them to outbid everyone for Nnambi! No way. We should avoid these sweepstakes and get a CB for half the money, that is 2 or 3 years younger, and not already preparing for his life after football!
As much as I would like Aso, I agree that no player is worth "breaking the bank" for unless he's a proven pro-bowl quarterback in his prime...And other than a once-in-a-decade chance, how often does that happen?

Most of these unbelievably expensive free agents usually fall well short of their pay more often than not.
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I do not want them to outbid everyone for Nnambi! No way. We should avoid these sweepstakes and get a CB for half the money, that is 2 or 3 years younger, and not already preparing for his life after football!
Ordinarily I would agree with you. I think in this case Nnamdi is a must sign. This is one case that a free agent is worth what he gets. To this defense (especially with Phillips defense) the abilty to shut down half the field is incredible. He changes the entire game with one signing and he does it for 3-5 years.

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I do not want them to outbid everyone for Nnambi! No way. We should avoid these sweepstakes and get a CB for half the money, that is 2 or 3 years younger, and not already preparing for his life after football!
What CB is going to even be near his level that only wants half? I'm genuinely curious on this.
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I agree we should not spend all our money on Nnamdi like I said in a different thread and get other players but I mean if we get Nnamdi then how can you be dissapointed? Its pretty much like getting another Andre but for the defense
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The Texans need to win THIS YEAR.They need to make the moves that makes them competitive NOW. We're all tired of waiting for "next year" and the best WR in the NFL isn't getting any younger. The time is now!
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What CB is going to even be near his level that only wants half? I'm genuinely curious on this.
This free agent market is flooded, particularly at the CB position. I'm not sure which players will be the best bargains, only that the principles of supply and demand will ensure that some will be. We have never seen a market this loaded with young talent in the salary cap era. Here are some names for you:

Johnathan Joseph
Brent Grimes
Antonio Cromartie
Brandon Carr
Josh Wilson
Chris Carr
Richard Marshall
Kelly Jennings
Chris Houston
Eric Wright
Fabian Washington


and that list excludes the 30 and 31 year old FAs that will also be in market:

Drayton Florence
Carlos Rogers
Ike Taylor
Phillip Buchanan


I'm not saying that all those guys are great players. But, some are/will be very good and smart teams will have the opportunity to assess which ones will have the best value as the NFL moves through this truncated free agent process.
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The Texans need to win THIS YEAR.They need to make the moves that makes them competitive NOW. We're all tired of waiting for "next year" and the best WR in the NFL isn't getting any younger. The time is now!
agree w/stemp. we owe this to Andre Johnson too as well as the fans
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I do not want them to outbid everyone for Nnambi! No way. We should avoid these sweepstakes and get a CB for half the money, that is 2 or 3 years younger, and not already preparing for his life after football!
Yes, how DARE we actually make a bold move to become competitive!

We know you're fine with 6-10 and giving Gary and Rick a lifetime contract. Some of us, however, want a little bit more.
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I'm sorry, but anything but the signing of Aso won't cut it for me, and no amount of reasoning will pacify me. I don't want a second tier player, it's time for this front office to step up and deliver.
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I agree we should not spend all our money on Nnamdi like I said in a different thread and get other players but I mean if we get Nnamdi then how can you be dissapointed? Its pretty much like getting another Andre but for the defense
There's a difference. Offensively, the Texans can scheme in a way that ensures Andre will be involved in the game and have an opportunity to make a lot of plays.

An opposing team, on a passing down, will often have 5 eligible receivers running routes. Nnambi will only be covering one of those five. Good offenses can scheme and work an offense in a way that minimizes the impact Nnambi will make. After all, consider how bad the Raiders defense has been the past four years while Nnambi has been, dominant, healthy, and in his prime.
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I do not want them to outbid everyone for Nnambi! No way. We should avoid these sweepstakes and get a CB for half the money, that is 2 or 3 years younger, and not already preparing for his life after football!
You are so lost sometimes. He's not old, he's not going to break the bank, and how many times have we gone out and signed a cornerback who was half the price of someone like Aso? How's that worked out so far?

I don't understand the reluctance to go out and get the best possible solution to one of our biggest problems over the last decade. A great player is on the market at a position we need and we have the chance to get him for money. Not picks, not players, just money. What is wrong with Texans fans that they can't imagine a reality where the team pays big money for the closest thing to a free agent sure thing in memory? Someone is going to sign him and that team will still be able to field a roster of players at least as good as ours I promise you. That team will have money to sign rookie contracts and they'll be able to pick up street free agents during the season to fill holes. He'll be expensive but he isn't going to render your team incapable of operating.

In 3-4 years his contract will look like a bargain compared to what the top free agent CB costs (whoever that may be).
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As much as I would like Aso, I agree that no player is worth "breaking the bank" for unless he's a proven pro-bowl quarterback in his prime...And other than a once-in-a-decade chance, how often does that happen?

Most of these unbelievably expensive free agents usually fall well short of their pay more often than not.
So a QB is worth breaking the bank for but the ability to take half the field away from that same QB is not worth it?

What if your secondary is absolutely terrible and you could go from the 30th secondary in the league to instantly an average secondary? This is the one player that you can probably add 3-5 wins to your total instantly. Seriously. Without any other changes to our defense last year, add Nnamdi and you are talking about a team that wins 9-11 games.

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This free agent market is flooded, particularly at the CB position. I'm not sure which players will be the best bargains, only that the principles of supply and demand will ensure that some will be. We have never seen a market this loaded with young talent in the salary cap era. Here are some names for you:

Johnathan Joseph
Brent Grimes
Antonio Cromartie
Brandon Carr
Josh Wilson
Chris Carr
Richard Marshall
Kelly Jennings
Chris Houston
Eric Wright
Fabian Washington


and that list excludes the 30 and 31 year old FAs that will also be in market:

Drayton Florence
Carlos Rogers
Ike Taylor
Phillip Buchanan


I'm not saying that all those guys are great players. But, some are/will be very good and smart teams will have the opportunity to assess which ones will have the best value as the NFL moves through this truncated free agent process.
You tell me which of those guys are going to be anywhere near Nnamdi in talent, and will only want half. None of the guys on either of those lists qualify that I can see.
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This free agent market is flooded, particularly at the CB position. I'm not sure which players will be the best bargains, only that the principles of supply and demand will ensure that some will be. We have never seen a market this loaded with young talent in the salary cap era. Here are some names for you:

Johnathan Joseph
Brent Grimes
Antonio Cromartie
Brandon Carr
Josh Wilson
Chris Carr
Richard Marshall
Kelly Jennings
Chris Houston
Eric Wright
Fabian Washington


and that list excludes the 30 and 31 year old FAs that will also be in market:

Drayton Florence
Carlos Rogers
Ike Taylor
Phillip Buchanan


I'm not saying that all those guys are great players. But, some are/will be very good and smart teams will have the opportunity to assess which ones will have the best value as the NFL moves through this truncated free agent process.

Don't you ever get sick of watching the Texans sift through the bargain bin looking for "the best bargain" and trying to show the world how smart they are? After ten years of this haven't you figured out that the Texans aren't exactly good at this (Arian Foster's presence on the team notwithstanding)
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We know you're fine with 6-10 and giving Gary and Rick a lifetime contract. Some of us, however, want a little bit more.
I would like to see our finite resources used most efficiently. I have no problem with fans believing that paying for Nnambi is the best utilization of those resources. I happen to disagree. What I find intellectually insulting and immature, is the idea that the ONLY way the Texans can show they are serious about improving the team and winning this off-season is to sign Nnambi. That is such a silly straw man that it seems pointless to even discuss football with people that think that way.
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Mario will cover him, hehehehehe.
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