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Old 05-01-2011   #21
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And offensive coordinator.

#152nd pick – TJ Yates, North Carolina, QB, 6030 219
QB’s are a difficult evaluation but since we have one of the best in Gary Kubiak who is to say he’s wrong taking a QB in the 5th rd.? West Coast style, reads progressions as Texans teach, four full years of starting experience under his belt, so he maybe more NFL ready than most. A couple things I’ve noticed that do remind me of Schaub that I don’t really care for is he holds the ball too long, then tries to force it or take unnecessary hits/sacks, not the most mobile QB either, guess that shouldn’t surprise. Grade

Why is Kubiak so good picking QB's??? He said Carr could do it. WRONG
Then he picked a PAID big money for Orvlosky. Rated to 10 most overpaid in NFL. Grossman beat him out. Why is Kubiak the best in picking QBs.
Carr was damaged goods, he tried, soon after he moved on. No question the extension was a mistake, Gary has made a few of those but so has everybody (just not million dollar ones right?). Orvosky was pulled off the scrape heap, as was Grossman, as was Sage, as was Leinart, these are tough turnarounds some work then some don't. Schaub was a better prospect to begin with & I would say he's developed nicely. How many teams can say that? I think Gary is pretty well respected around the league for his QB development as well as his offensive coordinator abilities. The only question we should still have is if he has the ability to make it as a Head Coach?
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Orvosky was pulled off the scrape heap...
Orlovsky was given a 3 year $9 million contract. That's one hellava scrap heap.

Kubiak did identify and go after Schaub. And the Rosenfels signing was solid. Gary's evaluation of Carr was a miss, but he was not alone in the league in that assessment. Orlovsky looks like a miss, but he hasn't been needed thus far. Who knows about Leinart. I feel that giving Kubiak a mid round pick for a developmental QB was a good move for the organization, long term.
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Orlovsky was given a 3 year $9 million contract. That's one hellava scrap heap.
Orlovsky was lucky to get another chance after Detroit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhijWrjy8Uo
He was given what was considered the league average for a back-up QB, then took a pay cut before last season. Safe to say he has underperformed expectations so it was determined to spend a mid round pick on position. Interesting side note on RotoWorld player page http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3227/dan-orlovsky
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Orlovsky held off Matt Leinart all season to be Matt Schaub's primary clipboard holder, but nearly $3 million may be too pricey for a backup QB considered league average in that role, at best. Assuming they fill out their extensive need areas on defense, it wouldn't be a bad idea for the Texans to invest a mid-round pick on a quarterback. Matt Schaub turns 30 this June. Feb 8, 11:50 AM
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I just tried cherry picking the draft for the top three spots. Honestly, I am hard pressed to come up with anything that would have a bigger impact next year on the Texans new 3-4 defense.

Watt / Reed / Harris is a better haul than anything that I could come up with. Plus it was done without the 20/20 hindsight.

Quinn / Paea / Harris
Amukamara (yeesh) / Bowers / Martez Wilson
Quinn / Bowers / Houston

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Grade: Solid A

I love this draft. Absolutely LOVE. I expect it to rival 2006.

J.J. Watt is being undervalued due to the amount of 5 tech's in the draft. This is a very valuable and highly sought after position for 3-4 defenses. J.J. Watt has all the tools including work ethic, motivation and heart required to be a solid football player. Might seem like a bit of a luxury pick to a team with Antonio Smith and Mario Williams already on the roster but I dont think that either will be full time ends, and with Smith's attitude towards the change you can never be certain that he wont quit on the team and Wade Smith.

Brooks Reed has a relentless motor and unquenchable thirst for sacking the quarterback. Will be a tough transition as it is for all DE's with their hand in the dirt to rush standing up, but Reeds athleticism should make it possible. A senior who had a very good showing at the senior bowl back in February, Reed seems very workman like and coachable.

Brandon Harris. Texans steal of the draft. Harris is a coaches son who has been working towards this his entire life. Has the skills and swagger to add to an already Hurricane loaded roster. Only costing the team a 5th, a deal you cannot pass up.

Trading down in the 4th, picking up a 5th, and turning a 6th into a 5th as well, and still getting a quality corner in Rashad Carmichael. Another sub 5'11" CB that has plently of speed and ability. Rick Smith and co generally strike gold in the 4th, so I am expecting a-lot from this kid.

Not sure about Shiloh Keo. They say he is coachable. A do everything kind of player. A diamond in the rough. Well it doesnt get more rough than an Idaho Vandal. I am just glad we got some safety help.

T.J. Yates. Prototypical stand in the pocket, tall, knows alot about how the Texans run their offense. Would have liked Powe or another defender here, but I am ok with this if it brings a solid backup to Houston, or provides a trade chip in the future.

Derek Newton from Arkansas State seems like good value in the 7th. Makes me wonder if they are worried about losing their swing tackle RB.

Cheta Ozougwu. Not surprised they are adding depth to their pass rush specialists. A local Rice kid. What else can I say? Mr. Irrelevant.
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In 2006 the Texans owned the first pick & each round thereafter including back to back picks top of the 3rd. Flash forward to 2011 Texans selected 11th then rotated with other 6-10 teams. So to be able to even be mentioned in the same breath as 2006 is quite an accomplishment.
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