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View Poll Results: Thoughts on the pick
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I dislike the pick 2 3.17%
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Old 04-30-2011   #21
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Default Re: Rasdad Carmichael- What do you think?

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Thanks for answering that, everything I saw on him was above 4.5 on the 40

Not a bad pick just everything past the 3rd round you have your fingers crossed on them. A bit surprised they went defense again and they are definitely setting up competition for the secondary, I'm just hoping they don't give up on bring in some vets to help school all these kids.

By the way, whenever your 40 time gets cut by over .1 seconds and almost .2, you have to check to see who's holding the timer especially when its the schools pro day.
true but of the little video i've seen on this kid, he looks like he's closer to the 4.39 than the 4.5 he was timed at at the NFL combine...

here's a short read with video i found breaking down his technique..he looks decent.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...technique.html
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

On the fence because I would have liked another position. His highlights look more impressive than BH's. He seems to be quicker and at least in his highlights looked like he had a nose for the ball. He also seems more physical and makes plays. Again could be wrong I have only seen highlights, but BH's highlights were average at best, this guy made plays.
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

I said we should throw the whole draft at secondary players.

Outside of the two d-lineman/LB guys, we're doing just that. And yet the whole draft thus far has been DEFENSE for us...which is juuuust freaking fine with me.

I think Bob McNair ORDERED that we flood the first several rounds with defense picks. Otherwise, the measure of restraint shown by Smithiak (to give Wade each pick four times in a row) is truly amazing.

Out of all these picks we've had thus far, it's been defense every time. Even if McNair didn't mandate it, the only other logical conclusion is that Gary Kubiak knows he's got his toys on offense and it's defense that will sink his future here if he doesn't do something now.

Regardless, I'm at peace. More than I have been in a long time. We're stocking the pantry with what we need, IMO. Can't wait to see how these guys do.
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

Seems Like he has more consistently run in the 4.3s than the 4.5s. Supposedly ran a 4.26 in 2008.

http://www.hokiesports.com/football/...el_rashad.html
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

Both LZ and Gooselin had him inside the top 90 on theircTop 100 boards. I like the pick just from a value aspect. Add to that he played at V Tech which means he can play special teams.

I like the pick.
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

Watching him for two full seasons I can say he is a good prospect in the 5th round. His junior year was much better than his senior and was evaluated to be a second rounder at the beginning but then dropped because of how well his counter part played this year.

Just a solid corner and could add good depth.
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

He is very similar to Kareem Jackson imo. Hopefully our new DB coach can train him and correct KJ's errors. We need to salvage that first round pick if he has not been "David Carr'd".
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this is the best draft the texans have had IMO, besides 06
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

I wonder if some of these CBs are being chosen with the mindset that if they don't work out as a CB, they may be plugged in as a S. Don't know if I would agree with an approach like this, especially when Joseph is looking for twin type of safeties.
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I wonder if some of these CBs are being chosen with the mindset that if they don't work out as a CB, they may be plugged in as a S. Don't know if I would agree with an approach like this, especially when Joseph is looking for twin type of safeties.
Well if your looking for good coverage safeties, converting CB is not the worst idea.
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I wonder if some of these CBs are being chosen with the mindset that if they don't work out as a CB, they may be plugged in as a S. Don't know if I would agree with an approach like this, especially when Joseph is looking for twin type of safeties.
This is really what I'm thinking.

We're going to have a shift in defensive philosophy, don't be surprised if they want a guy back there with a lot of range and good ball skills and aren't really worried about whether he's a CB or a FS or a SS.
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Run 4 CB back there if it means we are going to get some picks.

I just want interceptions and PBU.

I don't want big plays because of bad coverage.

If that means playing 4 5'9" 180lb CBs I am ok with it.

Let the front 7 stop the run.
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I've read where, some feel that in order to be able not to be a run D liability, he will need to put on some significant weight and bulk to transition into the NFL. In fact, I read this about our other secondary pics. It doesn't tend to bother me with most other positions, but with secondary and WRs, I tend to wonder what effect this will have other aspects of their performance.
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Im wondering if this guy turns out to be the other safety .....
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

That`s what I hope - that they see a safety in him... he seems to be a ball hawk, so he could at least provide good depth there.

We have quite some CBs already - and everyone agrees that we need a veteran. So the vet and either KJax or Allen should start, with the other playing nickel. Brandon Harris can be the primary backup, with either McCain or McManis as the other. That should be enough, with maybe Molden coming back as well...
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I've read where, some feel that in order to be able not to be a run D liability, he will need to put on some significant weight and bulk to transition into the NFL. In fact, I read this about our other secondary pics. It doesn't tend to bother me with most other positions, but with secondary and WRs, I tend to wonder what effect this will have other aspects of their performance.
I'm not too worried about how good CB's play the run unless we have ideas of moving them to safety. Carmichael and Harris both seem a tad on the small side to be safeties and if the whole Quinn to FS is to be believed you probably don't want guys that small manning the SS position. Harris, Keo and Carmichael all seem like guys who they feel are going to be versatile ST players as well.
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Default Re: Rashad Carmichael- What do you think?

I've gotta go with the "let the front 7 stop the run" crowd. If we're worried about CB's stopping the run, we have other issues to address. IMO, they'll do much better tackling with some back to basics coaching. I hope and pray our d coaches take that approach and stress fundamentals like tackling through the ball carrier and wrapping up.
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I've gotta go with the "let the front 7 stop the run" crowd. If we're worried about CB's stopping the run, we have other issues to address. IMO, they'll do much better tackling with some back to basics coaching. I hope and pray our d coaches take that approach and stress fundamentals like tackling through the ball carrier and wrapping up.
I dont think anyone has a concern with tackling from a corner. My concern is if he gets moved to FS or SS. Safeties are the last line of defense, they need to be sure tacklers.
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Carmichael isn't the best tackler so I could see him backing up Quinn at FS.


With a future front 7 of:

Watt- *DT* - Mario

Reed - Cushing - Ryans - Barwin

that is a lot of size and I sure hope our run D will be stifling so we can afford to have some smaller ball-hawks in the secondary.
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