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Old 04-28-2011   #61
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I don't give a two shits if he never gets a single sack so long as he collapses the pocket and gets lots of pressure on the QB on a consistant basis.
Yeah no crap. I guess Tkiss never heard of a guy that took over the majority of the sacks for the Dallas Cowboys by the name of Demarcus Ware.
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Not sure I understand what your saying.
He is saying sacks aren't everything when playing a 3-4 DE. Don't need sacks as a 3-4 DE to be dominate, just need to be dominate period and Watt can be that type of player. Defiantly has the motor and desire to do so.
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Low-ceiling, safe-pick that can contribute tomorrow. KJack V.2?
J.J. Watt is one of the best athletes in the entire draft. How the heck does he have a "low ceiling"?

I love the pick. Now we need to back up that back 7 in round 2.
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He is saying sacks aren't everything when playing a 3-4 DE. Don't need sacks as a 3-4 DE to be dominate, just need to be dominate period and Watt can be that type of player. Defiantly has the motor and desire to do so.
This I understand very well.
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OK, I wasn't all that familiar with him, read up, watched some highlights, he looks pretty good.
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The only learning Amobi will be doing from Cushing and Watt will be from watching the Texans on TV. His ass is done in H-Town.
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Good strong pick. Not what I expected because I thought we'd be cool with Mario and Smith as our ends. But this kid's a beast.

I don't hate this pick.

I would have preferred Quin but I understand the reasons behind not taking him.
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J.J. Watt is one of the best athletes in the entire draft. How the heck does he have a "low ceiling"?

I love the pick. Now we need to back up that back 7 in round 2.
Wow, reading comprehension is non-existent with this one. Read the quote again goober.




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J.J. Watt is one of the best athletes in the entire draft. How the heck does he have a "low ceiling"?

I love the pick. Now we need to back up that back 7 in round 2.
People are just saying that because he is white. Same thing goes for Kerrigan and Reed. Their measurables are just as good as some of the so called elite athletes at their positions. Because they are white they get tagged as "high effort" players.

Watt was my second rated player on the DL. Kerrigan was number 2 at OLB (for our hybrid 3/4) ahead of Quin and Smith. Reed is 4th.
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We weren't a 3-4 D when the Mario pick was made. They had already announced conversion to 4-3.
I understand that. But that was the conversation.
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Not sure I understand what your saying.
I'm saying the value of a 3-4 DE is not #1 overall or #11 overall.
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Low-ceiling, safe-pick that can contribute tomorrow. KJack V.2?
How does he have a reading comprehension problem. Me thinks you have a writing comprehension problem.
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Well if ever have a game that comes down to your white players jumping over really tall boxes we are aces with Cushing and Watt..
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Since I started studying the draft, this is the first time the Texans have picked my guy.

Say bye bye to Mario Williams.
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Since I started studying the draft, this is the first time the Texans have picked my guy.

Say bye bye to Mario Williams.

I have been preaching this for awhile. Both Mario and Smith have both expressed concern about playing in a 3/4. I could see one or both of them pouting and causing problems if they dont get off to a good start. Smith is the more likely to stir the pot IMO.

Hell maybe one of them already has and that is why we drafted Watt. If we draft another 5 I guess that will answer that question.
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Since I started studying the draft, this is the first time the Texans have picked my guy.

Say bye bye to Mario Williams.
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He is saying sacks aren't everything when playing a 3-4 DE. Don't need sacks as a 3-4 DE to be dominate, just need to be dominate period and Watt can be that type of player. Defiantly has the motor and desire to do so.
Thank you, but no that is not at all what I am saying.

If we were playing in the 4-3 & we needed a pass rusher opposite Mario this would make sense.

This is one pick outside of the top ten. This should be an impact player. Most DEs hate converting to a 3-4, because DE is not an impact position.

People were concerned that Mario would be upset about switching to a 3-4. They are saying Antonio Smith is not happy about playing in a 3-4, even though he has no problem sliding inside in a 4-3.

4-3 DE, impact player. 3-4 DE...... not.

It's like Tackles wanting to play LT, not RT. Or corners wanting to play corner, & not safety.
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Thank you, but no that is not at all what I am saying.

If we were playing in the 4-3 & we needed a pass rusher opposite Mario this would make sense.

This is one pick outside of the top ten. This should be an impact player. Most DEs hate converting to a 3-4, because DE is not an impact position.

People were concerned that Mario would be upset about switching to a 3-4. They are saying Antonio Smith is not happy about playing in a 3-4, even though he has no problem sliding inside in a 4-3.

4-3 DE, impact player. 3-4 DE...... not.

It's like Tackles wanting to play LT, not RT. Or corners wanting to play corner, & not safety.
We play a 1 gap 3/4 where the DE's are expected to penetrate, not take up blocks like most 3/4's.
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