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Old 09-12-2005   #1
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Interesting read.

Similar problems with Couch, absolutely no offensive line.
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Funny the last guy said we should get Verba.
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Intresting, Couch was bad at reading defenses, too. Sounds familiar.
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I think they at least give Carr some credit. He is a good QB and if he had a chance to grow out there then maybe we wouldn't be where we are. We can't get a serious look at him or Palmer as the OC because we have no line to block for the QB. I say we figure out how we can shore up that line and then worry about the rest.
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The line is a reflection of Palmer and, as much as I have stood up for Carr, he has not shown that he is a "Good" quarterback.
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For anyone that doesn't want to wade through that crazy forum, here are the replies:

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"Don't worry as long as they don't hire Carmen Policy."

"I really don't think Palmer was the problem."

"I think Carr and Couch have the same problem and it's not Palmer. It's a bad O-line. Couch got beat up pretty bad and I think it affected his decision making."

"The Palmer era was a disaster. Busted picks, injuries, you name it. Hey look at the bright side, Couch is still avaialble!"

"It wasn't coaching that screwed up Couch. It was a piss poor O-line and his sense of entitlement. Couch put up good numbers with little talent around him, but he took such a beating over his first 3 years that he became useless. When Holcomb was brought in and Davis got a taste of what he could bring to the game, Couch's ego got the best of him. Plus, Couch was terrible at reading defenses. Chris Plamer isn't a bad coach, but he isn't all that great either. It's just gonna take time with Carr."

"problem was the o-line.... which coincidentally is your prob as well..."

"Not to mention that David Carr only has one competent receiver to throw to."
Personally, I think any QB you throw behind our current OL will get the same treatment that Carr gets. Unless it's Mike Vick, and then he'll just get 200+ yards running per game.
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