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Old 09-11-2005   #21
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"You cant take a great draft pick like DD and say "casserly got lucky". "


...a little luck is involved when you remember that DD was originally
drafted as a return man--was not even a starter at LSU
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Old 09-11-2005   #22
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down by 2 tds.

you punt on 4th and inches in the fourth quarter.

then punt again.



Please, someone, anyone give me a GOOD answer!

How many coaches in the NFL or High school even would have punt right there? What are you playing the game for if not to win.

I know there are some people that know football out there..........
Am I wrong?
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yah I know tsip.. but we still drafted him because we saw his potential and liked his attitude. No we didnt expect him to become our starting RB, but we saw he had the talent to play in the NFL, and he just turned out to be better than we expected.

Either way it was a great pick by Casserly.
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You cant take a great draft pick like DD and say "casserly got lucky". That just isnt fair to Cass. He made a great pick when he saw DDs talent.

That is not correct. Casserly picked Davis in the fourth round with the expectation that he would become a third down back and help our return game. Nobody in the Texans organization, least of all Charlie Casserly "saw DDs talent" and expected him to be our franchise back.

Casserly got lucky and the jury is still out as to how lucky he got. I didn't see Davis tearing it up today. Now we can go back and forth over whether it's because he's not the back or it's his lines fault but no way did Casserly pick him to be our starter.
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I agree. I hope this year is a total failure, so we can get rid of the whole coaching staff. I have said from year 1, that these guys are way too predictable and conservative to have any success with this team. It is ashame that they are wasting Carr's talent in handing off 75% of the time and throwing 3 yard dump passes. It is sickening to watch. I am a seson ticket holder and I love this team and never miss a game, but I hope they suck this year, so we can start fresh and we will suck as long as Capers is calling these high school plays.
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Why don't you go to the Pittsburgh board and post how much Roethlisberger sucks based on the average of his last five games? Oh wait... that's right... the preseason doesn't count.
Jeez David. Already dressed and on your laptop on the plane are ya? You're awful quick. Must be the concierge service. You SUCKED. SUCKED. In CAPITAL LETTERS....SUCKED. Trying to make excuses for that pathetic display simply makes you look like an ignorant fan, or Carr himself. Heck, even his Mother probably wants to disown him after that display.

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Well being a Buckeye fan this is hard to say after last night, but maybe the texans can luck out somehow and get Vince next year. Carr is a bad decision maker plain and simple. He stands around too long, throws into triple coverage 40 yards down field, and i dont know if he has ever thrown a ball away to avoid a sack.
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why did you take all that time to write this drivel? seriously.....


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*sigh*

why did you take all that time to write this drivel? seriously.. you should be spending more time reading what knowledgable fans have to say, not forming flawed opinions off of whatever snippets of information you catch here and there.

I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed.. but ill point out a few flaws i caught.

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First of all you CUT two of your leaders and arguably most productive players on the devensive side of the ball in J.Sharper and Aaron Glenn
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*It was time to move on. We had NO threats in our front seven last season. No one that the other team had to take special consideration of. Sharper is a good LB, but he was not, and is not, a great LB. He was above average, but thats about it.

Why release him? do you recall all of the TEs and slot receivers chewing up our defense last year? remember us not being able to stop ANYONE on 3rd downs? That was Sharper and Foreman. They were simply TOO SLOW and WEAK in coverage. We needed speed.. and we needed youth on defense.. so thats what we got.

As for us not getting anything for them.. well we tried to get something but no one was willing to pay..ANYTHING.. so we had to release them. Why continue to hold onto a player that isnt producing, simply because you feel he may be worth something to someone? thank god we were more interested in WINNING than making a good looking trade for Sharper and Glenn.

Oh.. and the same goes for Glenn. Above average.. but he is in the decline. Hes old.. we needed someone to replace him very soon. We had the opportunity to get that player..and so we did. Glenn was given a choice.. he chose to leave. End of story.
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First the O-Line and a particular weakness at LT where we had S.Wand last season and now have V.Riley who has played better than Wand ..... While Riley has played decent and is an upgrade he isnt the cornerstone player needed to protect Carr's blindside
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*why? becuase we didnt draft him in the first round? Because his name isnt Orlando Pace? Have you seen Carr getting too much pressure? have you seen Carr getting sacked? I havent.. so what exactly is your arguement?
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Carr will likely lead the league again in times sacked
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*yah i know.. and we will probably all die too. And a comet will hit houston. and the bubonic plague will spread across america. and the oceans will overflow and god will point and laugh at us. wow it sucks to be alive.
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Many on this board including myself have said the Texans lack a multi-dimensional TE
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*The steelers have been playing without a quality TE since the early 90s. They seem to have gotten by just fine. Matter of fact.. ALOT of teams in the NFL seem to get by just fine without a superstar TE. A TE is not essential to a good offense.
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At the Skill positions its Carr , A.J , D.D. and a buncha no-bodies
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*why? cause you havent seen their name mentioned on Sportscenter? We have a VERY talented group of young WRs. We are going to have a very hard time picking which ones to keep and who to cut.
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While on the subject of the skill positions ..... SOMEONE PLEASE CUT T.HOLLINGS , we have seen ENOUGH !! Cut your losses and keep someone who will make good use of a roster spot
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*I agree.

So.. there are your flames.

You sure are singing a different tune now.....you should be spending more time reading what knowledgable fans have to say, not forming flawed opinions off of whatever snippets of information you catch here and there.

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down by 2 tds.

you punt on 4th and inches in the fourth quarter.

then punt again.



Please, someone, anyone give me a GOOD answer!

How many coaches in the NFL or High school even would have punt right there? What are you playing the game for if not to win.

I know there are some people that know football out there..........
Am I wrong?

He ran up the white flag. They were tring to save the equipement.
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Well being a Buckeye fan this is hard to say after last night, but maybe the texans can luck out somehow and get Vince next year. Carr is a bad decision maker plain and simple. He stands around too long, throws into triple coverage 40 yards down field, and i dont know if he has ever thrown a ball away to avoid a sack.
Vincent Young isn't going anywhere. Why would you leave heaven ?
Great game BTW. I hope you hold #3, ND knocks off USC and we get to do that again in January. Great game. I think all Carr needs is a decent line. If the mental damage isn't already too severe, I believe he will come back. Saw the Oilers ruin Lynn Dickey( SP?). You never know.
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I agree. I hope this year is a total failure, so we can get rid of the whole coaching staff. I have said from year 1, that these guys are way too predictable and conservative to have any success with this team. It is ashame that they are wasting Carr's talent in handing off 75% of the time and throwing 3 yard dump passes. It is sickening to watch. I am a seson ticket holder and I love this team and never miss a game, but I hope they suck this year, so we can start fresh and we will suck as long as Capers is calling these high school plays.

Its a sad day when season ticket holders would rather lose a few games to rid themselves of a HORRIBLE coaching staff ... Maybe Mcnair will fire the coaches and the WHOLE O-line while he's at it.
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the "j/k"'s dont take away from the fact that you are trying real hard to "get me back"

I am not singing a different tune. I still agree with everything I said in that post, except maybe the part about our Oline playing better. They looked better in Preseason, but it was the same old song and dance today.
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To me the D played their hearts out and mainly just gave up field goals.. The offense stinks.. Carr is still scared and he locks onto one receiver and then when that receiver is covered he dumps it to DD .. I saw nothing new from Carr. We honestly don't know how to spread the ball around consistantly.

It is painful to watch this team at this time


Yes the defense basically gave up field goals, but you are right. No pass rush again.
Buffalos defense has a tendency to make offenses look horrible
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that's hilarious. I'm the one who brought that to Vinny's attention. Guess the brain lapses aren't limited to the team today.
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the "j/k"'s dont take away from the fact that you are trying real hard to "get me back"

I am not singing a different tune. I still agree with everything I said in that post, except maybe the part about our Oline playing better. They looked better in Preseason, but it was the same old song and dance today.


It has nothing to do with getting you back .... just pointing out the fact that just because someone has a different opinion than you do doesnt make them any less knoledgable a fan as you put it... Differences of opinion are expected and encouraged ..... ....and yeah , they sucked pretty bad today .
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