im done with schaub

[BullNation4Life]

Originally Posted by TexCanada

Schaub really made me angry when he cried about that "hands to the head" non-call. There was nothing there at all. I was watching the game with my buddy who is an Eagles fan and I was seriously embarrassed after that play. If you don't want to get touched, don't play the game.

The second time there was very little contact but the first time Cole came with a hard fore arm to the head and the ref just stood there. That is suppose to be a 15 yard penalty every time and it hasn't been getting called league wide....

Saw the same this happen to Manning against NE

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by Mr. Texan

schaub makes mistakes but...

schaub is not brady
schaub is not manning
schaub is not bress
schaub is not rivers.

he is a solid qb who needs a running game and a good defense to be successful.

if we even had a DECENT defense the texans would be leading the afc south and this thread wouldn't even be here

I think this is just true. Schaub has limitations that can be schemed around but he's not going to carry anybody on his shoulders. He does a lot with not much in the way of tools. He doesn't have a strong arm. He isn't particularly accurate, and he's certainly not mobile. He isn't (consistently) clutch and makes bad decisions under pressure.

If you can protect him, provide him with a running game, and have a defense that can hold their own then Schaub won't kill you but if you can't do that or don't have those things (or won't use them from time to time for no particular reason other than that you're the smartest coach in the room) then he can be a liability at times.

We have a lousy defense so we're done from the get-go regardless of all of that. "Least of our problems" is a good description of Matt Schaub. If our biggest real problem was rectified then Schaub's maddening play would be a just a minor irritant.

[BullNation4Life]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

It's not about him getting hit violently. It's about consistency. If his jersey said Manning/Brees/Brady, you bet your ****ing sweet ass they call it.

against NE, Manning didn't get the call when he got hit which is why it is very inconsistent

[97roc]

Originally Posted by fiasco west

Bingo.

If you want to get rid of your QB you better be making an improvement. Or else you risk the team completely sucking again...remember David Carr?

Matt is not the problem, Football is a team game and Matt would look much better if the defense could prevent teams from scoring every once in a while.

Yahtzee... There are far more trades made for or draft picks spent on other position needs other than QB.

[Mr. White]

Originally Posted by BullNation4Life

Trent Dilfer also had THE BEST DEFENSE in 2000 and I believe the NFL leading rusher in Jamal Lewis that year. He didn't have to do anything....

He already has the NFL's leading rusher. His defense is nowhere close.

He's still better than most starting QB's.

[BullNation4Life]

Originally Posted by Mr. White

He already has the NFL's leading rusher. His defense is nowhere close.

He's still better than most starting QB's.

he is still irritating as hell to watch....

[texan279]

Originally Posted by panamamyers

If the team can't see that Schaub is a loser by now then they deserve what they get. They can cut him loose now and get started with the rebuild or they can give him 4 more years and wallow in mediocrity for those four years then start the rebuild.

I cannot think of a single quarterback out there that I wouldn't rather have.

To have the talent he has around him and to still be 10th in the league in ppg.

The team wins in spite of him, not because of him.

So you are telling me you would take Derek Anderson or JaMarcus Russell over Schaub? OK then.....

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

I think this is just true. Schaub has limitations that can be schemed around but he's not going to carry anybody on his shoulders. He does a lot with not much in the way of tools. He doesn't have a strong arm. He isn't particularly accurate, and he's certainly not mobile. He isn't (consistently) clutch and makes bad decisions under pressure.

If you can protect him, provide him with a running game, and have a defense that can hold their own then Schaub won't kill you but if you can't do that or don't have those things (or won't use them from time to time for no particular reason other than that you're the smartest coach in the room) then he can be a liability at times.

We have a lousy defense so we're done from the get-go regardless of all of that. "Least of our problems" is a good description of Matt Schaub. If our biggest real problem was rectified then Schaub's maddening play would be a just a minor irritant.

See this is the problem i have with some in here. Not saying you Hervey, but aside from 3-4 qbs in the league, all qbs are bothered by these things. Why is that looked at as a problem that only he has?

& For the record, he made many plays with pressure bearing down on him. You're not going to make them all. The guy also almost never gets a short field to work with either. I just can't fathom why some in here think that every team has a manning/brady under center that is immune to pressure.

[BullNation4Life]

Originally Posted by texan279

So you are telling me you would take Derek Anderson or JaMarcus Russell over Schaub? OK then.....

no, but I would trade for Kevin Kolb in heartbeat.....

[TexansFight]

Schaub reminds me of Chris Chandler. Both are legitimately good QBs. However, neither would ever be considered franchise QBs.

[Ghostform]

If Shaub makes better decisions and throws to keep drives extended we wouldnt have to see our **** defense.

[Norg]

Matty will get another year with or without Kubes

SInce he a a Major Cop out he plays on a team that has the worst D in history

and a new OC this year

[DerekLee1]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

I've seen many QBs whine about that kind of call.

Peyton or Brady get that call.

[BullNation4Life]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

See this is the problem i have with some in here. Not saying you Hervey, but aside from 3-4 qbs in the league, all qbs are bothered by these things. Why is that looked at as a problem that only he has?

& For the record, he made many plays with pressure bearing down on him. You're not going to make them all. The guy also almost never gets a short field to work with either. I just can't fathom why some in here think that every team has a manning/brady under center that is immune to pressure.

It's not that, it's the dumb, mental mistakes Schaub makes consistently that irritate folks. Instead of running for the wide open first down again for the second week, he tries to throw it on the run and skips it or throws a uncatchable ball that kills a drive. Constantly holding on to the ball far too long, under throwing receivers constantly....

and this is just to name a few....

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by Ghostform

If Shaub makes better decisions and throws to keep drives extended we wouldnt have to see our **** defense.

[TheMatrix31]

LOL. Trading Schaub for Kevin Kolb.

[JCTexan]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

LOL. Trading Schaub for Kevin Kolb.

Don't people realize that he was only the starter for the Eagles the first two weeks before losing his spot to Vick? Schaub is one of the last players Houston should be replacing. The offense is constantly scoring twenty points a week. If the defense would hold the other team with less than thirty this team would win a lot more games.

[stingray]

Draft Ryan Mallett and trade Matt for a third rounder.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by BullNation4Life

It's not that, it's the dumb, mental mistakes Schaub makes consistently that irritate folks. Instead of running for the wide open first down again for the second week, he tries to throw it on the run and skips it or throws a uncatchable ball that kills a drive. Constantly holding on to the ball far too long, under throwing receivers constantly....

and this is just to name a few....

I get it, but i just can't get on a guy when every time he hits the field, he absolutely has to lead his team down for a TD or its pretty much all over. Sometimes you need another facet of the team to pick you up. How about a TD return special teams? How about an int and a short field D? I mean truthfully, the guy always has to drive 75 + yards to score. Manning & Brady don't even do that stuff.

[BullNation4Life]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

LOL. Trading Schaub for Kevin Kolb.

YUP in a heartbeat....

Has a far better arm and has already shown he can win games in the limited time he got to play....

you LOL but that kid is gonna get traded somewhere and be a winner and we Texans fans will be stuck with a QB that cannot even hit a WR in stride....