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Old 08-27-2005   #21
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Babin ain't doing that bad.. I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Titan uniform.. He can play..
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Old 08-27-2005   #22
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I have to say up to this point I am somewhat disapointed im him vis-a-vis his draft slot, and the amount we paid to get him. I think he has played the run reasonably well, but all of this glass half-full commentary aside, it was publicly stated that Capers targeted this guy to be a monster pass rusher. We didn't give up 3 draft picks to have a decent run stopper. Capers made very public pronouncements comparing him to Kevin Greene. Last time I looked Greene had 160 career sacks, and had ten seasons of 10 or more sacks. To be fair here, Greene didn't start until his second season, and had 7 sacks that year, so it's not as if his first year is a really true comparison. But, I do think it's fair given his draft position, and what we had to trade to get him, to be critical of his lack of production early in his career. I am still hopeful of course, but we didn't pick a Jevon Kearse here, I think it's safe to say.
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I have to say up to this point I am somewhat disapointed im him vis-a-vis his draft slot, and the amount we paid to get him. I think he has played the run reasonably well, but all of this glass half-full commentary aside, it was publicly stated that Capers targeted this guy to be a monster pass rusher. We didn't give up 3 draft picks to have a decent run stopper. Capers made very public pronouncements comparing him to Kevin Greene. Last time I looked Greene had 160 career sacks, and had ten seasons of 10 or more sacks. To be fair here, Greene didn't start until his second season, and had 7 sacks that year, so it's not as if his first year is a really true comparison. But, I do think it's fair given his draft position, and what we had to trade to get him, to be critical of his lack of production early in his career. I am still hopeful of course, but we didn't pick a Jevon Kearse here, I think it's safe to say.

I agree. He's a much more complete player than Kearse. Also, he plays a different position on a team that had much less talent around him on defense last year. I thought Babin played well last year. His sack totals would've been much better had the DL done its job last season.

That being said, I'd like to see he and Peek put more pressure on the QBs than they have to this point in the preseason.
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i hope he's good.
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there are some 3-4 veterans who beg to differ (thanks to vinny's research from "the other" thread)...
How many of those guys went in the 1st round?
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not to be a jackass, but 4 sacks, 0 int, 54 tackles is not "very good" for a 1st round (27th pick), but I think he'll pick it up this year and turn into very good LB for years to come.
To me it's pretty good for a rookie DE out of college converting to OLB in his first season in a system that ran a pretty vanilla defense all season...
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How many of those guys went in the 1st round?
Dont ask questions you havent research at least a bit.
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I know that none of those you are comparing him to are not 1st round picks, Im not sayin I dont like him or that he doesnt fit in, I hope he does great for us in years to come, all Im saying is that he hasnt impressed me as a 1ST ROUND-27th OVERALL PICK :brickwall
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I know that none of those you are comparing him to are not 1st round picks, Im not sayin I dont like him or that he doesnt fit in, I hope he does great for us in years to come, all Im saying is that he hasnt impressed me as a 1ST ROUND-27th OVERALL PICK :brickwall
The guys I'm comparing him to actually play the strongside linebacker in a 3-4 (Babin's position ya know). Those are the players to compare him to if you want to be fair...
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There's another thread on the exact same topic somewhere around here and the consensus was that he's doing fine (as evidenced by the fact that there's no "Cut Babin" threads), but that he still needs some improvement. The fans want to see sacks this year or heads are going to role. Babin happens to be an OLB, so you see the main issue. We know he can stop the run. NOBODY doubts that.

Personally, I think Babin's gonna be in a Texans uniform for a long time.
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Babin could be a bust and still not get cut for years. Just look at Hollings as an example. I think Babin is a good player by the way.
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Babin could be a bust and still not get cut for years. Just look at Hollings as an example. I think Babin is a good player by the way.
I'm confused BC, if you think he's a good player why don't you say he could be a success instead of saying he could be a bust ?
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I wasn't saying Babin is or is going to be a bust. I was merely pointing out that the Texans seem reluctant to cut high draft picks that don't cut the mustard so Babin doesn't have to worry if he ever did fall into that category. No way Hollings should have made the team this year. With that in mind, Babin has a safety net because he was such a high pick that cost us extra draft picks. He has earned his spot imho up to this point. Whether or not he was worth what we gave up to get him remains to be seen.
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