The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[gafftop]

McNair , coaching does matter.

[TheMatrix31]

This message is hidden because gafftop is on your ignore list.

...lmao

[Lucky]

I have to give it to you, you're nothing if not persistant. But, we're trying to limit the number of threads. So this goes back into the Kubes thread.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

We already had that remember? it was the Charlie Casserly & Dom Capers era. How'd that work out for us? Again, how exactly is any of this McNair's fault? He's done the the experienced GM & HC & he's done the upcoming GM & HC. What the hell else is the man supposed to do?

OK we as fans should give up and except mediocrity.

There's a he** of alot of difference between the Parcells/Cowher style of management and the Casserly/Smithiak style of management.

This team isn't far away from being a good team. They should have a high draft pick if this undisiplined crap continues. I'm not comfortable with Smithiak running another draft. As I feel this is the root of the Texans problems.

[gafftop]

LOL. I do think it is more focused than the general Fire Kubiak thread. thanks

[nut]

Mad fans are screaming for heads to roll. A guy on the 610 post-show just went ballistic screaming for the firing of Frank Bush. Of course, the talking heads reply that it wouldn't work in the middle of the season. The dude was hired by the team with little prior experience and might become a good DC. On the flip side, could our defense be any worse than it is? The Catch-22 seems to come up every year.

[Malloy]

Originally Posted by Thorn

Kubiak has another TV show now?

No no, Kubiak's on 'The Walking Dud'

[c10x]

My vote is for Rob Ryan.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

OK we as fans should give up and except mediocrity.

There's a he** of alot of difference between the Parcells/Cowher style of management and the Casserly/Smithiak style of management.

This team isn't far away from being a good team. They should have a high draft pick if this undisiplined crap continues. I'm not comfortable with Smithiak running another draft. As I feel this is the root of the Texans problems.

i'm not saying they should give up, but to heap the bulk of this team's problems on McNair is just ridiculous imo. All he's doing is putting the people he thinks are the best for the job in place & he's obviously been wrong. & If you're going to get on him about that, then quite frankly that's nothing b/c every owner in the league makes those same mistakes b/c only 1 team can win the superbowl every year.

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by c10x

My vote is for Rob Ryan.

Those Ryan guys seem to know a thing or two about defense, at least.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

i'm not saying they should give up, but to heap the bulk of this team's problems on McNair is just ridiculous imo. All he's doing is putting the people he thinks are the best for the job in place & he's obviously been wrong. & If you're going to get on him about that, then quite frankly that's nothing b/c every owner in the league makes those same mistakes b/c only 1 team can win the superbowl every year.

Losers attitude

This we'll be better next yr crap is getting old.

How long IYO should McNair get a pass?

Meanwhile stuffing his pockets with the fans $$$$.

[Blake]

This is going to get ugly. Whos next? @Jets. vsTitans. @Ealges. vsRavens. @Titans.

Hello 5-8.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Super Mario

This is going to get ugly. Whos next? @Jets. vsTitans. @Ealges. vsRavens. @Titans.

Hello 5-8.

If they're lucky.

The Texans are losing games against bad teams that are trying to give games away.

All of the teams you listed are well coached physical teams. Those are the types of teams that give the Texans the most problems.

3 of them are on the road and a 4th game is a pseudo home game with all of the VY nut huggers.

It doesn't look promising. IMHO

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Losers attitude

This we'll be better next yr crap is getting old.

How long IYO should McNair get a pass?

Meanwhile stuffing his pockets with the fans $$$$.

Not sure how your getting loser's attitude out of what im saying, but in any case,

WTH are you talking about? In none of my posts have i said McNair should keep kubiak or we'll be better next year. What i am saying is that at the end of the day, the players on field have the most control over the product they produce on the field. & when you look at it from that perspective, how much of the blame can you really heap on McNair. The answer is not much.

& as far as McNair lining his pockets, all i can tell you is that you & any other fans who show up to games have the most control over that; just stop going.

[TheMatrix31]

If Kubiak ends up fired AND Whisenhunt gets canned, I would love to have him.

[gwallaia]

Its 5:45!!!! Why does Kubiak still have a job???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by gwallaia

Its 5:45!!!! Why does Kubiak still have a job???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See my sig.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

yeah, a guy who sank 700 million into an nfl franchis is cheap.....good luck convincing anyone with that.

Funny & ironic really b/c we're down here complaining about an owner who's hands off yet right up in Dallas in the same state, their fans are complaining about an owner who's too hands on...The reality of it is texans don't know what the hell they want.

TO be perfectly honest investing 700 million dollars into a perpetual money machine doesn't mean that you can't then run said money machine pinching every penny possible. I'm not saying he is or isn't cheap. I'm just saying that I keep seeing his purchase of the Texans thrown out as evidence that he isn't cheap and that doesn't prove a thing.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

Not sure how your getting loser's attitude out of what im saying, but in any case,

WTH are you talking about? In none of my posts have i said McNair should keep kubiak or we'll be better next year. What i am saying is that at the end of the day, the players on field have the most control over the product they produce on the field. & when you look at it from that perspective, how much of the blame can you really heap on McNair. The answer is not much.

& as far as McNair lining his pockets, all i can tell you is that you & any other fans who show up to games have the most control over that; just stop going.

McNair hired thse people to run this franchise? Right

Therefore he's responsible for the success/failure of this franchise.

And you're right it's my choice to buy or not buy his product.

The end is near for me if things dont change this season. Or major changes in leadership of this franchise aren't made this offseason. Lockout or no lockout.

Even though it wont matter. There will be a thousand fans waiting to buy my PSL's and season tickets.

Unfortunately Uncle BoB is aware this too.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

TO be perfectly honest investing 700 million dollars into a perpetual money machine doesn't mean that you can't then run said money machine pinching every penny possible. I'm not saying he is or isn't cheap. I'm just saying that I keep seeing his purchase of the Texans thrown out as evidence that he isn't cheap and that doesn't prove a thing.

Well, put it like this, if he doesn't step up to the plate & shell out however many millions he did & successfully bring an NFL pro team back to houston, We might very well still be without one.

I know some might think to themselves that that's probably not a bad thing right about now but the fact of the matter is that he did that & he didn't have to. He could've just went about his way & kept running his other successful businesses.

Either way anyone tries to spin it, the guy spent his own money to make it happen & that to me is not someone who's thinks that money is his only concern. Did he look at the dollars and cents of it? of course he did, he's a billionaire business man.