The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[TexansSeminole]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

We might win 7 of the next 8 games. There's only 3 top 10 offenses on our schedule from here on out (compared to the 6 in the first 8 games)...... Kubiak may figure out how to stick with the run game whether it looks like it's working or not. Jets & Baltimore are the only teams with truly scary defenses, the Titans are as bad as we are. & Philly keeps changing QBs every week, that powder keg may blow up in their face by the time we play them.

There are still 8 games to go.

That's because they haven't played the Texans yet.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by TexansSeminole

That's because they haven't played the Texans yet.

I thought the same thing, but subtracting 200 yards from each of those teams wouldn't have changed their position.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Not really, because you're (not just you) upset & disappointed with this team because we haven't been to the play-offs in 9 years.

& we don't know if that is true or not.

I've asked the question many different ways on this board, & it doesn't appear that playing good football is even a concern, as long as we get into the play-offs.

We could have been 9-7 last year, beating the Jets & losing to the Sea-Hawks & everyone would have been thrilled, even though we weren't playing any better.

We don't know what's going to happen over the next 8 weeks, San Chez & LT might miss the rest of the year, Ed Reed, Ngata & Ray Lewis may miss a few games, The Cleveland Browns might win their division, we may very well win 10 games & make the play-offs.

Jets & Ravens only won 9 games last year, same as us. They look high on the hog right now, but you don't know what's going to happen in the next 8 weeks. They might hit a 4 game losing streak (like the Giants did last year). The Colts luck might run out. Randy Moss might tear that team apart.

We might win 7 of the next 8 games. There's only 3 top 10 offenses on our schedule from here on out (compared to the 6 in the first 8 games)...... Kubiak may figure out how to stick with the run game whether it looks like it's working or not. Jets & Baltimore are the only teams with truly scary defenses, the Titans are as bad as we are. & Philly keeps changing QBs every week, that powder keg may blow up in their face by the time we play them.

There are still 8 games to go.

I'm not worried at all about what other teams gotta do.

If the TEXANS gotta win 8 games to make the playoffs, they'd
better damn-well do it. Time's up for Kubiak.
No excuses in 2010.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

I'm not worried at all about what other teams gotta do.

If the TEXANS gotta win 8 games to make the playoffs, they'd
better damn-well do it. Time's up for Kubiak.
No excuses in 2010.

I agree, never said any different.

& you totally missed my point.

[spurstexanstros]

TK..no point in arguing with the soapers...I mean this thread was about 4 threads deep when the Texans started the season ..jumped eight threads deep when the Texans went down 17 to the Skins and jumped up twenty after first loss..etc... etc. some of these guys have been wanting Kubiak gone regardless of the outcome of the season. I am sure if the Texans made the playoffs and loose the soapers would claim Kubiak is not the coach to take them to the next level.(Cmon admit it yall know its true)

[spurstexanstros]

sorry my bad this thread is from last year...some people really hold grudges. sheesh this thread iis ridiculous

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by spurstexanstros

TK..no point in arguing with the soapers...I mean this thread was about 4 threads deep when the Texans started the season ..jumped eight threads deep when the Texans went down 17 to the Skins and jumped up twenty after first loss..etc... etc. some of these guys have been wanting Kubiak gone regardless of the outcome of the season. I am sure if the Texans made the playoffs and loose the soapers would claim Kubiak is not the coach to take them to the next level.(Cmon admit it yall know its true)

Well it's been like three years now, and all the arguments you've made on Kubiak's behalf on how he was going to do this and do that and move this team into the upper echelon of the NFL, and yet we're still here at the same spot we were two seasons ago making similar mistakes with a lot of the same problems and lacking the same attitude that many of us complained about then. I think at this point you owe a lot of the soapers a lot more credibility and the benefit of the doubt. It's been a lot more accurate than what you've been claiming was going to happen the last three seasons. This isn't just one season of a disagreement on this guy and his regime now. This is an argument of yours that's been a fail for three years now. At this point, you ought to be conceding to the soapers and recognizing the accuracy of our claims.

[spurstexanstros]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Well it's been like three years now, and all the arguments you've made on Kubiak's behalf on how he was going to do this and do that and move this team into the upper echelon of the NFL, and yet we're still here at the same spot we were two seasons ago making similar mistakes with a lot of the same problems and lacking the same attitude that many of us complained about then. I think at this point you owe a lot of the soapers a lot more credibility and the benefit of the doubt. It's been a lot more accurate than what you've been claiming was going to happen the last three seasons. This isn't just one season of a disagreement on this guy and his regime now. This is an argument of yours that's been a fail for three years now. At this point, you ought to be conceding to the soapers and recognizing the accuracy of our claims.

Hmmmm ...season isnt over and that is our point. Kubiak has brought the Texans their first winning season EVER,and if it wasnt for a rollover by the colts and/or three missed kicks they would have made the playoffs. But seeing how the "soapers" seem to go mute after wins or a wins
This year and last year the games that cost us were lost by the players....even the colts game. Kubiak's playcalling put the Texans into positions to win. This year again the critical losses were due to player mistakes. When the players excecute they win.


I have yet to see any of the fire kubiak crowd give him any credit for winning..they seem to credit the players..huh..funny isnt it.


Then again im going to listen to a group of fans that probably have the soap out for the Rockets and Astros coaches. How are those coaching changes working out?

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by spurstexanstros

This year again the critical losses were due to player mistakes. When the players excecute they win.

Will someone please get Gary Kubiak some players that execute and don't make mistakes? Please?

I hate to see a great coach like Kubiak wasted on such lousy players.

[Runner]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Will someone please get Gary Kubiak some players that execute and don't make mistakes? Please?

I hate to see a great coach like Kubiak wasted on such lousy players.

No prob. Rick Smith is the greatest GM in like forever.

[thunderkyss]

Cowboys

Giants

Colts

Chargers

Are we saying it is completely inexcuseable to have lost any of those games?

Is it one game in particular that you think we shouldn't have lost?

[steelbtexan]

Uncle BoB is the greatest owner ever.

He gave us the joy of the genius that is Gary and Rick.

[spurstexanstros]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Cowboys

Giants

Colts
Chargers
Are we saying it is completely inexcuseable to have lost any of those games?

Is it one game in particular that you think we shouldn't have lost?

"Yes.. In the Colts game .Gary Kubiak told Matt to throw pic six and fumble the ball in the red zone. He shouldnt have called those plays...if he would have been a better coach he would have told Matt that interceptions were bad and to have them returned for TDs really bad.

The Chargers loss was due to the fact Kubiak didnt tell Arian to watch the Calvin Johnson highlights from week one otherwise he would have known to not let ball hit ground. Jacoby should have known that the ball is supposed to be caught in the endzone..I mean cmon you got to coach that up. Andre is so great... Andre is so great..oooops....Andre you dont want to kick the ball with your knee..hey dont they have drills for that? Kubiak should have known his best player wouldnt catch the ball. His qb should never try to get the ball to his best player."

Thank you -Captain Hindsight

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Well it's been like three years now, and all the arguments you've made on Kubiak's behalf on how he was going to do this and do that and move this team into the upper echelon of the NFL, and yet we're still here at the same spot we were two seasons ago making similar mistakes with a lot of the same problems and lacking the same attitude that many of us complained about then. I think at this point you owe a lot of the soapers a lot more credibility and the benefit of the doubt. It's been a lot more accurate than what you've been claiming was going to happen the last three seasons. This isn't just one season of a disagreement on this guy and his regime now. This is an argument of yours that's been a fail for three years now. At this point, you ought to be conceding to the soapers and recognizing the accuracy of our claims.

Exactly. The things that we have been saying about Kubiak we have been saying since the middle of last year. And, they are coming to fruition.

It is ridiculus to assume that those of us who have lost faith in Kubiak lost faith in him this season.

[wagonhed]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Will someone please get Gary Kubiak some players that execute and don't make mistakes? Please?

I hate to see a great coach like Kubiak wasted on such lousy players.

I know, right? Isn't it such an unlucky coincidence that the players we draft, from all sorts of different backgrounds, just happen to be ones that can't stop making mistakes?

[GNTLEWOLF]

Originally Posted by houstonspartan

Exactly. The things that we have been saying about Kubiak we have been saying since the middle of last year. And, they are coming to fruition.

It is ridiculus to assume that those of us who have lost faith in Kubiak lost faith in him this season.

Some of us lost faith in Kubiak in the middle of his second season...
some of this schnizzle was evident then...

[DexmanC]

I just get tired of our guys making the same boneheaded mistakes
week in, and week out. Good coaching is about teaching. Putting
players in position to make a play, and knowing what to do when they
get there.

Our guys are just reacting, and not dictating to the opponent. It seems
every guy we bring in here never improves, but actually regresses. Some
people hate D-Rob, but his frustration with this regime is quite understandable
in hindsight.

[Grams]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Uncle BoB is the greatest owner ever.

He gave us the joy of the genius that is Gary and Rick.

You would prefer Matt Millen?

[Thorn]

The results speak for themselves. How many playoffs have we been to? Does anybody here really think the Texans will go 6-2 the rest of the year to even have a chance at the playoffs?

I hope they do so folks like me would shut up about it, but I just don't see it happening. The complaints will continue until the problem is fixed, which is standard in any business, football or grocery stores.

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Will someone please get Gary Kubiak some players that execute and don't make mistakes? Please?

I hate to see a great coach like Kubiak wasted on such lousy players.

These players ought to be playin' for FREE, I tell ya', by the good graces of this great man to spend his precious time coaching them, it is without excuses or reason why they simply don't live up to this coaching genius and giant among .500 head coaches.

The pretzel logic being displayed for a 35-37 coach is admirable, but ultimately myopic (in the nicest sense of myopia, of course).

I don't know how much validity Jason La Canfora has on NFL Network, but his update about the Texans last night was interesting, if for nothing else than the continuous hum of one chin as it pertains to our football team. He said that McNair gave Kubiak the "vote of confidence", but his fate would be determined by making the playoffs or not. And he specifically mentioned that Cowher is interested in the Houston HC position. Where there's smoke? Btw, has Wade Phillips of the 3-4 D ever worked with Cowher? It's too much to ask, but you know what...I'm in the asking mood right now...