The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Super Mario

I think a lot of us think one of the biggest problems with this team is the Jekyll and Hyde act. Which team will show up? The one that smoked Indy, or the one that layed down after the Giants punched them in the face? Thats the exact opposite of consistency, and keeping a team consistent is what the HC is supposed to do. I am not talking about playing well and coming out flat for the occasional game. This team has been playing up and down for years.

The only difference between the Wk1 Colts game & the Giants game, is that we were able to run the ball on the Colts, not so much on the Giants. The passing game has been consistently poor all year long. The passing game showed up late in the Skins game, late in the KC game. I think it showed up 2nd Qtr or so against San Diego..... other than that, it ain't been there. Consistently.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

Which "soapers" are calling for Kubiak to be fired now? I believe most people want him fired after the season if things continue to spiral downward. Which is expected considering our schedule and how we've been playing.

Personally, I don't think he'll be fired either way due to his recent extension. There might be a few heads roll, but I doubt it's his.

Right... you're right. The soapers are saying it won't get any better over the next 8 games.

I & I think the other sunshiners are saying it should. We still think this is a good team, don't know why we're in a shambles... but we've believe we'll get out of this funk soon.... we think soon, because we're running out of time.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Right... you're right. The soapers are saying it won't get any better over the next 8 games.

I & I think the other sunshiners are saying it should. We still think this is a good team, don't know why we're in a shambles... but we've believe we'll get out of this funk soon.... we think soon, because we're running out of time.

2-0 start

2-4 since

8 teams capable of SMASHING the Texans left on the schedule

Coaching is holding this team back, and it deserves a better option
at head coach.

[MeLoveTexans]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

2-0 start

2-4 since

8 teams capable of SMASHING the Texans left on the schedule

Coaching is holding this team back, and it deserves a better option
at head coach.

Correction 6 teams. we play 2 twice

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

Later today, we will work on the tape studay, video, etc... But, for now, I simply had to resolve the state of my relationship with one of my all-time favorite coaches. Here you go:

Divorce is sad, depressing, and sometimes unavoidable. I argue with Barrett all the time about commitment. I happen to believe that, committment, in itself is a moral good. Committing to things and people despite the difficulty they present builds character and honors life, I believe. Many sports fans see their fandom as an escape from reality. I do not. Certainly, I see it as entertainment. However, I am very passionate about football, in particular, and I look for symmetry between football and life. I love it when a player, team, a play, or a season tells me something about life. For instance, I love it when effort is rewarded. Or, when sacrifice pays dividend, I am moved. I even revel in the immense disappointment tied to a season of almost. All of that speaks to the human condition and to the things I grapple with in my life. I have enjoyed the humanity displayed by Gary Kubiak. I have rooted for him, believed in him in the difficult moments, and suffered through the disappointments, not afraid to hope again the next week and the next season, risking further crushing disappointment.

Well, half way through our fifth season together, I am afraid I must acknowledge it is time to part ways. There are simply too many irreconcilable differences. I just can’t do this anymore. We are at a point now that our splitting is no longer an “if”, it is a “when”. The longer this relationship lingers on, the more pain and anguish all parties will suffer as a result. I wish Gary well… I really do. I will always root for him.

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I can't believe what I just read. Dale ole buddy has finally seen enough. Man, I didn't think it was possible. That's when you know things are bad when even Dale finally throws in the towel.

[HJam72]

Don't think it's going to get better, but I hate to judge the....coachiot too soon.

I'm a half-bar of soap.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

I can't believe what I just read. Dale ole buddy has finally seen enough. Man, I didn't think it was possible. That's when you know things are bad when even Dale finally throws in the towel.

Tell me about it.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I & I think the other sunshiners are saying...

The Sunshine Club has dwindled to a small group. Quite possibly, you & you.

P.S. And Marcus.

P.P.S. Maybe.

[HJam72]

Originally Posted by Lucky

The Sunshine Club has dwindled to a small group. Quite possibly, you & you.

P.S. And Marcus.

P.P.S. Maybe.

You used a PowerPoint Slideshow for that?

[Wolf]

I think my frustration pendulum is swung over where it is starting to be funny. t I couldn't help but laugh

I had a mental image of the bolder part

Along the way, someone will get hurt and he'll be replaced on the roster with the next anonymous, nondescript, ****ty player with ties to the Denver Broncos or Purdue University. The Texans will head into their final two games needing one win to get to .500 or go 9-7 and miss the playoffs, and they'll finish out at home with a win against Jacksonville.

Why?Because Kubiak is 4-0 in meaningless season finales as Texans head coach. It's been enough to keep him employed, but last I checked the fans don't pay big money for a post-game ceremony of Kubiak raising his W-2 over his head like the Lombardi Trophy.

No one is getting any satisfaction. Texans fans have never been able to feel good about this team for more than a week or two at a time. It has to stop. No more post-game press conferences of "It's on me. We gotta go fix it. We gotta get that corrected." It's time for Bob McNair to have a press conference where he talks about fixing things, and then goes and fixes them.

McNair doesn't need any film, he just needs a game program. Propaganda doesn't cover up the numbers. The Texans are 4-4; Gary Kubiak is 35-37. It's not going to change, because Kubiak won't change. He's a .500 coach. The Texans are a .500 franchise.

That shouldn't be good enough. It can't be good enough.

So yeah, the Texans played the Chargers yesterday. They lost. Big deal. See you at 8-8.

Every home game Sunday, the Houston Texans put out a free publication called the Tailgate Times that gets handed to ticket holders and media members as they pull into their respective Reliant Stadium parking lots. It's essentially a four-page piece of upbeat Texans propaganda, a printed trailer if you will to the main-feature myopia of the game program.

Perhaps the headline (right next to a picture of tight end Owen Daniels in a three-point stance) of yesterday's Tailgate Times should have told us everything we needed to know about how Sunday was going to go:

"Owen Daniels Back better than ever"

About 45 minutes later, in the press box, we were handed the list of inactive players for the game yesterday afternoon. Chief among them on the Texans side of the page:

"81 TE Owen Daniels"

Back. Better than ever. And inactive. It was all downhill from there.

it is not funny but it is at this moment to me

The view the Texans' secondary had all day

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairba...ton_texans.php

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Lucky

The Sunshine Club has dwindled to a small group. Quite possibly, you & you.

P.S. And Marcus.

P.P.S. Maybe.

Well, our blog is split: I'm writing about divorcing Kubiak while Barrett wrote a story about things "looking up". He's delirious, though.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

2-0 start

2-4 since

8 teams capable of SMASHING the Texans left on the schedule

Coaching is holding this team back, and it deserves a better option
at head coach.

I'm just not seeing that. JJ in the endzone.... didn't make a catch that was a gift to him.

Arian Foster's touchdown gets called back....

If those plays stand, we win the game. We had a lead going into the 4th Qtr, & bad luck struck.

I wouldn't blame the coaches any more than I'm blaming the players, that's just the way that goes.

Colts..... there is no guarantee that running the ball more would have been a win, check their game against the Dolphins last year. 45 minutes to 15, Miami still lost.

Philadelphia beat the Colts only handing the ball off to McCoy 16 times. I know it's different with Vick, but it's not like they threw in 10 designed runs for him. Vick ain't Schaub, but the Eagles went in thinking they can beat the Colts, dropping Vick back to throw the ball.

Is Andy Reid not a viable head coach?

This team has been in position to win, they haven't capitalized (executed) yeah, the coach has something to do with that as well.... but not so much that it is holding us back.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Lucky

The Sunshine Club has dwindled to a small group. Quite possibly, you & you.

P.S. And Marcus.

P.P.S. Maybe.

It does feel awful lonely here.

But that usually happens when it gets close to Xmas time.... I think it's cause they don't want to buy me a gift....

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I'm just not seeing that. JJ in the endzone.... didn't make a catch that was a gift to him.

Arian Foster's touchdown gets called back....

If those plays stand, we win the game. We had a lead going into the 4th Qtr, & bad luck struck.

I wouldn't blame the coaches any more than I'm blaming the players, that's just the way that goes.

Colts..... there is no guarantee that running the ball more would have been a win, check their game against the Dolphins last year. 45 minutes to 15, Miami still lost.

Philadelphia beat the Colts only handing the ball off to McCoy 16 times. I know it's different with Vick, but it's not like they threw in 10 designed runs for him. Vick ain't Schaub, but the Eagles went in thinking they can beat the Colts, dropping Vick back to throw the ball.

Is Andy Reid not a viable head coach?

This team has been in position to win, they haven't capitalized (executed) yeah, the coach has something to do with that as well.... but not so much that it is holding us back.

Schaub ain't half the playmaker Vick is. You see that 60+ yard bomb
he threw to Jackson to get them out of their own endzone? Vick
routinely makes plays like that, Schaub doesn't. If they sit back passively
on Vick, he's 20 yards upfield. If Mathis and Freeney crash down on
Vick, he's 20 yards upfield.

Holla at me when Schaub is that kind of playmaker. The Eagles won, because
Reid knows he has a hell of a playmaker and gave him the ball all game long.
Kubiak took the ball out of Foster's hands on key redzone possessions and
short-yardage situations in the second half. When did Reid pull Vick out,
and shove Kolb in there for "a couple reps?"


The phrase is "Schaub ain't Vick." The Texans will find that out in a few
weeks.

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I'm just not seeing that. JJ in the endzone.... didn't make a catch that was a gift to him.

Arian Foster's touchdown gets called back....

I don't exactly know about a "gift", it was tipped

(about the only time I will defend jones on that one)..would have been a really good catch

Foster's "TD" .. I don't like the NFL rule one bit but a few players have been burned on it this season and I guess a rule is a rule

[Pantherstang84]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I'm just not seeing that. JJ in the endzone.... didn't make a catch that was a gift to him.

Arian Foster's touchdown gets called back....

If those plays stand, we win the game. We had a lead going into the 4th Qtr, & bad luck struck.

I wouldn't blame the coaches any more than I'm blaming the players, that's just the way that goes.

Colts..... there is no guarantee that running the ball more would have been a win, check their game against the Dolphins last year. 45 minutes to 15, Miami still lost.

Philadelphia beat the Colts only handing the ball off to McCoy 16 times. I know it's different with Vick, but it's not like they threw in 10 designed runs for him. Vick ain't Schaub, but the Eagles went in thinking they can beat the Colts, dropping Vick back to throw the ball.

Is Andy Reid not a viable head coach?

This team has been in position to win, they haven't capitalized (executed) yeah, the coach has something to do with that as well.... but not so much that it is holding us back.

Sorry. The coach has everything to do with it. EVERYTHING! Either his preparation of the team is lacking or he and Rick Smith did not select the right players. It rests on him.

[TexansSeminole]

The fact that the guy has been unable to get the defense right for a full season in 4.5 seasons is enough to fire him IMO. The Head Coach is the Head Coach, not the coach of only one side. It's the head coaches job to have the offense, the defense, and the special teams all playing well. If he can't do that in five years, the gig is up.

That's the first thing I look at.

2006:
Total Defense: 24th
Points per game: 26th

2007:
Total: 24th
Points: 23rd

2008:
Total: 22th
Points: 27th

2009:
Total: 14th
Points: 17th

2010 (through 8 games):
Total: 32nd
Points 30th

Last year we were in the middle of the pack, outside of that we have been among the worst.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

Schaub ain't half the playmaker Vick is. You see that 60+ yard bomb
he threw to Jackson to get them out of their own endzone? Vick
routinely makes plays like that, Schaub doesn't. If they sit back passively
on Vick, he's 20 yards upfield. If Mathis and Freeney crash down on
Vick, he's 20 yards upfield.

Holla at me when Schaub is that kind of playmaker. The Eagles won, because
Reid knows he has a hell of a playmaker and gave him the ball all game long.
Kubiak took the ball out of Foster's hands on key redzone possessions and
short-yardage situations in the second half. When did Reid pull Vick out,
and shove Kolb in there for "a couple reps?"


The phrase is "Schaub ain't Vick." The Texans will find that out in a few
weeks.

Pulling Vick & sticking Kold in is equivalent to asking Schaub & AJ to make a play?

What?

[Showtime100]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Right... you're right. The soapers are saying it won't get any better over the next 8 games.

I & I think the other sunshiners are saying it should. We still think this is a good team, don't know why we're in a shambles... but we've believe we'll get out of this funk soon.... we think soon, because we're running out of time.

*touches nose then points to TK repeatedly*

You're getting warm TK! Dangit, you're getting closer!!

[Dishman]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Pulling Vick & sticking Kold in is equivalent to asking Schaub & AJ to make a play?

What?

He's referring to Arian Foster being pulled out to rest a few reps in place of Derrick Ward or a series of pass plays. Andy Reid didn't pull Vick from the game in place of Kolb to let Vick get some rest. Reid used Vick to his advantage whereas Kubiak uses Foster in a way that makes some of us tilt are head and say "wtf just happened".