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Old 08-27-2005   #41
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Why don't we just move Jammal Lord back to QB?
Uh... because he sucks and those guys are good.

Hey D-Rek, did you steal Fingers5's avatar? Eat'em up Kats.
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Bears: Chad Hutchinson
Bengals: Carson Palmer
Bills: J.P. Losman
Broncos: Jake Plummer
Browns: Trent Dilfer
Bucs: Brian Griese
Cardinals: Kurt Warner
Chargers: Drew Brees
Chiefs: Trent Green
Colts: Peyton Manning
Cowboys: Drew Bledsoe
Dolphins: Gus Frerotte
Ealges: Donovan McNabb
Falcons: Michael Vick
Giants: Eli Manning
Jaguars: Byron Leftwich
Jets: Chad Pennington
Lions: Joey Harrington / Jeff Garcia
Niners: Alex Smith
Packers: Brett Favre
Panthers: Jake Delhomme
Patriots: Tom Brady
Raiders: Kerry Collins
Rams: Marc Bulger
Ravens: Kyle Boller
Redskins: Patrick Ramsey
Saints: Aaron Brooks
Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger
Titans: Steve McNair
Vikings: Daunte Culpepper

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For Sure:
Manning
McNabb
Culpepper
Brady
Vick

Maybe:
Green
Eli Manning

No Way:
Favre
McNair
Hutchinson
Losman
Dilfer
Griese
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#1. Vick
#2. Brady
#3. Manning
#4. Culpepper

Carson Palmer, and Ben Rothlisberger are close, but I keep Carr.
Vick?!!, give me a break! No way I'd want Mike Vick on my team. He's fun to watch but he's expensive and he can't throw. Who wants a QB that can't throw? The AFC would eat him alive.
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Tom Brady is a maybe according to Swisher. A Maybe? You have to be kidding me. As much as I like Carr personally and as a QB to lead this team, if the Pats called tomorrow and offered Brady for Carr straight up, Casserly would be doing Swinton endzone backflips all the way accross the field. Maybe? Unreal.
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Tom Brady is a maybe according to Swisher. A Maybe? You have to be kidding me. As much as I like Carr personally and as a QB to lead this team, if the Pats called tomorrow and offered Brady for Carr straight up, Casserly would be doing Swinton endzone backflips all the way accross the field. Maybe? Unreal.

It was only a maybe because of how much time Brady spends surfing for porn....wait, on second thought....
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If I offered you any of these guys straight up for Carr, who would you take?

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Brady
hard to take you seriously enough to read the rest of your post. carry on.
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add Brady to your for sure list......best QB in the league.
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Vinny Young and Reggie McNeil.
Good Choices for new Blood.

However the one person that is not mentioned is the Aaron Rogers. I believe that guy will be good as time comes along.
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Bears: Chad Hutchinson - I thought he retired or died off...
Bengals: Carson Palmer - push as of current offseason, palmer in the long run
Bills: J.P. Losman - not now, not later...
Broncos: Jake Plummer - never like this man
Browns: Trent Dilfer - great player, still not over carr
Bucs: Brian Griese - no
Cardinals: Kurt Warner - noo...!
Chargers: Drew Brees - jury is out on him, but not over carr
Chiefs: Trent Green - i like the guy for fantasy #'s, but not for a team
Colts: Peyton Manning - i like this guy for fantasy #'s and for my team
Cowboys: Drew Bledsoe - only on my backyard football computer game
Dolphins: Gus Frerotte - who? in all honesty, this is probally the worst qb
Ealges: Donovan McNabb - he reminds me of the cubs, he chokes...NO!
Falcons: Michael Vick - with our o line, we know he could run all day. YES!
Giants: Eli Manning - overrated because of peyton...NO
Jaguars: Byron Leftwich - yes,but only to watch freeny pummel him repeadetly. otherwise...NO

Jets: Chad Pennington - big supporter of him, but not over carr
Lions: Joey Harrington / Jeff Garcia - i wouldnt take both of them over BJ..sad
Niners: Alex Smith - this is a franchise headed to its demise even quicker now
Packers: Brett Favre - declining, hinting at retirment...so no...not this year
Panthers: Jake Delhomme - push...he is sooo UNDERrated
Patriots: Tom Brady - he is a winner, also a women, but i still take him
Raiders: Kerry Collins - only for fantasy, and maybe not that anymore
Rams: Marc Bulger - product of the system, still in prime, but carr is better
Ravens: Kyle Boller - kid has only survived this long because of lewis and his d
Redskins: Patrick Ramsey - noo...
Saints: Aaron Brooks - i have joey harrington rated higher...
Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck - overrated now, great rb though..so no
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger - hype has gotten to him, i'll take him in '07
Titans: Steve McNair - no, he already left houston once
Vikings: Daunte Culpepper - has the best tools to survive behine this o-line...yes!

only ones worth keeping over carr:
1. Palmer...better looking future even with same o-line...
2. Peyton...its just a given...
3. Vick...probally one of only a few position players who could run behind this o-line, give him the ball everytime, throw once, run twice, give to davis once.
4. Delhomme...about even with carr, new enviorment though...maybe not a good thing though..
5. Brady...simply put, he is a winner, we need that here...
6. Culpepper...probally the best overall option for our team, can move and throw...and he can move!
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Default Do not see the value in Carr

I do not recall one game where Carr has "willed" us to a win (The Jax goal line TD was nice, but was not a result of great drive). I have not seen how he has made anyone around him better. Yes the line has been extremely suspect, but for the value that we attached to him has an organization we have seen zero return on investment.

I have been patient, but if a dissapointing fourth year is served by him then as far as I am concerned he and Palmer must go.
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I do not recall one game where Carr has "willed" us to a win

I can give you at least one example ....

11/30/03 VS the Falcons . Banks started the game got hurt (broken hand ?), Carr came in and played hurt himself (Shoulder I believe) . The play that stands out is one in which Carr is forced out of the pocket and breaks off for about a 30 yard gain. When he's about to be tackled , he doesnt hook slide , he goes head first . The Texans score on that drive and go on to win the game 17-13 .

That performance by Carr showed me he had something that just cant be taught .
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I can give you at least one example ....

11/30/03 VS the Falcons . Banks started the game got hurt (broken hand ?), Carr came in and played hurt himself (Shoulder I believe) . The play that stands out is one in which Carr is forced out of the pocket and breaks off for about a 30 yard gain. When he's about to be tackled , he doesnt hook slide , he goes head first . The Texans score on that drive and go on to win the game 17-13 .

That performance by Carr showed me he had something that just cant be taught .
KC last year...
though they ended up losing, how about Minnesota?


Carr finished the season with a 4th quarter passer rating in the 90s. That's very good by the way.
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...I have been patient, but if a dissapointing fourth year is served by him then as far as I am concerned he and Palmer must go.
after running for his life for 3 seasons, his skills are not as sharp as they once were, but isn't that normal? I'm happy to hear that even though we have the same o-line, he should take less hits this year due to shorter drops and routes. This will help keep him healthier for season #5 and the playoffs. Of course, after one more bad game some of our fellow message board members will commit suicide and miss all the fun.
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#1. Vick
#2. Brady
#3. Manning
#4. Culpepper

Carson Palmer, and Ben Rothlisberger are close, but I keep Carr.
We already have a herpies free running back why do we need Vick?
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Peyton - Vick - Mcnabb - Culpepper - Brady -


Any of them a definite. Anyone else i'd need to look at and see how they would coordinate with us.
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Tim Couch if David keep's throwing those picks every week, just kidding hopefully this is not signs to come of David Carr, the first interception was terrible. Anyway it would have to be Peyton then Vick.
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Right now, I'd only take:

- Manning
- Brady
- McNabb
- Culpepper

Based on their ages and related potential, I'd stick with Carr with the exception of those four guys.

And I wouldn't bet for a second that Belichick would trade Brady for Manning, even if Peyton's cap number was reduced somehow. He was more or less asked that question once last year, and responded with, "There's no one I'd rather have as my quarterback (than Brady)."
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For all of the Vick lovers, he is way OVERATED and just plain SUCKS as a quaterback, have to admit though that he is one of the best athelets in the nfl, just not a good QB.
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Patriots: Tom Brady - he is a winner, also a women, but i still take him
Just noticed this... LOL! I wonder how his actress supermodel girlfriend feels about his apparent "girl parts."
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Why don't we just move Jammal Lord back to QB?
this is a BS post. reggie mcneal has fantastic QB skills. i'm guessing you made an um generalization.
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