The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[El Tejano]

Is Kubiak fired yet?

[GuerillaBlack]

I even picked up Derrick Ward in fantasy football before the Monday night game because I assumed, since the Colts couldn't stop the run, that the Texans would keep running it with Foster and Ward. I guess I'm smarter than Kubiak.

[HTown2ATX]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

Ever considered that we probably are just on the cusp, and that it's probably Kubiak preventing us from getting over it?

Yes, I have. Which sux.

[drewmar74]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

Ever considered that we probably are just on the cusp, and that it's probably Kubiak preventing us from getting over it?

Originally Posted by HTown2ATX

Yes, I have. Which sux.

Wow.

That Kubiak may have taken a team with enough talent to go the distance and turned it into dookie.....

Yes. I could see that.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

Do we stay glued to Kubiak because he was our "first?"

I think 5 years is enough to see if Kubiak can do what we want him to.

Some people think 5 years is way too long to still be in doubt.

We are in year 5 now, nothings going to change that. Kubiak is here now, nothings going to change that either.

If we don't have a strong showing in the post season, I have no problem letting him go... in fact, I'll be wanting him gone.

Right now, things are looking as if you guys were right, & we should have parted ways last year.

But the season isn't over yet.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Rey

Lots of people didn't know how to have sex before they lost their virginity. Doesn't mean you stay with that person for ever. Doesn't mean that person is the best person for you. Doesn't even mean that person will be your best lover.

Kubiak has improved the team...no dispute from me on that...

But that doesn't mean he is the coach to take us to that next level. Every year it's looking less likely that he will get us to the level that we want to be at.

Never said any different.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

Football careers are SHORT, compared to ANY of the other professional
sports. Why handcuff these players to a mediocre coach for their
entire career? Don't they deserve an opportunity to win before their
careers are ended? FIVE SEASONS is more than HALF of a football player's
career IF HE'S LUCKY.

How many players have been ruined because of too many, too frequent coaching changes in Detroit, Arizona, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, New Orleans, etc... How many players have been ruined in San Francisco the last 12 years??

I know some of those franchises have had success recently, but in their history, I think they have been in constant mediocrity because they changed coaches too frequently, never allowing anyone to build a winning tradition.

I think any coach could have taken this team to a strong post season this season. But I'm not so confident any coach could keep it going. I think Kubiak can.

I may be wrong, we'll find out.

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I think any coach could have taken this team to a strong post season this season. But I'm not so confident any coach could keep it going. I think Kubiak can.

I may be wrong, we'll find out.

What can Kubiak keep going? Mediocrity? Because he surely hasn't gotten us to the playoffs.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

What can Kubiak keep going? Mediocrity? Because he surely hasn't gotten us to the playoffs.

9 games to go.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

9 games to go.

Kubiak, using the past as an indicator of the future, is a 5-4 coach.

Is that a *winning* record?

The answer to that question may be the one we a disagree on.

[beerlover]

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by beerlover

^^^^^
Kubiak's 2010 Season

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

Kubiak, using the past as an indicator of the future, is a 5-4 coach.

Is that a *winning* record?

The answer to that question may be the one we a disagree on.

Coincidence....

purely coincidence.

[Mr. White]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Some guys can argue until Tuesday or Wednesday. Some other guys can argue until Friday or Saturday.

[ChampionTexan]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

I heard an interesting stat on the radio this morning. Only three current coaches in the NFL that have two or more years experience have losing records: Norv Turner, Marvin Lewis, and Gary Kubiak. Only one of them have never been the playoffs.

Mangini, Chan Gailey both under .500. Cable and Singeltary too (the two years includes their interim time).

[Rey]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Right now, things are looking as if you guys were right, & we should have parted ways last year.

But the season isn't over yet.

Personally, I'm not in the group that wanted him gone last year.

I thought Kubiak had this team on the right track. I thought that this would be the off-season that we would see a noticeable difference in how this team plays.

I was wrong. The talent has gotten better, but they still play weak. They are still making the same mistakes. They still look over matched too often.

I hope Kubiak does well this season, but if he doesn't I definitely want him gone. It's just getting tiresome.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

How many players have been ruined because of too many, too frequent coaching changes in Detroit, Arizona, Tampa Bay, St. Louis, New Orleans, etc...

It's not the coaching changes, but the coaching selections (and the team management) that have set these franchises back.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by Rey

Personally, I'm not in the group that wanted him gone last year.

I thought Kubiak had this team on the right track. I thought that this would be the off-season that we would see a noticeable difference in how this team plays.

I was wrong. The talent has gotten better, but they still play weak. They are still making the same mistakes. They still look over matched too often.

I hope Kubiak does well this season, but if he doesn't I definitely want him gone. It's just getting tiresome.

I was all Kubiak-Kool-Aid until the MNF game against the Titans last year.
From that point forward, I began to closely and objectively scrutinize
everything he's done with this team.

I saw a lot of things that
looked like progress (2 non-losing seasons, and a 9-7 record; the
best passing attack in the NFL; two NFL DROY's; 3 Probowlers in one
draft (2006.)

However, I started to notice WHO we would lose to. It was ALWAYS
playoff-bound teams who looked to beat the snot out of anybody in
their way (8-22 against winning teams; 8-18 against the AFC South.)

WE were NEVER such a team. This trend continued through
the rest of 2009, and to my disappointment, has been the ENTIRE STORY
for the 2010 season.

Kubiak should spare us all, and resign at the end of the year. It's 2010,
and I'm STILL hearing him utter the phrase: "It's really hard to win in this
league." He's even got his PLAYERS SAYING IT.

Leader of men? That's not Kubiak.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by spurstexanstros

so last time the soapers got what they wanted and richard smith was fired and now the defense is worse off....the same soapers now want Kubiak gone for what a chance(thats it a chance) to aim for Cowher when more than likely get a dennis green type...


Kubiak has improved this team every year he has been here and you want to get rid of him...the logic of some on this board escapes me.

Are you that much of a dumbass?? Really?? These Kubiak haters are the know all, be all of football... Bow down before the one you serve. Asshat!

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by spurstexanstros

so last time the soapers got what they wanted and richard smith was fired and now the defense is worse off....

Remorse over the Richard Smith firing? Really? Wow.

Remorse over the Frank Bush promotion I would understand.