The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

How many more years of this must we endure? There are many
Mike Tomlins and Todd Haleys waiting for an opportunity. Hell,
just look at Tampa Bay. We're wasting time when we know
what we've got just ain't good enough.

So now you're telling me that Todd Haley is a good coach? That Raheem Morris(?) is a good coach?

This is based on what, have they won Super Bowls like Tomlin that buys them some cred? The Mike Tomlin good coach that took a Super Bowl team to 9-7 & behind the Texans in tie breakers?

You've seen Kubiak put this team together from scratch... You may not like it, but I don't see how you can deny a consistent 8-8 is better than what we were before he got here. Like I said, I can understand you not liking that, but what has Raheem Morris & Tod Haley done that makes them "good coaches" or even worthy of the opportunity they were given?

Obviously you are using something other than past history, because neither has any.

Obviously you are using something other than current W-L record, because ours is right there with theirs. Don't tell me stats all of a sudden mean something now.

Don't you even want to wait & see how TB does against Atl & NO before you start singing Raheem Morris praises?

Todd Haley??

Really?

Wow........

[Grams]

Originally Posted by Brisco_County

You know who else has a team full of young, under-developed talent? The Patriots. And they're 6-1.

But they have a proven head coach that has taken them to the Super Bowl - more than once.

Ours has proven that he can take this team to .500. That does not get you to the playoffs much less the Super Bowl.

If we end up at .500 again - he needs to go. At 9-7 he still needs to go. If we end up at the bottom of the AFC South - he needs to go.

I have been a supporter, but Monday night's game did me in.

[Trail.Blazr]

Originally Posted by Grams

But they have a proven head coach that has taken them to the Super Bowl - more than once.

Ours has proven that he can take this team to .500. That does not get you to the playoffs much less the Super Bowl.

If we end up at .500 again - he needs to go. At 9-7 he still needs to go. If we end up at the bottom of the AFC South - he needs to go.

I have been a supporter, but Monday night's game did me in.

Ditto. For the first time ever, I'm flying the pink soap now. He's arguably not the full reason for mediocrity, but his position is the one held accountable.

I'm convinced he could drive the Steelers to 8-8.

[Double Barrel]

I heard an interesting stat on the radio this morning. Only three current coaches in the NFL that have two or more years experience have losing records: Norv Turner, Marvin Lewis, and Gary Kubiak. Only one of them have never been the playoffs.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

So now you're telling me that Todd Haley is a good coach? That Raheem Morris(?) is a good coach?

This is based on what, have they won Super Bowls like Tomlin that buys them some cred? The Mike Tomlin good coach that took a Super Bowl team to 9-7 & behind the Texans in tie breakers?

You've seen Kubiak put this team together from scratch... You may not like it, but I don't see how you can deny a consistent 8-8 is better than what we were before he got here. Like I said, I can understand you not liking that, but what has Raheem Morris & Tod Haley done that makes them "good coaches" or even worthy of the opportunity they were given?

Obviously you are using something other than past history, because neither has any.

Obviously you are using something other than current W-L record, because ours is right there with theirs. Don't tell me stats all of a sudden mean something now.

Don't you even want to wait & see how TB does against Atl & NO before you start singing Raheem Morris praises?

Todd Haley??

Really?

Wow........

I'm tellin you all those coaches have accomplished more in THEIR first
two seasons, than Kubiak has in FIVE. Add Mike Smith to that list.

[gary]

This debate is tiredless and pointless.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by gary

This debate is tiredless and pointless.

But it will keep going and going and going. People have to prove how smart they are.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by gary

This debate is tiredless and pointless.

This is a thread where people come to vent. When Kubiak stops giving
us reasons, then the thread will die.

[Brando]

Originally Posted by TexCanada

All this arguing, while fun, is extremely redundant. Basically everybody is on the same page that if Kubes doesn't perform well for the rest of the season then he is out the door. Even his strongest supporters are getting on board with this idea. All we can do now is cheer our team on and hope that somehow we manage to reach the playoffs. Go Texans!

That's how I feel!

[VTexan]

Originally Posted by gary

This debate is tiredless and pointless.

Then don't read it.


Problem solved.

Originally Posted by DexmanC

This is a thread where people come to vent. When Kubiak stops giving
us reasons, then the thread will die.

Originally Posted by VTexan

Then don't read it.


Problem solved.

Exactly. I really don't understand why people have the need to even come in here and comment if they can't stand the thread so much. So what if it pops up on the newest posts. Just see it and go onto the next thread you are interested in.

Sure, the arguments may be tiresome, and I admit I get a bit tired of it too. But I can't blame people for wanting a place to come vent their frustrations. It is depressing being 9 years in and still looking for our first playoff appearance. It is frustrating to every year get your hopes up and think this is the year and that maybe finally Kubiak has put it all together and the constant mental lapses, poor clock management, strange substitutions, and head scratching game planning will be over with and we will look like a professional organization, but then the same things continue to happen. It is like being stuck in Groundhog Day living the same day over and over and over again.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Ckw5814

Exactly. I really don't understand why people have the need to even come in here and comment if they can't stand the thread so much. So what if it pops up on the newest posts. Just see it and go onto the next thread you are interested in.

Sure, the arguments may be tiresome, and I admit I get a bit tired of it too. But I can't blame people for wanting a place to come vent their frustrations. It is depressing being 9 years in and still looking for our first playoff appearance. It is frustrating to every year get your hopes up and think this is the year and that maybe finally Kubiak has put it all together and the constant mental lapses, poor clock management, strange substitutions, and head scratching game planning will be over with and we will look like a professional organization, but then the same things continue to happen. It is like being stuck in Groundhog Day living the same day over and over and over again.

Because there are 15 others where people whine like little girls.

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Because there are 15 others where people whine like little girls.

Well, I agree with that but this seems like the more suitable thread for the people to "whine like little girls." After all, it is labeled "The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread" and what do you know? People in this thread are talking about how they don't like Kubiak!

Should the constant "whining" be limited mostly to this thread? Sure, I can go with that.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Ckw5814

Well, I agree with that but this seems like the more suitable thread for the people to "whine like little girls." After all, it is labeled "The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread" and what do you know? People in this thread are talking about how they don't like Kubiak!

Should the constant "whining" be limited mostly to this thread? Sure, I can go with that.

There are how many threads dedicated to Kubiak? Even threads that don't start off that way wind up that way... It's tired and it's boring.

I get that people want to vent and that's groovy. I vented. I wasn't any happier with this past week's performance than anyone else. That poor performance is on both coaches and players alike, I get that...

But's it Thursday... time to move on and think about San Diego coming here.

[Thorn]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Because there are 15 others where people whine like little girls.

So, if they wore dresses, would you pay closer attention? LOL

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Thorn

So, if they wore dresses, would you pay closer attention? LOL

Would they have hairy legs?

[JB]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Would they have hairy legs?

Are they french?

[FirstTexansFan]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Would they have hairy legs?

I shaved my legs

[Hervoyel]

I've given it some thought in the past day or two and I think I'm more in the "BURN KUBIAK AT THE STAKE" crowd. In fact I think I might start that thread. A loss at home against San Diego will fill my ranks with supporters and fellow advocates of human sacrifice to stop the losing and miserable football.

[Thorn]

Originally Posted by FirstTexansFan

I shaved my legs

We really didn't what to know that!