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Old 08-28-2005   #1
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Let's look at the newcomers on defense for now...

Morlon Greenwood - High dollar free agent that has gone 2 out of 3 games without recording a single tackle or assist. Has not been the playmaker that was advertised.

Phillip Buchanon - Hasn't given up any big plays and has not made any big plays. Looked terrible returning punts.

Lewis Sanders - Virtually invisible unless he's making mistakes.

Travis Johnson - More penalties than tackles this preseason.


The best free agent on the defensive side of the ball has been Frank Chamberlin and this guy probably won't even make the team.

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CC BROWN - PLAYING PRETTY GOOD

R WALKER COULD BE ON THE BUBBLE

PATICK = PHILLIP ????
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CC BROWN - PLAYING PRETTY GOOD

R WALKER COULD BE ON THE BUBBLE

PATICK = PHILLIP ????
CC has played very well. Only 1 tackle in the last game though. SS in a 3-4 are counted on to make a lot of tackles.

Walker has been with the team since 2002. He'll make the team over Sanders with special teams ability.
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Morlon Greenwood - I guess he has a good agent.

Phillip Buchanon - Was rumored to make big plays, both positive and negative. Neither is true. On punts, runs really fast--right into the first available defender.

Lewis Sanders - Way too much limelight, except when he's not screwing up.

Travis Johnson - We wanted aggression. What can we say?


The best free agent on the defensive side of the ball has been Frank Chamberlain and this guy probably won't even make the team.

Who is Frank Chamberlain?

I want to say something to put a positive spin on this, but I can't think of anything right now. :brickwall

Oh, we can score on kickoffs.
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He has more tackles than all of the guys mentioned above... combined.
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Reggie Swinton has shown some worth atleast. I don't really know why he didn't make the list over Lewis Sanders.
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Reggie Swinton has shown some worth atleast. I don't really know why he didn't make the list over Lewis Sanders.
He's considered an offensive player.

And he's probably been the best player on the entire team this preseason.
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Riley, swinton, kasper, and morency have shown some upside. i'll wait ntil the season to start to judge the rest.
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Riley, swinton, kasper, and morency have shown some upside. i'll wait ntil the season to start to judge the rest.
and mathis. man, i thought he could'nt return punts.
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Why is everone expecting the new players to play like pro bowlers in the preseason when it doesn't matter and when the coaches use an ultra watered down playbook. When we drafted TJ we all knew that in our system he wouldn't be putting up huge numbers, but all of a sudden he is suppose to be the next Richard Seymor. CHILL OUT!
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and mathis. man, i thought he could'nt return punts.

ah, i forgot mathis.
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Frank Chamberlain is no joke. He was a titan for a few years. It's hilarious that the colts keep whining about having no MLB, and he's probably better than anything they have. Guy is a step slow but he is a tackling machine.
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Frank Chamberlain is no joke. He was a titan for a few years. It's hilarious that the colts keep whining about having no MLB, and he's probably better than anything they have. Guy is a step slow but he is a tackling machine.

Sounds like a cheaper Jamie Sharper.
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Let's look at the newcomers on defense for now...

Morlon Greenwood - High dollar free agent that has gone 2 out of 3 games without recording a single tackle or assist. Has not been the playmaker that was advertised.

Phillip Buchanon - Hasn't given up any big plays and has not made any big plays. Looked terrible returning punts.

Lewis Sanders - Virtually invisible unless he's making mistakes.

Travis Johnson - More penalties than tackles this preseason.


The best free agent on the defensive side of the ball has been Frank Chamberlin and this guy probably won't even make the team.
I know pbuc got burned in one game, but we were holding too much on punt returns or he would have real nice average right now. He is still getting comfortable with his ne team.

TJ is a rookie. He will learn soon enough.

Maybe the reason Greenwood is not getting tackles is that the opposing team would rather run against Wong and Babin than Peek and Greenwood. Just a theory.

Lewis Sanders. You may be right about his play. The real question I have is the relevance of bringing up his name. Is he going to getting alot of playing time. He might be our 4th or 5th CB. I sure hope we don't here alot about him, because that would mean one of our better players is hurt.

I will reserve judgement on the individual play one the season starts.
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So ... You agree they stink ....for the time being ?
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F-minus67, nobody is expecting these guys to play like pro bowlers but they should be expected to show something. They are high-profile players paid to produce. Is it too much to ask for them to show something... anything?

bigtexan8, nobody has "freaked out", merely pointed out that these guys have underperformed so far. Search the post thouroughly and you'll find that "we're not that good" and/or "we should have drafted someone else" simple puke remarks are not part of its contents.

Sometimes the truth hurts fellas. It's just a game. Don't take your anger out on people who point out things that the players/coaches/front office are not doing right.

As far as making half-intelligent or moronic statements goes... you may want to proofread your posts before submitting.

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Can we make it to at least one game (real) before we start evaluating these folks this way. Pre-season is a practice game only. We used to call practice games scrimmages... that means.. who cares... Now when a real games start.. so will they.
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fickle fans every team has em.

OK Carr had a bad game, its pre season I really thought Murphy was stepping up to be the starting TE, that INT was his fault not Carr's but he gets tagged. the blocking scheme seems to be better but Carr still lacks targets teams still can focus on AJ & until the TE can step up and integrate into the offense the Texans will be forced to run the ball. Its time to focus on winning games instead of individual numbers. teams will stack the box to force the Texans to throw, Palmer has to develop more picks & screens underneath to attack seams, throw in the proverbial bomb to Mathis or Bradford once or twice & hope the defense plays as a cohesive unit.

That being said pre-season is for developing conditioning, working on your foundation and evaulate rookies & free agents. its fair to say the draft class is average not great and the free agents are about the same, but they have added some much needed depth & hopefully injurys will not be a huge factor any longer. the cap structure is in place and all our key players are signed. as the Texans head into the regular season they are average at best, but this year if the talent develops they have a chance to be better than that.
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Why is everone expecting the new players to play like pro bowlers in the preseason when it doesn't matter and when the coaches use an ultra watered down playbook. When we drafted TJ we all knew that in our system he wouldn't be putting up huge numbers, but all of a sudden he is suppose to be the next Richard Seymor. CHILL OUT!
Couldnt have said it better. The 3-4 dline is supose to tie up blockers, which hes been doing pretty good. And Morency gives us a spell RB with big play potential if he will learn to not run strait for the sideline.
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