The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Texan4Ever

As much as players may despise him, I would love for Gruden to become the next HC for our team. He can yell and scream all I want and he's proven to get results.

I think it's pretty obvious you wants something other than results.

We're 4-2 leading the division.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

What he has shown us for all these years is that he doesn't get this team amped up to play two full halves consistently, and this is a team that plays either really HOT or really COLD from quarter to quarter.

I honestly think we make more of this than there really is. The other team get's paid too.. they want to win as well, but regardless what happens, Kubiak is always on the back end. If we blow someone out in the first half, but the other team makes a second half comeback, Kubiak is playing conservative & can't get his team to play for 4 Qtrs. If we stumble in the first half, but come out on fire in the second, He can't get his team amped up to start a game.

Last year, the only thing that mattered was W-L.... stats didn't mean anything. there were no moral victories. This year, we're 4-2 half the team playing injured, we lose our MLB (the QB of the defense), we get a win...... but it ain't good enough.

[bckey]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

We're 4-2 leading the division.

Come on TK. I know you can see how desperate the Texans situation is right now even at 4-2 and leading the division. They just had to score 35 points to beat a Chiefs team that is a run first team. It won't happen like that all year. The Texans defense is horrible and they alone will keep this team from going anywhere. The better teams will exploit our weaknesses to embarrassment. It is great to be happy today but we still have to look at the big picture.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by GNTLEWOLF

My question is,"Who do they beat to get the six wins?"
Don't think for one minute that the colts won't be ready with answers to beat this team as will Jacksonville-twice, and Tennessee-twice. That looks like 5 losses to me and that is in our division. My feeling is that we can stick a fork in this team cause they're done. But Kubiak will get his contract extended again cause, shucks, he's a great guy.

Why can't we wait two weeks before we start this?

Just two weeks?

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

I don't understand what he can show us at this point. What can he show us? <snip>

This franchise and it's fans need higher expectations and that's the biggest problem.

It has nothing to do with fan expectations. The team extended him, and Kubiak has built this team into what it is. So Kubiak can get up there and talk about how Earl Mitchell is the type of DT they want, or that they think they'll be fine at the S position, or that they need yet another TE instead of help on D. But show me. If he actually thinks all that, then he needs to win with it.

Moreover, firing the coach in mid-season is just flushing the season down the tubes. There's still a chance that they can make the playoffs with a terrible defense, although that chance seems to be diminishing each week. And even if they do make it, they'll get their asses handed to them. But if you fire Kubiak in mid-season, the team is finished.

So start warming up the interview skills for the off-season and just hope in the meantime. It's all we can do.

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I honestly think we make more of this than there really is. The other team get's paid too.. they want to win as well, but regardless what happens, Kubiak is always on the back end. If we blow someone out in the first half, but the other team makes a second half comeback, Kubiak is playing conservative & can't get his team to play for 4 Qtrs. If we stumble in the first half, but come out on fire in the second, He can't get his team amped up to start a game.

Last year, the only thing that mattered was W-L.... stats didn't mean anything. there were no moral victories. This year, we're 4-2 half the team playing injured, we lose our MLB (the QB of the defense), we get a win...... but it ain't good enough.

Sorry, but I'm calling BS. The Texans consistently prove one thing - that they make the other team look really great. New Texans marketing slogan should be "Reliant Stadium: Where Stars Are Made".

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Why can't we wait two weeks before we start this?

Just two weeks?

Certainly. As long as we don't have to endure 2 weeks of "Kubiak has the team moving in the right direction" threads.

[TheMatrix31]

These posts are ****ing absurd.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by bckey

Come on TK. I know you can see how desperate the Texans situation is right now even at 4-2 and leading the division. They just had to score 35 points to beat a Chiefs team that is a run first team. It won't happen like that all year. The Texans defense is horrible and they alone will keep this team from going anywhere. The better teams will exploit our weaknesses to embarrassment. It is great to be happy today but we still have to look at the big picture.

The HC told you what the plan is. We're going with this young secondary, come hell or high water. He believes in them, & I believe he very well should. I'm loving Glover Quin in his second year. If Jackson can play to that level, we'll be set. I have faith that Jackson will. He's looking really good to me.

Gary believes in the guys we have. He believes they will get better. & we're 4-2.

[Goatcheese]

Hmm...

We're 4-2, 1st place in the division and undefeated in the AFC.

It's all on Kubiak.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by GNTLEWOLF

Dex I got your point. I was just trying to imagine where this team as it stands now, will dig up six wins. I know that you weren't implying that this team could even get six wins.
As I see it we might beat Denver and possibly the Chargers the way they are playing.

The Chargers just got their All-Pro left tackle back from a holdout, and
their #1 receiver, Vincent Jackson, is expected to report to the team
from a holdout. So, by the time the Chargers play us, their offense
should be "full tilt."

[Wolf]

Bush needs to go , however, I don't know who they could replace him with ...

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by Goatcheese

Hmm...

We're 4-2, 1st place in the division and undefeated in the AFC.

It's all on Kubiak.

Yep. And if Kubiak is as willing as you are to ignore in victory what he would not ignore in defeat, then I guess we'll see where that gets him, huh?

Like I said, this is his make-or-break year. Regardless, his decision-making has not improved this team's chances to win.

[Goatcheese]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

Yep. And if Kubiak is as willing as you are to ignore in victory what he would not ignore in defeat, then I guess we'll see where that gets him, huh?

Like I said, this is his make-or-break year. Regardless, his decision-making has not improved this team's chances to win.

My post will be the same no matter what happens.

If we end up 4-12 it will look like this:

Hmm...

We're 4-12, last place in the division and got our asses kicked in the AFC.

It's all on Kubiak.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

Sorry, but I'm calling BS. The Texans consistently prove one thing - that they make the other team look really great. New Texans marketing slogan should be "Reliant Stadium: Where Stars Are Made".

I'm only watching the game right now, but so far I don't have any huge problems with the game. I did listen to the whole thing on the radio, but the first half looked pretty good to me.

If I remember the broadcast pretty well, the offense moved the ball a little, the great kick-off returner Vonta Leach got us in position to score 7 in the second qtr, & we gave up a late last minute TD.

No big deal, happens all the time.

Offense looked bad in the 3rd Qtr.. defense looked really bad in the 3rd Qtr (we lost Demeco early in the 3rd).

We scored 21 points in the 4th... if it were the NYGiants scoring 21 points in a single Qtr, it's excellent frek'n coaching. If it's the Texans, it's blind luck.

remember, stats are meaningless. Ws & Ls are the only thing that matters. You want to ***** about Kubiak losing 8 games this year, let's wait 'till he does.

that's all I'm saying.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Certainly. As long as we don't have to endure 2 weeks of "Kubiak has the team moving in the right direction" threads.

Man.... Kubiak sure has this team moving in the right direction. Never give up, play till the whistle blows.... just do it. We must protect this house, it's in you........

yadda, yadda, yadda.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Certainly. As long as we don't have to endure 2 weeks of "Kubiak has the team moving in the right direction" threads.

Yes. You're right. There WILL be balance. LOL

[Showtime100]

The way I see it Kubiak is the head coach of the Texans and will be for the foreseeable future. Granted, the foreseeable future in the NFL is nor far but this is the deal right now.

I was disappointed when Kubiak's contract was upped but from that moment on all I can really do is ***** about draw plays on 3rd and 20. I think right now firing Kubes would do more harm than good.

If there is no Week 18 for this team I'm sure I will have plenty to say but for now this the hand dealt and so I will just have to live with it and hope for the best.

[wagonhed]

I mentioned this elsewhere and got no responses. I wonder if anyone else has noticed that between our Head Coach, DC, and OC, they have less than 6 years of experience in that coaching spot. Kubes has 4, Bush has 1, Dennison has 0.

Ultimately, in the NFL, you are what your record says you are. Still, last year we should have won a couple games we lost (Colts at home, Jags at home). This year, we have won one we should have lost (Skins) and very nearly another (Chiefs).

Here's what I'm saying. Last year we got unlucky in going 9-7. This year we are damn lucky to be 4-2 and the way we are playing right now, I won't be surprised to see us miss the playoffs again.

I don't think Kubiak should go because of where we are right now, but because of where I expect us to be in 10 weeks. Actually I think Kubiak has gotten as a HC, but his coaching team is abysmal, and that's what matters.

[Thorn]

4-2 is good, but there will be two other AFC South teams with the same record after Monday night. The team in last place will be 3-3. This is the year the Texans HAVE to win in the division, or they'll miss the playoffs again.