The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[kiwitexansfan]

I see the pink soap is back.

There are only two types of coaches, ones that have been fired or those who are about to be.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by Mr. White

The record isn't all that impressive considering who we beat. I expect us to get embarrassed again when we play the Ravens and Jets. The fact of the matter is that he's had 5 years and hasn't been able to put a physical team together yet except when he's playing the weak sisters.

Really? So Indy and the Redskins are weak sisters?

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

Really? So Indy and the Redskins are weak sisters?

Do we really know how good the Colts are this season? Those two games seem like ancient history after the last 2 home debacles. With a 3-2 record, it's absurd to consider firing Kubiak in season. But, is it too soon to question whether Kubiak and his coaching style will ever lead this team to the playoffs and a championship? I don't think so.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by Lucky

Do we really know how good the Colts are this season? Those two games seem like ancient history after the last 2 home debacles. With a 3-2 record, it's absurd to consider firing Kubiak in season. But, is it too soon to question whether Kubiak and his coaching style will ever lead this team to the playoffs and a championship? I don't think so.

I get questioning Kubiak which is why I said nothing about him. But I hate when people get all silly and make whack assertions to support their arguments. The Colts have had 12 or more wins the last 7 years straight and have been in the playoffs 10 of the last 11 years. I think the idea they are suddenly a "weak sister" is absurd especially as an assertion of a fan from a team who just beat them for the 2nd time ever. Washington doesn't look like a behemoth but is leading the division and doesn't look like a weak sister either.

[Texan_Bill]

Not to mention that Oakland is better than people will admit.


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Pull out the pink soap, pull out the pink soap!!!

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

Yeah, I'm sure you love Kubiak a whole lot, just enough not to ask for him to be fired after 4 games. You gave him 5, good for you, lol...

Firing coaches mid-season works in baseball and sometimes basketball because the seasons last so long. In the NFL, there's really no point in removing a head coach mid-season because there won't be enough time for him to change anything significantly enough to turn the team around.




The team is 3-2, so how about waiting until they have a losing record before saying the Texans can't win with Kubiak?

Do a search for all of my posts and tell me where, and when, I said Kubiak should be fired in the middle of the season.

Firing a coach in the middle of the season is a terrible idea, and rarely works. I have always argued that we should not have extended him. And, I am currently arguing that IF - repeat IF - we continue down the same consistent line of bull****, he should be fired AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

IF - repeat IF - he turns this team around and gets us to the playoffs, then, I will have been wrong about him, and will admit it.

[Second Honeymoon]

I have my doubts about kubiak but we are 3-2
They have laid some turfs this year but if we can get a win versus KC in our own stadium we will be 4-2 going into a bye with Duane brown coming back and giving 15 days of recovery to the ailing

If they go into the bye at .500 with a trip to Indy on MNF...well it will be hard to find much optimism

This is pretty much sink or swim Sunday
1-3 at home would be a big bad omen for me

Trust me, if they keep failing i will be grabbing the pink soap real quick like. Didn't I start this thread anyway? jk ;(

Originally Posted by Second Honeymoon

I have my doubts about kubiak but we are 3-2
They have laid some turfs this year but if we can get a win versus KC in our own stadium we will be 4-2 going into a bye with Duane brown coming back and giving 15 days of recovery to the ailing

If they go into the bye at .500 with a trip to Indy on MNF...well it will be hard to find much optimism

This is pretty much sink or swim Sunday
1-3 at home would be a big bad omen for me

Trust me, if they keep failing i will be grabbing the pink soap real quick like. Didn't I start this thread anyway? jk ;(

Dude, did someone hack your account or something?

The change in your posts is nothing short of miraculous. Is this still "Doug from the Woodlands?"

[GP]

No football in 2011 anyways, so I say let Kubiak stay through 2011. LOL.

I still think Gary Kubiak has this idea that he can build an offense and stock it with the right players (which he has, to some degree) and that it will beat any team's defense because of the superiority of the system he employs.

He just has an Ostrich mentality, the habit of sticking his head into a hole in the ground instead of doing something that will actually HELP everyone around him.

I don't think he recovers from this. I think the team, overall, has lost confidence in him as the head coach. I don't think they will fight for him like they normally did at the end of each previous season.

And if this "team" is taking games off and essentially choosing when to excel and when to sandbag it, then shame on them all. And shame on Gurry Kubiak for not doing something about it.

Man, it is such a kick in the nuts to be a fan of an NFL team who is either horrible and cannot win or is a faker and breaks your heart consistently when it looks like they can do something meaningful (but bombs out on you instead).

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Ckw5814

Dude, did someone hack your account or something?

The change in your posts is nothing short of miraculous. Is this still "Doug from the Woodlands?"

This

I dont think he should be fired this season.

But I think we can all agree he shouldn't be signed to an extention either.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by Second Honeymoon

I have my doubts about kubiak but we are 3-2
They have laid some turfs this year but if we can get a win versus KC in our own stadium we will be 4-2 going into a bye with Duane brown coming back and giving 15 days of recovery to the ailing

If they go into the bye at .500 with a trip to Indy on MNF...well it will be hard to find much optimism

This is pretty much sink or swim Sunday
1-3 at home would be a big bad omen for me

Trust me, if they keep failing i will be grabbing the pink soap real quick like. Didn't I start this thread anyway? jk ;(

3-2 record, upon closer examination, is a prayer away from being 1-4.
Beat the Colts. Good win

Beat the Redskins. Required multiple miracles on both sides of the ball & special teams.

Got beat by the Cowboys. They were and are now WINLESS against everybody BUT The Texans

Beat the Raiders. Let them back into the game, and almost got beat.

Got embarrassed by the Giants. Coughlin and his coaching staff made
Kubiak and HIS team look like amateurs in ALL PHASES.

They've only gotten ONE 60-minute win against a good team, and I don't
remember the last time they beat a good team within the first
12 game window of ANY season under Kubiak. The Texans have
not given the fans any evidence they'll be able to survive the gauntlet
of games in November.

After November, we pretty much know who's going to the playoffs. All that's
left to be determined will be the seeding. The Texans bust be at least
7-5 by the end of November, to be in the running.

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

3-2 record, upon closer examination, is a prayer away from being 1-4.

This is true for many NFL teams, and not just the Texans.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

This is true for many NFL teams, and not just the Texans.

They still got me askin' "Who dey beat?"

Starting this week, they'll have to beat a LOT of reputable teams
to go to the playoffs. They must finish the season no worse
than 7-4 over the next eleven games.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

3-2 record, upon closer examination, is a prayer away from being 1-4.

What do you think about the 3-2 Greenbay Packers?
Wins: Philly, Buffalo, Detroit
Losses: Chicago, Washington

What do you think about the 3-2 Indianapolis Colts?
Wins: Giants, Broncos, Chiefs
Losses: Texans, Jaguars

Or the 3-2 New Orleans Saints
Wins: Minnesota, 49ers, Carolina
Losses: Atlanta, Arizona

What do you think about the 2-3 San Diego Chargers
Wins: Jacksonville, Arizona
Losses: Chiefs, Seattle, Oakland

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

What do you think about the 3-2 Greenbay Packers?
Wins: Philly, Buffalo, Detroit
Losses: Chicago, Washington

What do you think about the 3-2 Indianapolis Colts?
Wins: Giants, Broncos, Chiefs
Losses: Texans, Jaguars

Or the 3-2 New Orleans Saints
Wins: Minnesota, 49ers, Carolina
Losses: Atlanta, Arizona

What do you think about the 2-3 San Diego Chargers
Wins: Jacksonville, Arizona
Losses: Chiefs, Seattle, Oakland

I'm talking about the Texans, and Kubiak.
Each one of the head coaches of the teams you've
mentioned have been to postseason within the last
five years. Kubiak has not, so his margin for error
is NIL.

[Texan_Bill]

Some of you people!!!


Including, Vista, and Brakos!!

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

I'm talking about the Texans, and Kubiak.
Each one of the head coaches of the teams you've
mentioned have been to postseason within the last
five years. Kubiak has not, so his margin for error
is NIL.

So if Kubiak is doing as well as they are, he must be on the right track...

Cool.

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

So if Kubiak is doing as well as they are, he must be on the right track...

Cool.

We shouldn't have to use the word "if" when referencing Kubiak.
When the word "if" surfaces during a discussion about Kubiak, take
"if" as a sign Kubiak is not meetin expectations.

[JB]

Originally Posted by DexmanC

We shouldn't have to use the word "if" when referencing Kubiak.
When the word "if" surfaces during a discussion about Kubiak, take
"if" as a sign Kubiak is not meetin expectations.

Ya know, you are starting ( or maybe have been for awhile) coming across as a perfectionist fan. If we went 19-0, you would probably be complaining about margin of victory, or upset that we now had the last pick in the draft.

And there is nothing wrong with that...


Have you ever been escited about this team? If so, then when was the turning point? When the Texans lost on 9/15/2002?

[DexmanC]

Originally Posted by JB

Ya know, you are starting ( or maybe have been for awhile) coming across as a perfectionist fan.

Not at all. I understand Kubiak has been given more rope than any
coach in recent history, and am analyzing his progress during his *bonus*
season. Looking at the schedule, I'm seeing the *tougher* games
backloaded onto the schedule, unlike what we had in 2009. 7-4
the rest of the way, considering you'll be playing your DIRECT competition
for the Division Championship and /or AFC Wildcard in TEN of the next ELEVEN
games, gets you a playoff spot. Tiebreakers look like they're gonna be a HUGE
factor in the seedings, and the Texans play dang-near all of the teams they
need tiebreakers on head-to-head.

I'm just looking for SOMETHING, that shows me the Texans will finally
achieve a winning record in the AFC, when it hasn't happened in five
seasons.

Perfectionist? No. However, I'm not looking at the losses as numbers
only. The way the Texans played, in both losses, is what is unacceptable.
When they come out woefully unprepared, unfocused, and out-schemed,
they'd better win the game. Piss-poor performances, is what I'm posting about.
If they're gonna lose, they'd better play some good football while
doing it.