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Old 09-16-2010   #21
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Alright it's done. Both of us feel uneasy about it but we just did a trade of Rashard Mendenhall, Michael Crabtree, and Cadillac Williams for Wes Welker, Cedric Benson, and Chester Taylor.

I really feel like with Welker and Benson, I have a consistent RB as well as consistent WR. I hate giving up Mendenhall. Absolutely hate it, but I feel like I got good value and made up for a mistake I made in not drafting Welker over Crabtree.

I plan to drop Chester Taylor. Available options as backup RBs are Peyton Hillis, Fred Taylor, Kevin Faulk, Javon Ringer, and Leon Washington.

My RB depth took a bit of a hit losing Cadillac and Mendenhall, but I feel like I gained more with Welker and Benson than I lost. What are your thoughts? Also, what FA would you recommend I go after to make up for the loss of Cadillac?
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Really anxious to hear some opinions on the trade. Who do you think won and who lost? Did I give up too much? I feel like for the long haul, Benson and Mendenhall are essentially a wash as both were 2nd-3rd round picks. I guess the major thing this trade says is I really placed my eggs in Arian's basket. If he fails, it is fairly likely my team fails. Welker is the icing, but I had to lose a great backup in case of injury in Cadillac.

Any suggestions on who I should grab on the waiver wire? Obviously, Brandon Jackson is gone. My RB core looks like this: Foster, Charles, Benson, & Spiller. Do you think I should keep Chester Taylor or get someone like Peyton Hillis, Fred Taylor, & Leon Washington. Anyone I should be on the lookout for?
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I probably would have kept Mendenhall, right now he is all Pitts got, then with cheesburger comes back his touches will decrease but his yards per will increase. Welker is a plus so he may end of saving you, a consistent WR is worth his weight in gold. you have plenty of depth @ RB too.
My focus would be to upgrade QB now
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I probably would have kept Mendenhall, right now he is all Pitts got, then with cheesburger comes back his touches will decrease but his yards per will increase. Welker is a plus so he may end of saving you, a consistent WR is worth his weight in gold. you have plenty of depth @ RB too.
My focus would be to upgrade QB now
I have Philip Rivers and Kyle Orton. Don't feel too bad about my QBs. Only position I was weak at was #2 WR. I gave up a #1 RB to get a #2 RB (Benson) and #2 WR.

The thing that got me with Mendenhall is the stat I read about how terrible of a day he really had until he broke off that one big run they have been constantly showing on ESPN. Without that, he would have had a terrible day. I felt like this was a chance to buy low (Benson) and sell high (Mendenhall).

Still think I should upgrade at QB?
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Still think I should upgrade at QB?
I think you are set at QB. Rivers is a great QB, and Orton isn't too bad. He definitely won't be losing his starting spot to Tebow anytime soon so you should be ok with him if Rivers ever gets injured. Plus, what would you have to give up to get a QB that may be marginally better than Rivers? Not worth it IMO.
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I have Philip Rivers and Kyle Orton. Don't feel too bad about my QBs. Only position I was weak at was #2 WR. I gave up a #1 RB to get a #2 RB (Benson) and #2 WR.

The thing that got me with Mendenhall is the stat I read about how terrible of a day he really had until he broke off that one big run they have been constantly showing on ESPN. Without that, he would have had a terrible day. I felt like this was a chance to buy low (Benson) and sell high (Mendenhall).

Still think I should upgrade at QB?
I like to carry three QB's if possible. top tier #1 Aaron Rodgers. third level like a Matt Ryan then for good measure off waivers biggest surprise like a healthy Matt Hasselback. that gives you various combinations plus if you have a flex option that includes QB you can use the top two in best match-ups for maximum points. but hey that's just me you do what you want.
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I think you are set at QB. Rivers is a great QB, and Orton isn't too bad. He definitely won't be losing his starting spot to Tebow anytime soon so you should be ok with him if Rivers ever gets injured. Plus, what would you have to give up to get a QB that may be marginally better than Rivers? Not worth it IMO.
Rivers has talent but cries too much for my taste. Orton is one knock away from season ending status, his durability is always a question?
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I like to carry three QB's if possible. top tier #1 Aaron Rodgers. third level like a Matt Ryan then for good measure off waivers biggest surprise like a healthy Matt Hasselback. that gives you various combinations plus if you have a flex option that includes QB you can use the top two in best match-ups for maximum points. but hey that's just me you do what you want.
No need for 3 QBs in my league. We can only play 1 QB a week and cannot use one as a flex option. That is only left open for WR and RB.

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Rivers has talent but cries too much for my taste. Orton is one knock away from season ending status, his durability is always a question?
Rivers may cry a river, but you can't knock his play, especially in fantasy. The guy has been a top 4-8 fantasy football QB the last 4 years or so. I simply continues to put up numbers. Great QB IMO.


Anyway, back on topic. What do you guys think of my trade? Obviously, I should probably drop Chester Taylor as he provides me little in the rushing game. So my choices on the waiver wire, as Peyton Hillis already got picked up, are Fred Taylor, Javon Ringer, John Kuhn, Julius Jones, Leon Washington, Brian Westbrook, Laurence Maroney, Jerrious Norwood, Mike Bell, Kevin Smith, Kareem Huggins, Earnest Graham, and Tashard Choice. Slim pickings I'd say. I am leaning towards Fred Taylor.
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No need for 3 QBs in my league. We can only play 1 QB a week and cannot use one as a flex option. That is only left open for WR and RB.



Rivers may cry a river, but you can't knock his play, especially in fantasy. The guy has been a top 4-8 fantasy football QB the last 4 years or so. I simply continues to put up numbers. Great QB IMO.


Anyway, back on topic. What do you guys think of my trade? Obviously, I should probably drop Chester Taylor as he provides me little in the rushing game. So my choices on the waiver wire, as Peyton Hillis already got picked up, are Fred Taylor, Javon Ringer, John Kuhn, Julius Jones, Leon Washington, Brian Westbrook, Laurence Maroney, Jerrious Norwood, Mike Bell, Kevin Smith, Kareem Huggins, Earnest Graham, and Tashard Choice. Slim pickings I'd say. I am leaning towards Fred Taylor.
I would go with Taylor for now. Until he gets injured he will be the starter.

edit: Just saw Leon Washington there. He might be a nice sleeper candidate.
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I would go with Taylor for now. Until he gets injured he will be the starter.

edit: Just saw Leon Washington there. He might be a nice sleeper candidate.
Already grabbed Fred Taylor. I still might drop Chester Taylor and get Leon Washington. Is he returning kicks?
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Already grabbed Fred Taylor. I still might drop Chester Taylor and get Leon Washington. Is he returning kicks?
He is returning kicks but not punts.
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Really anxious to hear some opinions on the trade. Who do you think won and who lost? Did I give up too much? I feel like for the long haul, Benson and Mendenhall are essentially a wash as both were 2nd-3rd round picks. I guess the major thing this trade says is I really placed my eggs in Arian's basket. If he fails, it is fairly likely my team fails. Welker is the icing, but I had to lose a great backup in case of injury in Cadillac.

Any suggestions on who I should grab on the waiver wire? Obviously, Brandon Jackson is gone. My RB core looks like this: Foster, Charles, Benson, & Spiller. Do you think I should keep Chester Taylor or get someone like Peyton Hillis, Fred Taylor, & Leon Washington. Anyone I should be on the lookout for?
I think you did a great job. You upgraded your WR core significantly, and only lost a little with the RB swap. Kudos.

Keep Chester Taylor. He would be a great play if Forte goes down. He can catch and run just like Forte.
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He is returning kicks but not punts.
Yeah with the 3 headed monster they are running in Seattle, I'm not sure he is the guy to pickup. As I said, I already picked up Taylor as a bit of a replacement for Cadillac but am very intrigued also by Javon Ringer (hey Chris Johnson can't stay healthy forever, right?) and Isaac Redman for the Steelers. Both guys look like they offer some potential down the road especially if injuries occur. Ringer is probably better but will only be worth anything if CJ gets hurt. Redman on the other hand is going to be the Steelers main goal line back and will definitely take some carries from Mendenhall.

I really appreciate the comments JB

Duthchman, dc txtech, where are you guys? I'm waiting for some commentary from you two. Did I really screw up with this trade? Personally, I feel pretty damn good about it, but am a little more concerned about RBs. One injury and I might be hurting unless I make some very smart early moves.
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I think you did a great job. You upgraded your WR core significantly, and only lost a little with the RB swap. Kudos.

Keep Chester Taylor. He would be a great play if Forte goes down. He can catch and run just like Forte.
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Interesting take. I guess it's not a bad idea to keep Taylor. He just seems kind of worthless to me.
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Interesting take. I guess it's not a bad idea to keep Taylor. He just seems kind of worthless to me.
Yeah, but he is going to be on the bench anyway, unless he starts getting play time. Whoever else you pick up is also going to be riding the pine on youir team.
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Yeah, but he is going to be on the bench anyway, unless he starts getting play time. Whoever else you pick up is also going to be riding the pine on youir team.
Exactly. Ckw5814 already has his starting 3 RB's. From the FA RB's he named earlier there is no reason to drop a possible fantasy stud for someone like Hillis who had a good game, but is on a crappy team.
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Exactly. Ckw5814 already has his starting 3 RB's. From the FA RB's he named earlier there is no reason to drop a possible fantasy stud for someone like Hillis who had a good game, but is on a crappy team.
But I'm not dropping a possible fantasy stud. I am dropping a likely fantasy dud (Chester Taylor) for a possible fantasy stud.

The only thing I dropped for Fred Taylor was the 49ers D, and I plan to just swap those out each week and pick up whatever the hot D is for that game.

So final verdict and I'm ready for everyone's honest, brutal truth? Did I win with this trade (Rashard Mendenhall, Michael Crabtree, and Cadillac Williams for Wes Welker, Cedric Benson, and Chester Taylor?

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QB Philip Rivers
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I think you're in a good spot. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Welker had a great game last week and he's their #2 guy, but gets lots of catches.
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I think you're in a good spot. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Welker had a great game last week and he's their #2 guy, but gets lots of catches.
Especially this week.
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I think you're in a good spot. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Welker had a great game last week and he's their #2 guy, but gets lots of catches.
Better off or should I have just stayed put with what I had?
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