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Old 08-14-2005   #121
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Actually if Wiegert is out for the season, we might have to consider him again for Wiegert's position or move others around accordingly.
I heard Carr got a hangnail. What will we do if the Hangnail won't heal. He might need to go on IR or something. The horror of it all.
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Out for the season with a high ankle sprain? I'm not a Dr., but that seems excessive don't you think?
There was some concern that surgery might be required. If so, then he would be out. Sorry, but just reporting what some others in the know have been saying. Quite, frankly I hope Wiegert is not out for the season. However, the point was made that Wade was never the same the rest of the season last year when he had the same kind of injury. The high ankle sprain generally takes a long long time to heal.........................
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A severe high ankle sprain does take a long time to heal, about 6-8 weeks. Weigert will not miss the entire season.
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ok guys i have been off in europe for 3 weeks, what the hell is going on with this guy, whats the news that i need to know?
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A severe high ankle sprain does take a long time to heal, about 6-8 weeks. Weigert will not miss the entire season.
I'm thinking Tod Wade had that injury last year and he was hobbled and
handicapped with it all season.
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I'm thinking Tod Wade had that injury last year and he was hobbled and
handicapped with it all season.
There has been a report that Wiegert has a normal ankle sprain, not a high ankle sprain. Wade did have the high ankle sprain and kept playing through it. If he had stayed out more than a week he might have come back healthier and recovered fully. Sometimes it is probably bad for the teams to let players be too gung ho.
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However, the point was made that Wade was never the same the rest of the season last year when he had the same kind of injury. ...
Never the same? How great had he been prior to the injury? It's not like he was a Pro Bowler before. Maybe Wade came back too soon, but he was as good as Todd Wade is the last 6-7 games of the season. Todd "only" gave up 2 sacks the last 7 games of the season. All in all, Wade missed 2.5 games, & probably should have missed 3.5 games.

And where did you see anything about surgery? Just after halftime, the Texans issued an injury status on Zach's that the x-rays were negative. Sunday, the prognosis was Wiegert missing 2-3 weeks. I'm not going to do a survey on the missed games due to ankle sprains (high, low, or mid), but if the Texans are saying 2-3 weeks on Wiegert, why shouldn't you & I believe them?
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Never the same? How great had he been prior to the injury? It's not like he was a Pro Bowler before. Maybe Wade came back too soon, but he was as good as Todd Wade is the last 6-7 games of the season. Todd "only" gave up 2 sacks the last 7 games of the season. All in all, Wade missed 2.5 games, & probably should have missed 3.5 games.
I don't have any proof for it, but my impression was Wade was not as dominating in run blocking for several weeks after coming back. That was something he does normally excel at.
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I don't remember the Texans running attack to be that great prior to Wade's injury late in the Viking game. The Texans put up their biggest rushing numbers in the last half of the season. I've seen the numbers that suggest the Texans were a better running team up the middle & to the left side. And that seems to go with my recollection, as most of Davis' big runs went to the left side.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that whether it was before or after the ankle injury, Wade wasn't having a banner season for run blocking. With another offseason to iron out the wrinkles of Pendry's zone blocking scheme, I expect Wade to have a better year. But I'll also say that aside from the 3-4 weeks Wade was struggling with the ankle, he was a solid pass blocker. Certainly the best on this team.
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Well to be more specific in my recollection, Wade looked one on one more physically dominant in camp, pre-season and early in the season. The unit as a whole did not look good IMO because (this may not be the actual explanation but the best I can describe it) the OL was firing off too parallel to the line of scrimmage and falling into a giant scrum pile without creating holes or sealing the cutback off. This IMO is part of what made DD and the other RB's look hesitant at times early in the season. Later in the season the line as a whole was firing off less parallel to the line, holes were opening and the RB's looked more comfortable. Wade individually and Wiegert next to him who was also being nagged by injuries, looked less physically dominant individually than before even though the result was better. But hey, that was just my impression.
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We don't want him, if we did we'd already signed him cuz noone else wants him. Remember I said in a similar thread that C. Palmer was his HC in Clev and knows plenty about him. Not to mention he's been in trouble with the law.
If you're drafting guys with some history (T.J., Morency) you may chalk it up to youth and something that might be corrected.
But you never want to bring in a 31-32 year old that has recently sparked up some more trouble, especially when they want 35 million dollars.
All Houston pro sports teams do not tolerate bad apples. Any player that gets in trouble with the law or has a bad team attitude gets dumped. Some get hired out of College but only after talking with key people associated with the player. Rockets traded 6 draft picks for a forward ( cant remember his name ) that had a bad rep out of college. And they got burned. It is revealing that they chose to take the loss rather than stick it out. Only player I can think of that we have kept through troubleing times is Pastorini.
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We don't want him, if we did we'd already signed him cuz noone else wants him. Remember I said in a similar thread that C. Palmer was his HC in Clev and knows plenty about him. Not to mention he's been in trouble with the law.
If you're drafting guys with some history (T.J., Morency) you may chalk it up to youth and something that might be corrected.
But you never want to bring in a 31-32 year old that has recently sparked up some more trouble, especially when they want 35 million dollars.
All Houston pro sports teams do not tolerate bad apples. Any player that gets in trouble with the law or has a bad team attitude gets dumped. Some get hired out of College but only after talking with key people associated with the player. Rockets traded 6 draft picks for a forward ( cant remember his name ) that had a bad rep out of college. And they got burned. It is revealing that they chose to take the loss rather than stick it out. Only player I can think of that we have kept through troubling times is Pastorini.
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Well to be more specific in my recollection, Wade looked one on one more physically dominant in camp, pre-season and early in the season. The unit as a whole did not look good IMO because (this may not be the actual explanation but the best I can describe it) the OL was firing off too parallel to the line of scrimmage and falling into a giant scrum pile without creating holes or sealing the cutback off. This IMO is part of what made DD and the other RB's look hesitant at times early in the season. Later in the season the line as a whole was firing off less parallel to the line, holes were opening and the RB's looked more comfortable. Wade individually and Wiegert next to him who was also being nagged by injuries, looked less physically dominant individually than before even though the result was better. But hey, that was just my impression.
Right side health was a problem last year with the nagging injuries that slowed the starters even when they were in there. I hope this isn't a continuing trend for Weigert, we'll see if he comes back 100% whatever the timetable. They need to get him healthy before throwing him in though or the ankle may slow him all season.
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Rockets traded 6 draft picks for a forward ( cant remember his name ) that had a bad rep out of college. And they got burned. It is revealing that they chose to take the loss rather than stick it out.
Eddie Griffin??
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