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Old 08-15-2010   #1
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To try to get 4 more yards when you have a kicker competition and a chance to save a game with a 51 yard feild goal is not fundimental football. I am not sure but I have never seen where Gary Gambled and won that gamble. I think the two things Gary needs this preseason is a book on fundimental football and a Clock around his neck like Flave of Flave, He dont need the grill but the clock might make him reallize that the game is timed. I am a strong Kubiak supporter but come on Coach Test your Kickers!!!
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To try to get 4 more yards when you have a kicker competition and a chance to save a game with a 51 yard feild goal is not fundimental football. I am not sure but I have never seen where Gary Gambled and won that gamble. I think the two things Gary needs this preseason is a book on fundimental football and a Clock around his neck like Flave of Flave, He dont need the grill but the clock might make him reallize that the game is timed. I am a strong Kubiak supporter but come on Coach Test your Kickers!!!
He did the same thing at Indy last year, when he had Schaub throw a ball
to Jacoby downfield with 15 secs on the clock. Schaub spiked the ball with
ONE SECOND REMAINING IN THE GAME. Chris Brown shanked the
fieldgoal though.

That's one instance he gambled and won.
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I define winning a gamble as the ability to gamble and win the game, Chris shanking the feild goal means he lost that one too.
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I define winning a gamble as the ability to gamble and win the game, Chris shanking the feild goal means he lost that one too.
I saw the gamble as moving the kicker closer to the goal before time
expired. Schaub spiking the ball with a second left on the clock means
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I saw the gamble as moving the kicker closer to the goal before time
expired. Schaub spiking the ball with a second left on the clock means
"mission accomplished."
I agree with you Dex. Gary has no control over the kickers ability to make a kick. Only get him in a better position to increase the odds.

Sometimes people want to blame the coach for everything, but it is the players on the field that have to make it happen.
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1) The thread title is dumb.

2) It's preseason, he's giving his guys a chance to go out there and execute in a pressure situation; one of the situations that can't be replicated on the training fields playing against your own team.

3) No coach or player EVER wants overtime in preseason games, it's just asking for an injury.
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But I heard there was only 10 seconds on the clock (with no TOs) last night ? How do you run a play, complete a pass, get back up to the LOS, take a snap from center and spike the ball in under 10 secs ? Maybe with 15 or 20, but 10 secs ?
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But I heard there was only 10 seconds on the clock (with no TOs) last night ? How do you run a play, complete a pass, get back up to the LOS, take a snap from center and spike the ball in under 10 secs ? Maybe with 15 or 20, but 10 secs ?
Sideline pass maybe? It was a go route. Into the endzone maybe?
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But I heard there was only 10 seconds on the clock (with no TOs) last night ? How do you run a play, complete a pass, get back up to the LOS, take a snap from center and spike the ball in under 10 secs ? Maybe with 15 or 20, but 10 secs ?
In last night's case, they were expecting a sideline route or incompletion.
Booty took a sack, which is what you CAN'T do.
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Why would you play for overtime in a preseason game? It's like going to extra innings in spring training. Nothing is really going to come out of it and you risk suffering an injury if you go to OT.
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Sideline pass maybe? It was a go route. Into the endzone maybe?
SL route maybe (not what they did in Indy last year), but would still have to be really quick. Down only 3 points EZ pass would be your walk-off victory scenario right there, no more points needed, game over, end of story.
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when you have 10 seconds and a 51 yard feild goal and a kicker competition, It would be best to try the kicker to see if he could rise to the occasion in a game type situation. the way itn was played we will never know and a decision on which kicker hangs in the ballance. It is evident that Brown is the man to beat and there really is no competition.
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Agree. Thought GK allowed some bone headed play calling tonight. Much of it was good though, which is why its so infuriating. Like the Slaton up the gut on goal line situation. Isn't that why we drafted bigger backs? Isn't that the idea, foster/tate up the middle, slaton next to Schaub out of the shotgun?
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I think complaining about playcalling in the pre-season is pretty damn silly. Remember, the objectives in pre-season are completely different than the objectives in the regular season (which is to win). Boneheaded playcalling is not really going to be able to be measured by games in which coaches are more looking at how certain players are playing, and not trying to win the game at all costs.

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To try to get 4 more yards when you have a kicker competition and a chance to save a game with a 51 yard feild goal is not fundimental football. I am not sure but I have never seen where Gary Gambled and won that gamble. I think the two things Gary needs this preseason is a book on fundimental football and a Clock around his neck like Flave of Flave, He dont need the grill but the clock might make him reallize that the game is timed. I am a strong Kubiak supporter but come on Coach Test your Kickers!!!
You were looking for fundamental football in the first preseason game? Making the 51 yard kick meant overtime. I'd rather take the meaningless loss than stay out there and risk getting someone hurt for a meaningless win. The decision was based on the bigger picture. You already lost your 2nd round rookie RB. Go home, look at the film, stay healthy.

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when you have 10 seconds and a 51 yard feild goal and a kicker competition, It would be best to try the kicker to see if he could rise to the occasion in a game type situation. the way itn was played we will never know and a decision on which kicker hangs in the ballance. It is evident that Brown is the man to beat and there really is no competition.
The only reason you wouldn't try a FG in that situation is if you were trying to rig the K competition. Oh well atleast if Rackers had made the FG we wouldn't have been put through the torture of wacthing K.Brown miss a game winning FG in OT.

Looks like K.Brown is goiung to be the K next year. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

To answer the Aggie ? the answer is that's just what Aggies do. LOL
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Why would you play for overtime in a preseason game? It's like going to extra innings in spring training. Nothing is really going to come out of it and you risk suffering an injury if you go to OT.
I don't look at it as playing for OT, but giving Rackers a fair chance to win the kicking competition. It would be much easier on the coaches to eliminate OT in preseason.
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when you have 10 seconds and a 51 yard feild goal and a kicker competition, It would be best to try the kicker to see if he could rise to the occasion in a game type situation. the way itn was played we will never know and a decision on which kicker hangs in the ballance. It is evident that Brown is the man to beat and there really is no competition.
Are you kidding me? Please tell me you are not that ignorant. Every coach does the same exact thing Kubes did. You don't play for overtime in a preseason game. What if Rackets makes it and we lose a few players to injuries? Well at least we know one of our kickers can make a non pressure kick in a meaningless game. Where do you guys come up with this crap?
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The only reason you wouldn't try a FG in that situation is if you were trying to rig the K competition. Oh well atleast if Rackers had made the FG we wouldn't have been put through the torture of wacthing K.Brown miss a game winning FG in OT.

Looks like K.Brown is goiung to be the K next year. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

To answer the Aggie ? the answer is that's just what Aggies do. LOL
No, the ONLY reason you do not try a FG in that situation is it would have been beyond moronic to send a pre-seaon game into overtime when you have 3 others to see what kicker comes out on top...

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To try to get 4 more yards when you have a kicker competition and a chance to save a game with a 51 yard feild goal is not fundimental football. I am not sure but I have never seen where Gary Gambled and won that gamble. I think the two things Gary needs this preseason is a book on fundimental football and a Clock around his neck like Flave of Flave, He dont need the grill but the clock might make him reallize that the game is timed. I am a strong Kubiak supporter but come on Coach Test your Kickers!!!
This whole thread is an epic fail from the start... YOU DO NOT KICK GAME TYING FGs TO SEND PRE-SEASON GAMES INTO OVERTIME!!!!

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