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Old 04-20-2010   #21
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I would take Tate, Gerhardt, or Hardesty before Dwyer who's got good size but dosen't run as if he did.
I hope the Texans go with Gerhart or Tate in the 2nd. I'd be very disappointed if either were there and they picked Dwyer instead. Hardesty would be a great pick too but with his injury history (knee surgeries) I'd stay away. If he were still around in the 4th he would definitely be worth the pick, but I don't think he will fall that far. As for Dwyer, he has some question marks, especially about his weight. Here is a quote about Dwyer from his former coach from Walterfootball.

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2/27/10: Bills head coach Chan Gailey expressed some concern about Jonathan Dwyer's ability to keep his weight under control: "He’s always fought the weight problem every year since high school." And Gailey is Dwyer's former coach. Dwyer was 5-11, 229 at the Combine weigh-in, but had been overweight this past season.
This sounds like he could be another Ron Dayne. Not sure we want to have that again. Can't afford to lose any more O-linemen!
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Don't get why people on the board seem high on Wilson. He's not terrible ,but it's not like he has the position sewed up.

http://www.nfl.com/players/eugenewil...e?id=WIL686587

Looking at the past two seasons he hasn't even finished or started one healthy. In the mean time we've been stuck hoping guys like Busing, Barber and Nick Ferguson could hold the spot down.

No qualms about Pollard. The cat brings it.
Im not high on Wilson, but between drafting a CN, RB, DT or FS, I think FS is much more covered than the other 3.
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PK: After watching 8 yrs of bad footbaall I wish the Texans had one side of the football they could hang their hat on.

You're mock would give them that.

You could draft another RB late.
Agreed. with this haul hello 6-10.
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Sign me up. Although I would rather take a safety in round 3.
1) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana (PA), 6 207

I'll pass on the first round golden boys and take this guy in the second. won't be dimes bit of difference between them. Except you're over paying for the same talent.
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1) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana (PA), 6 207

I'll pass on the first round golden boys and take this guy in the second. won't be dimes bit of difference between them. Except you're over paying for the same talent.
Good call. I have been pushing Ansah for long time as I did Kyle Wilson and watched both climb. Ansah has played some FS in his school's defense and has addressed the "won't tackle" criticism as saying the defense focused on others making tackle while he mirrored the WR. I am hoping he will be there in 3rd but not surprised if selected higher.
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Who do we have behind Eugene Wilson and Bernard Pollard? I dont know about you but I dont want to be one injury away from seeing John Busing or Bryan Russell starting for our team.
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Who do we have in front of Amobi & Cody?

It would be nice to have one starter in front of them.

Just one...
If you take a look at last year's numbers we did ok, actually we did pretty good in stopping the run. After the first 2-3 games of course. Our secondary is the weak link. And with the pass heavy offenses we will face EVERY week we need more help in the secondary.
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1) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana (PA), 6 207

I'll pass on the first round golden boys and take this guy in the second. won't be dimes bit of difference between them. Except you're over paying for the same talent.
I am fine with that, but do think the 2nd might be a little high for this guy.

What the Texans are going to do in the first 2 rounds, and what we think they should do have generally been 2 different things.

I think they want to plug that CB hole first and foremost. If Haden and Wilson, hell maybe even McCourtey and Robinson are there at #20 they might pull the trigger.
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Who do we have behind Eugene Wilson and Bernard Pollard? I dont know about you but I dont want to be one injury away from seeing John Busing or Bryan Russell starting for our team.
Kubiak is much more impressed about Dominque Barber than I am.
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I am fine with that, but do think the 2nd might be a little high for this guy.

What the Texans are going to do in the first 2 rounds, and what we think they should do have generally been 2 different things.

I think they want to plug that CB hole first and foremost. If Haden and Wilson, hell maybe even McCourtey and Robinson are there at #20 they might pull the trigger.
I guess it depends on how bad you think Reeves, Moulden, and Fred Bennet sucks. His numbers are ripe and the guy has thrity five inch arms. he is a bona fide gorilla armed CB prospect. that makes the guys functional palying height about eight foot. Unless he is a wonder lick moron they should have him on line by September. I'm not saying Cb isn't a need. I'm saying we're over paying for talent with a Cb in the first. Bang another hole and come away with two starters instead of one.
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I guess it depends on how bad you think Reeves, Moulden, and Fred Bennet sucks. His numbers are ripe and the guy has thrity five inch arms. he is a bona fide gorilla armed CB prospect. that makes the guys functional palying height about eight foot. Unless he is a wonder lick moron they should have him on line by September. I'm not saying Cb isn't a need. I'm saying we're over paying for talent with a Cb in the first. Bang another hole and come away with two starters instead of one.
Aren't you basically drafting Molden and Bennett?

Hot prospects from lower levels of competition, that have tools but have never faced anyone worth a damn?
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Aren't you basically drafting Molden and Bennett?

Hot prospects from lower levels of competition, that have tools but have never faced anyone worth a damn?
Signed Kenny Houston, Donnie Shell, and Darrel Green.


the kid has great numbers. And guess what the top guys bust out too. we got a shorty in Grover Quinn. I think Brice is more than a fair nickle. We need a long John on the right. and there ain't one in the top five. You go with two shorties and every WCO team we meet will run us out of the park.
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Just pointing out the guys you say may suck, are similar in their backgrounds to the guy you want us to reach for the in the second.
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Aren't you basically drafting Molden and Bennett?

Hot prospects from lower levels of competition, that have tools but have never faced anyone worth a damn?
Since when is the SEC a "lower level of competition"?
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Since when is the SEC a "lower level of competition"?
True Bennett played at a decent school, I was referencing Molden more as the comparison.
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True Bennett played at a decent school, I was referencing Molden more as the comparison.
It's probably premature to give up on him, I think. You can't really hold injuries against someone unless they become chronic.
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I'm still holding out hope on those two guys.... if only.
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