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Old 04-09-2010   #41
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Default Re: Post Pro-Day AWTBEER MOCK DRAFT

Here is comparable mock picks (highlighted bold) as selected by board members here http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70845

which one is better more realistic & why/discuss?

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1. St. Louis Rams - Sam Bradford, QB 6'5" 236
grades don't win games in the NFL QB's do. take your franchise QB St. Louis. Gil Brandt, "put on the best quarterback workout by a draft prospect that I’ve seen since I watched a private workout Troy Aikman put on for us with the Cowboys in California".
Sam Bradford
2. Detroit Lions - Russell Okung, LT 6'5 1/4" 307
Detroit invested the #1 pick last year on Matt Stafford who got ripped apart towards end of season, here is a couple Texan fans who know all too well the consequences if you don't protect a young franchise QB. they are fortunate to have a LT on the board who grades out this high to pass on bpa Suh
Nadamukong Suh
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ndamukong Suh, DT 6'3 7/8" 307
luck shines on Raheem Morris who just so happens to need a 4-3 DT. not trying to force any picks just letting them fall to teams with appropriate positional needs
Gerald McCoy
4. Washington Redskins - Trent Williams, LT 6'4 5/8" 315
Mike Shanahan address franchise LT T. Williams who is an athletic fit for OC Kyle Shanahan west coast based system. Trent is polished & competitive, versatile in pass pro & opening cut-back lanes. has no holes in his game
Russell Okung
5. Kansas City Chiefs - Bryan Bulaga, LT 6'5 3/8" 314
admire Scott Pioli style, not afraid to face criticism to get his guy. last year with 3rd overall pick he blew mock draft boards off the map w/Tyson Jackson. now QB Matt Cassel will receive the time & protection he needs to read & go through his route tree. Bryan is a tough, competitive & skilled underclassman in the Jake Long mold
Eric Berry
6. Seattle Seahawks - Gerald McCoy, DT 6'4 1/8 295
Pete Carroll catches a break will read "headlines". Early run of OT's (needs one too) lands the #2 rated player DT Gerald McCoy into Seattle's 4-3. both fit/need& bpa
Trent Williams
7. Cleveland Browns - Eric Berry, DB 5'11 5/8" 211
Mike Holmgren signed his contract to become President of the Cleveland Browns on Jan. 5, 2010 on April 22nd Eric Berry will be his first round selection, historical pick to begin anew legacy
Joe Haden
8. Oakland Raiders - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE 6"4 3/4" 270
always expect the unexpected with Al Davis come draft day. need a legit edge pass rusher, Pierre-Paul possess the raw talent/measureables the Raiders seem to covet
Bryan Bulaga
9. Buffalo Bills - Jimmy Clausen, QB 6'2 5/8" 222
Focus has been on transition to 3-4 defense this off-season, but does Chan Gailey go with Trent Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brian Brohm?
Dan Williams
10. Jacksonville Jaguars - Derrick Morgan, DE 6'3" 266
next measureable DE off the board, with two of the top passing QB's in the NFL in division Del Rio wants to counter-attack, force to run & stack the box
Jimmy Clausen
11. Denver Broncos - Dan Williams, NT 6'2 3/8" 327
Thumper inside, adds youth to revamped/new 3-4. despite size has motor/endurance to adjust in the mile high altitude. plays quick with some wiggle not just overpowering, more relentless
Rolando McClain
12. Miami Dolphins - Jerry Hughes, OLB 6'1 3/4" 255
Parcells invented this position it seems, after parting ways with Joey Porter, Jerry Hughes gets the call to be the new pass rushing OLB Hybrid. really rising up teams draft boards because of his Freeney like burst coming off edge as a pass rushing 3-4 OLB
Jason Pierre-Paul
13. San Francisco 49ers - Earl Thomas, FS/CB 5'10 1/4" 208
with OLB target Jerry Hughes off the board combined with flying up draft boards himself (post UT pro-day running a 4.37) Thomas is a ballhawk with cornerback coverage ability a much welcomed addition to 49ers 3-4 Singletary defense as he roams secondary
C.J. Spiller
14. Seattle Seahawks - Charles Brown, LT 6'5 3/8" 303
Has tremendous upside & nobody knows him better than his old coach Pete Carroll. Seahawks have the opportunity with two #1's to address both trenches & become a more complete, west coast/zbs team. plus for him is Alex Gibbs who likes converted TE's with exceptional athletic speed/footwork. pulled hamstring pro-day but then so did Earl
Earl Thomas
15. New York Giants - Rolando McClain, MLB 6'3 5/8" 254
fills a huge need defensively in the middle of G-Men D. immediate starter over Jonathon Goff. adds to FA aquisition Antrell Rolle, FS great commander over the middle, signal caller, intangibles
Anthony Davis
16. Tennessee Titans - Brandon Graham, DE 6'1 3/8" 268
Ascending up draft boards because can fit in a 3-4 OLB, sucks for Texans another divisional pass rusher to knock down Schaub, but hey maybe he can knock out Peyton
Everson Griffith
17. San Francisco 49ers - Mike Iupati, LG 6'5 1/8" 331
Start him at his natural position LG, then see if he develops into a RT which adds vaue to pick. one of those players who will look intimidating in any uniform the 49ers & coach Singletary will love his toughness inside trenches
Kyle Wilson
18. Pittsburgh Steelers - Maurkice Pouncey, C/OG 6'4 1/8" 308
Also ascending (picked before Texans) is the second highest rated interior linman of the draft. His size/athletic upside could fill multiple positions including Center, would look Iupati if still available
Mike Iupati
19. Atlanta Falcons - Sergio Kindle, DE/LB 6' 3" 250
could be this years Brian Cushing? maybe more explosive first step in pass rush, can run the field sideline to sidline could project to SAM LB in a 4-3 as well 4-3 OLB. hand down experience can be used off edge blitz packages (added value) can track down/cover RB's & TE's too
Derrick Morgan
20. Hosuton Texans - Joe Haden, CB 5'10 3/4" 193
Atlanta addressed CB w/signing Dunta in free agency, enter Joe Haden to fill his shoes. there is good depth in corner group which helps our cause. other needs in short supply like interior line bump those top tier prospects up draft boards, lucky for Texans because sitting pretty #20 they can address CB here with prospect graded near top of their board
Ryan Mathews
21. Cincinnati Bengals - C.J. Spiller, RB 5'10 5/8" 196Spiller would give the Bengals a dynamic RB duo speed paired w/power RB (Benson). Excellent receiver out of backfield, home run ability, dynamic playmaker everytime he touches the football. Carson/Bengals would love this pick & could use him like Titans use Chris Johnson
Sergio Kindle
22. New England Patriots - Ryan Mathews, RB 5'11 5/8" 217
Belichick can address his franchise back, complete package with great vision, balance better than expected long speed & soft under utilized hands receiving out of backfield
Dez Bryant
23. Green Bay Packers - Anthony Davis, OT 6'5" 323
adding protection for Aaron Rodgers is a priority need. once considered a surefire top-10 pick is now battling questions about his demeanor and desire. the Packers are one team that would be happy to see him there, he looked pretty strong his pro-day so don't expect him to fall any further (Dallas)
Taylor Mays
24. Philadelphia Eagles - Sean Weatherspoon, MLB 6' 3/8" 239
infusion of youth, next in line of great Eagle defensive playmakers over middle, great fit/value, general leadership skills, next level motivator extrodinare
Sean Weatherspoon
25. Baltimore Ravens - Dez Bryant, WR 6'2" 225
phenomenal talent stretching him to Jim Harbaugh. in his first two drafts he has taken a chance with Flacco, Ray Rice & Michael Oher. Bryant fits this trend & will flourish in this offense, posse & all
Jared Odrick
26. Arizona Cardinals - Kyle Wilson, CB 5'10" 194
top edge rushers off their board look to next bpa @ need postion. Kyle's competitive character & natural playmaker instincts gives Cardindals a premium CB tandem (Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie)
Golden Tate
27. Dallas Cowboys - Jared Odrick, DT/DE 6'5" 304
Big 10 defensive player of the year, tough & competitive fits the 3-4 DE position, upgrade over Igor Olshansky & opposite Marcus Spears
Bruce Campbell
28. San Diego Chargers - Taylor Mays, SS 6'3" 230
Too much potential to keep out of the first round despite many questions. excellent fit in a 3-4 defense, can play off man, read & react using his size & speed to intimidate, seperate football from carrier
Terrence Cody
29. New York Jets - Jermaine Gresham, TE 6'5 1/4" 261
Not only gives Sanchez another go to guy underneath (excellent route runner too) but another in line blocker in protection packages, stays in his blocks like an extra tackle, allows Keller to be the more featured route runner who can slip into seams/holes. can really cause mismatches out of breaks & safety outlet for Sanchize
Arrelious Benn
30. Minnesota Vikings - Devin McCourty, CB 5'10 3/4" 193
tough, physical cornerback who can lock onto & shutdown a teams #1 WR (another player I hope the Colts do not aqurie) Vikings need secondary help to support a solid run defense & pass rush
Devin McCourty
31. Indianapolis Colts - Everson Griffen, DE 6"3 3/8"
Had a great pro-day (Griffen ran a 4.59-second 40-yard dash at 268 pounds and did “everything” well, according to one scout in attendance) solid game film @ USC (17 sacks) extends Freeney (injury's) keeps pressure on Texans
Charles Brown
32. New Orleans Saints - Brian Price, DT 6'1 1/8 303
Super Bowl Champs need to address interior defensive tackle position. Price is a good 4-3 2-gap fit along side Sedrick Ellis pretty solid value late first could go as high as #20
Brandon Graham
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That is probably true, but I don't know if Cinci would have the same grades. Are they going to go BPA or need?
Did I miss Spiller selling crack in the dorm hallway? It's almost commical how they draft thugs year in ad year out.
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Did I miss Spiller selling crack in the dorm hallway? It's almost commical how they draft thugs year in ad year out.
turning the page from everything I understand Spiller has excellent character not to mention honor-roll student.
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Yeah well watching a couple of dogs chase their tails in the front yard is amusing for a while, but after a while it gets old. So big fella I want you to astute me and post to the board You are drafting Leodis McKelvin or Darrelle Revis clone with this pick ? You won't because you know as well as I know it too, this is not a good group of corners. The difference in margin between the guy you are forcing at twenty and the guy at eighty one is very small. You are in fact forcing a sub NFL talent into the twenty because you are panicking over "need" . Dismiss me? Dismiss you. They have never panicked in four drafts and they are not going to start now. Not one of these top five guys can start for us the first eight weeks. In other words you just mocked us 8-8 once again.
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no panic here its a win win situation for the Texans, that is unless your hoping for Pouncey/Iupati to fall
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Yeah well watching a couple of dogs chase their tails in the front yard is amusing for a while, but after a while it gets old. So big fella I want you to astute me and post to the board You are drafting Leodis McKelvin or Darrelle Revis clone with this pick ? You won't because you know as well as I know it too, this is not a good group of corners. The difference in margin between the guy you are forcing at twenty and the guy at eighty one is very small. You are in fact forcing a sub NFL talent into the twenty because you are panicking over "need" . Dismiss me? Dismiss you. They have never panicked in four drafts and they are not going to start now. Not one of these top five guys can start for us the first eight weeks. In other words you just mocked us 8-8 once again.
You are saying that Haden and Kyle Wilson are not significantly better than 3rd round CBs? I'm a big Ansah fan and have it in 3rd on my mock but would not say he is equal to these top two or even McCourty a probable late 1st to early 2nd guy. Even Thomas may be drafted high first by a team that will use him at corner.
Pete my man, I can't think of a radio, tv or magazine guy that will agree with you on this one.
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