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View Poll Results: Round 1 Selection
(C) Maurkice Pouncey, Florida 0 0%
(OG) Mike Upati, Idaho 8 13.56%
(OT) Charles Brown, USC 0 0%
(WR) Damian Williams, USC 0 0%
(RB) Jahvid Best, California / Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech 6 10.17%
(NT) Dan Williams, Tennessee 10 16.95%
(DT) Brian Price, UCLA 1 1.69%
(OLB) Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri 1 1.69%
(CB) Patrick Robinson, Florida State / Donovan Warren, Michigan / Kyle Wilson, Boise State 14 23.73%
(S) Taylor Mays, USC / Earl Thomas, Texas 19 32.20%
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Old 02-16-2010   #41
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My top 3 are Dan Williams, Kyle Wilson and Earl Thomas. I think I'd be happy if we got one of those guys with our 1st. I'm fully on board going with BPA. I just want true studs and playmakers. If the guy is an elite all pro, pro bowl type of player, I say take him. I'm really against a WR/RB in the 1st round... but if the guy is going to be a Chris Johnson or Andre Johnson type of player, we'd be nuts to pass that up (obviously its hard to predict). I'm saying if Kubiak/Smith think this player is a 95-99... top 10 talent. Watch out offense!!

Many people think the 1st and maybe the 2nd round are our only shots at getting quality starters. I think this draft is going to be deep enough at positions we really want that we'll find quality starters and contributors throughout. I can see us getting impact players at DT, CB, FS and RB. Don't think I forgot about OL though. I really do think we're going to get really solid guys much like 2006.
I agreed on the depth but aftter 3rd round most will not start until end of next season if then. Those are your depth rounds usually as you know but if we can get a starting CB,RB,OL or DT
in first 3 rounds, whoopee!
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I agreed on the depth but aftter 3rd round most will not start until end of next season if then. Those are your depth rounds usually as you know but if we can get a starting CB,RB,OL or DT
in first 3 rounds, whoopee!
True most won't start, but I think Kubiak & Smith have a pretty good chance of finding the ones who can.

Take a look at the 4th round on since Kubiak joined us.
-Owen Daniels - 4th round TE, pro bowl calibre
-David Anderson - 7th round WR, solid contributor
-Fred Bennett - 4th round CB, really good rookie year, faded fast
-Brandon Harrison - 5th round S, had lots of PT even as starter
-Kasey Studdard - 6th round OG, decent depth had to start this year due to injuries
-Zac Diles - 7th round LB, starting LB
-Xavier Adibi - 4th round LB, solid depth and decent PT
-Dominique Barber- 6th round S, tons of PT, starting experience
-Glover Quin -4th round CB, arguably best CB on the roster

Some/most of those guys can sure use an upgrade but we've witnessed late round picks maybe immediate impact on our team. I do think this team has gotten better each of the past 4 years but we still sure could use upgrading. Not to mention if we lose some players like Dunta and Walter... and Pitts, it really creates some opportunity for these young guys.
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You think Alabama runs a ZBS like ours?
I don't wanna say it is exactly like ours but when I watched Bama there looked to be a lot of similarities between how their o line is asked to block and what we ask our guys to do.
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Im surpised that many people didnt pick Mike Upati, he is awsome and we need to improve our OL.

Well pearls before swine there BT. Until he's off the board Iupati makes the most sense to me. I can see the argument for the corner. I can see the argument for the free ranging safety. But taking a RB in the first round from a class generally regarded as low, makes no sense to me. I'd be more in favor of a move back and taking a shot at Pouncey. Fix the Gd o-line. Finally. And be done with it.
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True most won't start, but I think Kubiak & Smith have a pretty good chance of finding the ones who can.


-Kasey Studdard - 6th round OG, decent depth had to start this year due to injuries


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I think and I don't know how he graded out in the games, but as far as executing on down the field blocks and pass protection, Studard is more than just a back up. The guy is agile and mean. Don't want to break an original Texan's rice bowl. But I think if Pitts gets a big offer they are going with Studard at LG. Pitts walks. Just my guess.
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Well pearls before swine there BT. Until he's off the board Iupati makes the most sense to me. I can see the argument for the corner. I can see the argument for the free ranging safety. But taking a RB in the first round from a class generally regarded as low, makes no sense to me. I'd be more in favor of a move back and taking a shot at Pouncey. Fix the Gd o-line. Finally. And be done with it.
My top 3 are D.Williams (I want to get a Tenn.DT Haynesworth and Henderson)

Dwyer finally a RB that can get short yardage and doesn't fumble

Iupati No problem with upgrading the OL, the reason I wouldn't go OL 1st is that Asamoah or Calloway should be there in the 3rd rd.

Calloway is an upgade who's comparable to Marshall Yanda with rhe Ravens.
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I don't wanna say it is exactly like ours but when I watched Bama there looked to be a lot of similarities between how their o line is asked to block and what we ask our guys to do.
They do run a ZB scheme.
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Well pearls before swine there BT. Until he's off the board Iupati makes the most sense to me. I can see the argument for the corner. I can see the argument for the free ranging safety. But taking a RB in the first round from a class generally regarded as low, makes no sense to me. I'd be more in favor of a move back and taking a shot at Pouncey. Fix the Gd o-line. Finally. And be done with it.
Thats what I was thinking!
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But taking a RB in the first round from a class generally regarded as low, makes no sense to me.
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I don't wanna say it is exactly like ours but when I watched Bama there looked to be a lot of similarities between how their o line is asked to block and what we ask our guys to do.
I agree he is a great run blocker but not so sure on his pass blocking skills and we sure throw a bunch. Again, if Pitts is there, I'm ok with just about any OG behind him learning.
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I'd go with Pouncey. I am more desperate to fix and improve the running game than any other area.
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Define "generally regarded", there 3TP.

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I went with Iupati but I figure he'll be gone by then.
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meets the criteria of a great class.
Yes, except I never called this class great, nor did I ever make any sort of qualitative judgment on the quality of this RB class.

You did, however, make one that was baseless and, apparently, errant.
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Yes, except I never called this class great, nor did I ever make any sort of qualitative judgment on the quality of this RB class.

You did, however, make one that was baseless and, apparently, errant.
Well i just dd I guess. Or you posting you believe this class to be with in shouting distance of the last two or three ? Inquiring minds wish to know. Do tell Nero ? Fire up the harp and cry me one.

2009 : Moreno, Wells, McCoy, Brown, Green, Coffee.

2008: Darren McFaddin, Stewart , Jones, Mendenhall, Chris Johnson, Forte ,Rice, Kevin Smith

2007: Ok I'll give you that one.....this class might be the equal of the class of 2007.
All Day Peterson, Lynch, Irons, Brandon Jackson.

2006: Reggie Bush, Lawrence Maroney, Williams , Addai, MJD-Pocket Hercules.

To me outside of a couple of guys it looks ho hum.

And maybe Spiller does fill the roll of Chris Johnson if he makes it to twenty. But the first thing he has to have is at least a crease to slip though. Wouldn't you agree ?
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Yes, except I never called this class great, nor did I ever make any sort of qualitative judgment on the quality of this RB class.

You did, however, make one that was baseless and, apparently, errant.
You definitely made a quantitative judgment on my speculation. And the list is above. And the reason no one does this anymore....take RBs high, is everyone has figured out that platooning is cheaper in the long run than taking a stud and seeing how long he lasts. See Portis. Mcgahee. Ronnie Brown. Frank Gore.

And it will be a long while before you see a Rb go off in the top five once again. In other words that theory is pretty much a NFL consensus now.

I'll conceded twenty isn't high....for Spiller or Mathews. I'll also be on board if Spiller or Mathews is the pick. It is my opinion however that the Texas will see more service out of the guard, whether it's Iupati or the Poundster or Newhouse, than they will out of the, or any, first round runing back. JMHO

It is also my opinion that Iupati would push the o-line over the top and make them legitimate SB contenders. They should be able to block any defense in any scheme on any given Sunday.

Which would give them a rushing attack. And with that in their back pocket, Matt Schaub and A.J. have a chance to go out and chase the immortals next season: and the team ?... a SB ring.
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I think and I don't know how he graded out in the games, but as far as executing on down the field blocks and pass protection, Studard is more than just a back up. The guy is agile and mean. Don't want to break an original Texan's rice bowl. But I think if Pitts gets a big offer they are going with Studard at LG. Pitts walks. Just my guess.
I agree if Pitts gets a large contract offer the Texas are fine with handing it over to Kasey. I think he is a serviceable guard.

As far as ranking this draft class with the past 3, I think it is a mediocre class. Better than 2007 even with AP, but worse than 2009 and 2008.

I like the RB class as a whole. But their top tier prospects are lacking. Maybe 2 should go in the first round. Spiller and Dwyer. Everyone else is 2 down.
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Well we can basically ignore this thread cause with Dunta gone we are going to need a top notch corner via round 1.

Patrick Robinson
Perrish Cox
Donovan Warren
Kyle Wilson

One of these guys will be our first round selection.
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Well we can basically ignore this thread cause with Dunta gone we are going to need a top notch corner via round 1.

Patrick Robinson
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Kyle Wilson

One of these guys will be our first round selection.
I've been on board with drafting a CB the whole time, but drafting a really solid NT like Williams will do just as much to fix the secondary as drafting one of these CBs will. Still can't rule out Earl Thomas either as many people are seeing him as a CB in the NFL.
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Well i just dd I guess. Or you posting you believe this class to be with in shouting distance of the last two or three ? Inquiring minds wish to know. Do tell Nero ? Fire up the harp and cry me one.

2009 : Moreno, Wells, McCoy, Brown, Green, Coffee.

2008: Darren McFaddin, Stewart , Jones, Mendenhall, Chris Johnson, Forte ,Rice, Kevin Smith

2007: Ok I'll give you that one.....this class might be the equal of the class of 2007.
All Day Peterson, Lynch, Irons, Brandon Jackson.

2006: Reggie Bush, Lawrence Maroney, Williams , Addai, MJD-Pocket Hercules.

To me outside of a couple of guys it looks ho hum.

And maybe Spiller does fill the roll of Chris Johnson if he makes it to twenty. But the first thing he has to have is at least a crease to slip though. Wouldn't you agree ?
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I really like Dwyer but since Dunta has walked this is what I would do.

Rd1 Wilson or best CB
Rd2 Mathews
Rd3 trade for Kuper
Rd4 Newhouse or Calloway from Iowa
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