KFFL's First Mock

[HOU-TEX]

I'm not sure I agree with some of their picks, but it's another mock to dissect.

1 St. Louis Rams: Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska Quarterback is a strong possibility

2 Detroit Lions: Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma If Suh is available, he's their man

3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Eric Berry S Tennessee Suh or McCoy are the top two choices for TB, but Berry will certainly do. Can see them trading down, too.

4 Washington Redskins: Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma Could be Russell Okung or Jimmy Clausen

5 Kansas City Chiefs: Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State Is Dez Bryant a possibility? Probably not a realistic one....

6 Seattle Seahawks: Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame Could be Bradford if WAS goes in another direction

7 Cleveland Browns: Joe Haden CB Florida CLE has a lot of needs, and CB may not be No. 1, but it's up there.

8 Oakland Raiders: Anthony Davis OT Rutgers Al Davis can be unpredictable, but Anthony Davis fits one of their biggest needs, and character concerns go out the window.

9 Buffalo Bills: Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa BUF has a lot of options: Clausen, Bradford (if available); Dez Bryant a possibility; Anthony Davis is their guy if OAK doesn't take him.

10 Denver Broncos: (from Chicago Bears) (subject to coin toss) Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State DEN will need a No. 1 receiver with Brandon Marshall's departure looming; Carlos Dunlap a possibility - has the size to play the run

11 Jacksonville Jaguars: (subject to coin toss) Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech Can the Jags really spend another high pick on a pass-rushing end? We're not so sure, but JAX's total of 14 sacks last year is pathetic.

12 Miami Dolphins: Rolando McClain ILB Alabama Can MIA pass up the best LB in the draft, even though ILB isn't a huge need? Sergio Kindle is an option, too.

13 San Francisco 49ers: Trent Williams OT Oklahoma San Fran needs a RT badly, and Williams was a producer there before being moved to LT last year.

14 Seattle Seahawks: (from Denver Broncos) Bruce Campbell OT Maryland We're not crazy about this pick, but SEA desperately needs a LT. Taylor Mays is an option for Pete Carroll.

15 New York Giants: (subject to coin toss) Brian Price DT UCLA Last year's defensive tackle additions didn't quite get the job done. LB is a strong possibility.

16 Tennessee Titans: (subject to coin toss) Everson Griffen DE USC Kyle Vanden Bosch is 31 and an impending free agent; TEN needs to get to the QB more often. Jason Pierre-Paul and Sergio Kindle are options.

17 San Francisco 49ers: (from Carolina Panthers) Taylor Mays SS USC Michael Lewis' future is uncertain, and you can bet Mike Singletary is eager to work with Mays.

18 Pittsburgh Steelers: Dan Williams NT Tennessee Casey Hampton can't go on forever. Offensive line help makes sense, too, as does C.J. Spiller.

19 Atlanta Falcons: (subject to coin toss) Carlos Dunlap DE Florida Elite upside but remains raw and tough to count on; Jamaal Anderson isn't a pass rusher, and John Abraham is one year closer to retiring. OLB instead?

20 Houston Texans: (subject to coin toss) Earl Thomas FS Texas A ball-hawking safety will go a long way for shoring up this defense.

21 Cincinnati Bengals: Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida Robert Geathers isn't getting it done, and Jonathan Fanene isn't a pass rusher. Time to upgrade.

22 New England Patriots: Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma Benjamin Watson is expected to be gone; if Wes Welker (knee) struggles early, Gresham is a safety blanket for Tom Brady.

23 Green Bay Packers: Patrick Robinson CB Florida State Jarrett Bush stunk it up, Al Harris injured and old; Charles Woodson aging, too. Patrick Lee can't stay healthy; OLB or a different CB wouldn't be a surprise.

24 Philadelphia Eagles: Sean Weatherspoon LB Missouri Can play outside or inside (if Stewart Bradley doesn't recover). CB, DL both possibilities.

25 Baltimore Ravens: Arrelious Benn WR Illinois A playmaker at WR is a huge, huge need for the Ravens' offense. Golden Tate an option.

26 Arizona Cardinals: Brandon Graham DE/OLB Michigan Karlos Dansby's future is uncertain. Bertrand Berry hung up the cleats, Chike Okeafor is a shell. LB is a big need for the Cardinals.

27 Dallas Cowboys: Mike Iupati OG Idaho Upgrades Kyle Kozier's spot. Can play OT if needed - a mauler that fits in with the rest of DAL's lumbering OL.

28 San Diego Chargers: C.J. Spiller RB Clemson A lack of need drops Spiller to the RB-hungry Chargers. A perfect fit.

29 New York Jets: Sergio Kindle OLB Texas Bryan Thomas is OK; Vernon Gholston is a likely bust - Kindle is a natural. Navorro Bowman and Jerry Hughes on the radar.

30 Minnesota Vikings: Jared Odrick DT Penn State Pat Williams' future is uncertain, and he's on the wrong side of 30. Odrick is a big-bodied beast in the middle. CB a possibility, too.

31 Indianapolis Colts: Kyle Wilson CB Boise State A reach? Indy never seems to care. Whether it's Wilson, Perrish Cox, Donovan Warren or another, CB makes a lot of sense for the Colts, as does DT.

32 New Orleans Saints: Navorro Bowman OLB Penn State Scott Fujita's deal expires this spring; Scott Shanle and Jolonn Dunbar's are up after 2011.

http://www.kffl.com/article.php/118263/165

[beerlover]

spiller to 28, what r u smoking

A lack of need drops Spiller to the RB-hungry Chargers. A perfect fit.

so there is a lack of need in the NFL for RB's

[threetoedpete]

Originally Posted by beerlover

spiller to 28, what r u smoking



so there is a lack of need in the NFL for RB's

195 is 195.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/red...is-though.html

I think the four pick is a done deal.

[threetoedpete]

double post

[Silver Oak]

the posts by Skins fan in that article seem to indicate that most of them see O-line as being their greatest need.

like here though, fans are not in the decision making process.

[disaacks3]

Originally Posted by beerlover

spiller to 28, what r u smoking



so there is a lack of need in the NFL for RB's

If Spiller was there for the Texans @ 20, I doubt we'd pass. I agree, this mock is wack!

[threetoedpete]

Which tells you what ?


everyone is guessing at this point. Everytnig is in flux. Lot of people have started moving up Iupati. Even after the Senior bowl game. That ought to start to tell you something. Scouts are starting to talk. And the coaches owners & GMs will start to blow the draft smoke. Gonna be fun.

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by threetoedpete

Which tells you what ?

everyone is guessing at this point. Everytnig is in flux. Lot of people have started moving up Iupati. Even after the Senior bowl game. That ought to start to tell you something. Scouts are starting to talk. And the coaches owners & GMs will start to blow the draft smoke. Gonna be fun.

there is really no guessing allowed evaluating talent, elite is elite & Spiller is considered elite. you yourself just posted Frank Coyes Mock Draft elaborating emphasis on "hard bpa guy" Seattle has two 1st rd. picks yet he has them selecting Spiller with their 1st pick #6 overall, why not wait until they pick again @ #14 if not elite, surely bpa. maybe because another team like Miami would scoop him up which is where I currently have him projected @ #12.

Another thing - Iupati will not be drafted by the Texans. print it.

[steelbtexan]

I see Spiller going to 49ers,Seattle,Giants or the Falcons before the 20th pick.

[threetoedpete]

Originally Posted by beerlover

there is really no guessing allowed evaluating talent, elite is elite & Spiller is considered elite. you yourself just posted Frank Coyes Mock Draft elaborating emphasis on "hard bpa guy" Seattle has two 1st rd. picks yet he has them selecting Spiller with their 1st pick #6 overall, why not wait until they pick again @ #14 if not elite, surely bpa. maybe because another team like Miami would scoop him up which is where I currently have him projected @ #12.

Another thing - Iupati will not be drafted by the Texans. print it.

The whole process is one big guess beerlover. You are trying to project what you are going to have with these guy two or three years down the road.

Further that is the reason why the Texans drafts have been so successful the last three drafts. Going by your logic we shoulda moved up in '06 gone for the "known" and selected Clady or Williams and not moved down and ended up with Duane and Slaton . Right?

The one true fact is spiller is 195. and he better be quick as Jesus at that weight. Every one hits hard in the NFL. and sooner or later the NFL folds them all.

I don't know beerlover....the owner got "inside lineman " from some where. And just judging whom I would want to pay a big first round #20 contract too If i were a rich man, the once a generation guard or the undersized RB with a probable shelf life of three and a half years, guess which one I'd be more inclined to pay ?

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by threetoedpete

The whole process is one big guess beerlover. You are trying to project what you are going to have with these guy two or three years down the road.

Further that is the reason why the Texans drafts have been so successful the last three drafts. Going by your logic we shoulda moved up in '06 gone for the "known" and selected Clady or Williams and not moved down and ended up with Duane and Slaton . Right?

The one true fact is spiller is 195. and he better be quick as Jesus at that weight. Every one hits hard in the NFL. and sooner or later the NFL folds them all.

I don't know beerlover....the owner got "inside lineman " from some where. And just judging whom I would want to pay a big first round #20 contract too If i were a rich man, the once a generation guard or the undersized RB with a probable shelf life of three and a half years, guess which one I'd be more inclined to pay ?

C.J. Spiller is a better prospect than the Titans Chris Johnson coming out of Collete. - ourlads I don't know...think I'll take my chances.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by beerlover

C.J. Spiller is a better prospect than the Titans Chris Johnson coming out of Collete. - ourlads I don't know...think I'll take my chances.

He would be such a weapon in this offense.

[bah007]

Originally Posted by beerlover

C.J. Spiller is a better prospect than the Titans Chris Johnson coming out of Collete. - ourlads I don't know...think I'll take my chances.

I don't see it that way. I was one of the few that had Chris Johnson rated very high when he was coming out. I think Spiller will be good, but not CJ good.

I think he is the most athletic back in this class, but I still think Ryan Mathews will wind up having the best career.

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by bah007

I don't see it that way. I was one of the few that had Chris Johnson rated very high when he was coming out. I think Spiller will be good, but not CJ good.

I think he is the most athletic back in this class, but I still think Ryan Mathews will wind up having the best career.

that may be true, I'm just stating facts. Another fact is C.J.Spiller is excatly the same size as Chris Johnson. I watched Chris play while @ ECU & made note he ran surprisingly strong between the tackles, that he possessed a 2nd gear to the house. C.J. is just a notch above in press clippings scince coming out of High School as an elite 5 Star recruit being compared to Clinton Portis more than anything. If there is an edge to either player its that Spiller is so intelligent, not to knock on Chris but he was also an academic All-American. He's also very unselfish & a team player who will do as his coaches ask like lead block or help in pass protection (very important to Texans) in addition to carrying the ball & a weapon on special teams. Where Chris Johnsons stock sky-rocketed was running the forty @ the combine in a recorded 4.26, not sure we'll have to just wait a couple more weeks to find out what Spiller runs, while he has clocked a 4.35 the new track @ Indy seems to be much slower so Chris record should remain intact.

[bah007]

Originally Posted by beerlover

that may be true, I'm just stating facts. Another fact is C.J.Spiller is excatly the same size as Chris Johnson. I watched Chris play while @ ECU & made note he ran surprisingly strong between the tackles, that he possessed a 2nd gear to the house. C.J. is just a notch above in press clippings scince coming out of High School as an elite 5 Star recruit being compared to Clinton Portis more than anything. If there is an edge to either player its that Spiller is so intelligent, not to knock on Chris but he was also an academic All-American. He's also very unselfish & a team player who will do as his coaches ask like lead block or help in pass protection (very important to Texans) in addition to carrying the ball & a weapon on special teams. Where Chris Johnsons stock sky-rocketed was running the forty @ the combine in a recorded 4.26, not sure we'll have to just wait a couple more weeks to find out what Spiller runs, while he has clocked a 4.35 the new track @ Indy seems to be much slower so Chris record should remain intact.

I definitely agree with all of that. I really do like Spiller. I just felt like C.J. had the potential to be elite. I don't feel that with Spiller. Still think he will be very good though.

[HuttoKarl]

My solution if Spiller dropped to us is grab him with a quickness and then target O-line help (Guard, Center) and a later round RB with some size and power like Gerhart or Blount. Fill in our secondary with the rest of our picks.

I'm definitely NOT opposed to drafting two RB's this offseason. I like the depth of the position in this upcoming draft.