Safeties 2010 Draft - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

b0ng · 01-12-2010

OKay, so basically this is the position that I think will get addressed in this year's draft at some point in the first few rounds. We have brought in safeties in the later rounds before and have Eugene Wilson as our best option at FS (if he doesn't retire). I'm hoping the Texans offer Bernard Pollard a great contract and make the SS for the near future.

I would like to discuss who you would love to see the Texans draft at S and I'll try to keep a list with a short bio about each player in the first post.

Eric Berry S, Tennessee: He currently leads all NCAA players in total interceptions, interceptions per game, interception return yards, and interceptions returned for touchdowns. Statistically, Berry is considered to be one of the most dominant defensive backs in NCAA history, often being compared to Ed Reed. - Would require a massive trade-up to get

Earl Thomas S, Texas: Third-year safety who has started 26 games over the last two years ... a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award (nation's top defensive back) ... a consensus first-team All-America selection - Might be available at our pick but not guaranteed

Taylor Mays S, USC: Mays has started every game and has earned All-American honors and All-Pac 10 honors three times. He ended his junior season as one of the top three finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award given to the nation's best defensive back. - Might be available at our pick but not guaranteed

Chad Jones S, LSU: LSU’s starter at free safety in all 12 games in 2009 ... Serves as LSU’s punt returner when backed up against its own endzone ... Has great hands and rarely mishandles a ball ... Fifth on team in tackles with 66 ... Leads team with three interceptions, including two against Louisiana-Lafayette in Week 3 - I don't know much about him but he was projected by the NFL Advisory whatever that he could be a 1st rounder

Morgan Burnett S, Georgia-Tech: Emerged as an All-American as a sophomore... named second team All-America by Rivals, Sports Illustrated and Sporting News... a second team All-ACC selection... tied for first nationally in interceptions (7)... his seven INTs were the most by a Tech player since 1991 and ties for the fourth-most single-season INTs in GT history... had more interceptions in 2008 than the entire Tech team had in all of 2007 - Don't know the projection

Darrell Stuckey S, Kansas: Career Honors: 2009: Lott Trophy Watch List, All-State Good Works Team Nominee. 2008: All-Big 12 First Team, Big 12 Community of Champions member, Big 12 Defensive Player of the Week vs. Missouri, KU Weight Room Award, KU co-Leadership Award, KU Special Teams Player of the Year. 2007: All-Big 12 Honorable Mention (Coaches), KU Defensive Player of the Week (vs. Toledo and co vs. Oklahoma State). - Not getting a lot of pub, but is listed in top 10's in a lot of lists

Nate Allen S, USF: 2009: Among the most accomplished defensive players in USF history ... Played and started in the final 39 games of his career, beginning with the season opener in 2007 and ending with the International Bowl on Jan. 2, 2010 ... Rated as a first or second round talent by most NFL Draft experts ... Named First Team All-BIG EAST by ESPN.com and Phil Steele ... Named Second Team All-BIG East by the league's coaches - Do not have enough information

More Safeties Here.

Honestly, I hope we can snag Thomas, but the more I read about him the less I think he'll be there.

TexansSeminole · 01-12-2010

You can add Morgan Burnett to that list.

Wolf6151 · 01-12-2010

Add Nate Allen and Reshad Jones to that list. We might not get Allen though since he'll most likely go in the early to mid 2nd round and Jones will most likely be a SS in the NFL.

Berry will be gone by the time we pick.
Thomas would be perfect for us.
Mays, Hell NO, will probably be best as a SS and pass coverage ability will make him a poor FS.
Burnett, will be good as well but he might get moved to SS as well.

**badboy** · 01-12-2010

Thomas is the guy if there but I really liked Chad Jones. He is all over the field and smacks people. Allegedly has the speed to play FS. Other than these two no one else really jumps at me at #20.

nero THE zero · 01-12-2010

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Originally Posted by TexansSeminole

You can add Morgan Burnett to that list.

Meh. Color me unimpressed. Maybe it was a product of the bad defense, but the fanfare to production ratio was not in his favor.

I'm no scout, and I only see what the TV shows me, but I just didn't see the playmaking we need on our team from him this season. He's very Dom Barber-like, to me.

TexansSeminole · 01-12-2010

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero

Meh. Color me unimpressed. Maybe it was a product of the bad defense, but the fanfare to production ratio was not in his favor.

I'm no scout, and I only see what the TV shows me, but I just didn't see the playmaking we need on our team from him this season. He's very Dom Barber-like, to me.

I'm a big fan so agree to disagree. The GA Tech D coordinator was fired a couple days ago if that means anything to you.

nero THE zero · 01-12-2010

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Originally Posted by TexansSeminole

I'm a big fan so agree to disagree. The GA Tech D coordinator was fired a couple days ago if that means anything to you.

I'm well aware (I'm a huge GTech fan). Hopefully the Groh rumors are true.

b0ng · 01-12-2010

An LSU fan I know thinks Chad Jones should've stayed for one more year, and is not much more than an in-the-box safety right now.

Mr teX · 01-12-2010

Berry
Mays
Thomas
Jones

If either of the top 2 are there, we need to snag em'.

**badboy** · 01-13-2010

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Originally Posted by Mr teX

Berry
Mays
Thomas
Jones

If either of the top 2 are there, we need to snag em'.

Yep and if Lisa Milano, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Halle Berry or Sandra Bullock is waiting at my door tonight when I drive up, I will invite her in.

Blake · 01-13-2010

I think everyone agrees that Berry will be gone before our pick. We should have either Thomas or Mays drop to us and that should be our pick. Get AJ or Jones to run the card up for us as fast as possible.

Mays slumping this year is the only reason he is even going to be an option for us.

**badboy** · 01-13-2010

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Originally Posted by Super Mario

I think everyone agrees that Berry will be gone before our pick. We should have either Thomas or Mays drop to us and that should be our pick. Get AJ or Jones to run the card up for us as fast as possible.

Mays slumping this year is the only reason he is even going to be an option for us.

Thomas is a top 15, I believe and convince me why you think Mays will be a free safety in NFL? He has had a very down season.

Texan4Ever · 01-13-2010

I can put some insight into Nate Allen from USF. He's tall and weighs around 200-lbs, could use some more bulking up. Reminds me of Ken Hamlin a bit. He reacts really well to the ball and has good instincts but needs to be a little bit more physical.

I think Allen would work well with Bernard Pollard delivering the hammer so I wouldn't be upset if we got him the the 2nd round. IMO, the best FS in the draft.

Mr teX · 01-13-2010

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Originally Posted by badboy

Yep and if Lisa Milano, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Halle Berry or Sandra Bullock is waiting at my door tonight when I drive up, I will invite her in.

I don't think your significant other would like that very much...

Blake · 01-13-2010

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Originally Posted by badboy

Thomas is a top 15, I believe and convince me why you think Mays will be a free safety in NFL? He has had a very down season.

Not trying to convine anyone of anything. I think he is athletic enough to play either safety position. Hell maybe you are right and he is only able to play strong.

I agree with you that Thomas is better and would be a better fit for us. I guess the combine will give us a better idea of where he will be slotted.

**infantrycak** · 01-13-2010

Link

Here is a guy making a case for KC to take Mays at #5.

Cracked me up - he says he can run with Andre Johnson and hit like Bernard Pollard.

JB · 01-13-2010

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Link

Here is a guy making a case for KC to take Mays at #5.

Cracked me up - he says he can run with Andre Johnson and hit like Bernard Pollard.

From that link...

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the freakish athleticism of Adrian Wilson, and the speed of Andre Johnson.

and

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He lands hits that would make Bernard Pollard blush.

TexansSeminole · 01-13-2010

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero

I'm well aware (I'm a huge GTech fan). Hopefully the Groh rumors are true.

Yea, Virginia has had some really good defenses under Groh.

Mr teX · 01-13-2010

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

Link

Here is a guy making a case for KC to take Mays at #5.

Cracked me up - he says he can run with Andre Johnson and hit like Bernard Pollard.

well, he's not exactly lying...

mussop · 01-13-2010

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Originally Posted by Mr teX

well, he's not exactly lying...

Yeh but he forgot to add, instincts of Matt Stevens!

01-12-2010	#1
b0ng Ooops Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 6,837 Rep Power: 27461	Safeties 2010 Draft OKay, so basically this is the position that I think will get addressed in this year's draft at some point in the first few rounds. We have brought in safeties in the later rounds before and have Eugene Wilson as our best option at FS (if he doesn't retire). I'm hoping the Texans offer Bernard Pollard a great contract and make the SS for the near future. I would like to discuss who you would love to see the Texans draft at S and I'll try to keep a list with a short bio about each player in the first post. Eric Berry S, Tennessee: He currently leads all NCAA players in total interceptions, interceptions per game, interception return yards, and interceptions returned for touchdowns. Statistically, Berry is considered to be one of the most dominant defensive backs in NCAA history, often being compared to Ed Reed. - Would require a massive trade-up to get Earl Thomas S, Texas: Third-year safety who has started 26 games over the last two years ... a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award (nation's top defensive back) ... a consensus first-team All-America selection - Might be available at our pick but not guaranteed Taylor Mays S, USC: Mays has started every game and has earned All-American honors and All-Pac 10 honors three times. He ended his junior season as one of the top three finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award given to the nation's best defensive back. - Might be available at our pick but not guaranteed Chad Jones S, LSU: LSU’s starter at free safety in all 12 games in 2009 ... Serves as LSU’s punt returner when backed up against its own endzone ... Has great hands and rarely mishandles a ball ... Fifth on team in tackles with 66 ... Leads team with three interceptions, including two against Louisiana-Lafayette in Week 3 - I don't know much about him but he was projected by the NFL Advisory whatever that he could be a 1st rounder Morgan Burnett S, Georgia-Tech: Emerged as an All-American as a sophomore... named second team All-America by Rivals, Sports Illustrated and Sporting News... a second team All-ACC selection... tied for first nationally in interceptions (7)... his seven INTs were the most by a Tech player since 1991 and ties for the fourth-most single-season INTs in GT history... had more interceptions in 2008 than the entire Tech team had in all of 2007 - Don't know the projection Darrell Stuckey S, Kansas: Career Honors: 2009: Lott Trophy Watch List, All-State Good Works Team Nominee. 2008: All-Big 12 First Team, Big 12 Community of Champions member, Big 12 Defensive Player of the Week vs. Missouri, KU Weight Room Award, KU co-Leadership Award, KU Special Teams Player of the Year. 2007: All-Big 12 Honorable Mention (Coaches), KU Defensive Player of the Week (vs. Toledo and co vs. Oklahoma State). - Not getting a lot of pub, but is listed in top 10's in a lot of lists Nate Allen S, USF: 2009: Among the most accomplished defensive players in USF history ... Played and started in the final 39 games of his career, beginning with the season opener in 2007 and ending with the International Bowl on Jan. 2, 2010 ... Rated as a first or second round talent by most NFL Draft experts ... Named First Team All-BIG EAST by ESPN.com and Phil Steele ... Named Second Team All-BIG East by the league's coaches - Do not have enough information More Safeties Here. Honestly, I hope we can snag Thomas, but the more I read about him the less I think he'll be there. __________________ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Last edited by b0ng; 01-12-2010 at 02:58 PM.

01-12-2010	#3
Wolf6151 Hall of Fame Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pearland, Texas Posts: 2,708 Rep Power: 6036	Re: Safeties 2010 Draft Add Nate Allen and Reshad Jones to that list. We might not get Allen though since he'll most likely go in the early to mid 2nd round and Jones will most likely be a SS in the NFL. Berry will be gone by the time we pick. Thomas would be perfect for us. Mays, Hell NO, will probably be best as a SS and pass coverage ability will make him a poor FS. Burnett, will be good as well but he might get moved to SS as well.

01-12-2010	#4
badboy Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Clear Lake Posts: 19,037 Rep Power: 30910	Re: Safeties 2010 Draft Thomas is the guy if there but I really liked Chad Jones. He is all over the field and smacks people. Allegedly has the speed to play FS. Other than these two no one else really jumps at me at #20. __________________ The sound of marine engines and superchargers soon shall fill the air!

01-12-2010	#8
b0ng Ooops Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 6,837 Rep Power: 27461	Re: Safeties 2010 Draft An LSU fan I know thinks Chad Jones should've stayed for one more year, and is not much more than an in-the-box safety right now. __________________ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

01-12-2010	#9
Mr teX Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Everyone Wants The Throne Posts: 6,285 Rep Power: 11970	Re: Safeties 2010 Draft Berry Mays Thomas Jones If either of the top 2 are there, we need to snag em'.

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TexansSeminole Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 25 Posts: 6,871 Rep Power: 10437	Re: Safeties 2010 Draft You can add Morgan Burnett to that list.

01-13-2010	#11
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,595 Rep Power: 14926	Re: Safeties 2010 Draft I think everyone agrees that Berry will be gone before our pick. We should have either Thomas or Mays drop to us and that should be our pick. Get AJ or Jones to run the card up for us as fast as possible. Mays slumping this year is the only reason he is even going to be an option for us.

01-13-2010	#13
Texan4Ever Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Great State of Texas Section: My couch Age: 23 Posts: 3,946 Rep Power: 10691	Re: Safeties 2010 Draft I can put some insight into Nate Allen from USF. He's tall and weighs around 200-lbs, could use some more bulking up. Reminds me of Ken Hamlin a bit. He reacts really well to the ball and has good instincts but needs to be a little bit more physical. I think Allen would work well with Bernard Pollard delivering the hammer so I wouldn't be upset if we got him the the 2nd round. IMO, the best FS in the draft.

01-13-2010	#16
infantrycak Lead Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 45 Posts: 37,481 Rep Power: 76601	Re: Safeties 2010 Draft Link Here is a guy making a case for KC to take Mays at #5. Cracked me up - he says he can run with Andre Johnson and hit like Bernard Pollard. __________________ The Art of War

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