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Old 01-13-2010   #21
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I would have to disagree. We need to go out and get us some Guards and a Center in this draft. Build the OL for the next 10-15 years.

And then go get us a grizzled vet in FA for a DT. IMO, DT's are like a fine wine, they older they get the better they get. What is it they say? Age and trechery will over come youth and skill. The older you get as a DL the more of a dirty dog you become. Seymour fits right in. This man has at least another 5 in him and would fit right in with Antonio Smith. Maybe their attitude rubs off and Mario.

Thats what I would do but what do I know. I only watched the the Titans and Jets make it to the playoffs with crap QB's but a stellar OLine and DLine.
I don't disagree with your comments on Oline. This thread was "just thinking" after Beerlover emailed me about Spiller. On my current board, I have Asamoah LG in 2nd and Thomas Austin C/G/OT in 5th. Oline would be Brown, Asamoah, Myers (until Kubes comfortable with Austin), Caldwell and Winston. Biesel is back up and Studdard is gone. I would hope Pitts could be on roster to allow a cushion for Asamoah to acclimate.
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3 RB's? I don't like the 1st and 2nd round RB's, seems a waste of picks when good RB's can be had later in the draft and they have such short careers. I think our poor O-line is more to blame for our poor running game. Also I don't think Robert Johnson will be there in the 5th round, I think he'll most likely go in the 3rd. I like the Thomas Austin pick in the 4th, he'd be good value there. I also like Kyle Wilson in the 3rd, he's not great but he's got good speed and seems to have alot of potential. I think with the right coaching Wilson could become very good in a couple years.
How is our record on getting good rbs later? DD and Slaton only come to mind. The first years ago and Slaton one good year. Your theory can be said for all positions so what do we use the 1st and 2nd round for? Trade down scenario this draft reminds me of last one. Nothing happened. If I can get a franchise type player in first I am going to get him. Remember Glenn Coffee is my battle cry.
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Richard Seymour is not a good fit for the Texans. He is a 3-4 DE and we already have defensive tackles like him in Amobi Okoye and Shaun Cody. What we need is a space eater that can take on double teams and allow Okoye or Cody to shoot the gaps.

Here's what I think we should target....

1.) We need to improve our defensive secondary and we need a safety or cover corner. Earl Thomas, Joe Haden, or Patrick Robinson would fullfil this need.

2.) We need new blood in the interior offensive line so I would go after Zane Beadles and push him to OG and Mike Johnson and then find a tough beastly center (Thomas Austin anyone?)

3.) We could use another DT to become are space eater. Dan Williams, Kade Weston, or Cam Thomas would make sense.

4.) We need a productive RB. I think Slaton can make a comeback and I like what I see in Arian Foster and we can keep Moats for depth but it wouldn't hurt to get another RB.

5.) Improve special teams by getting a top notch punter (Zoltan Mesko) and a kicker to compete with Kris Brown. Also, grab a ST player.
Your comments about space eating DT is out of date (it was my position also) as our light DTs have resolved the run issue. Seymour is a 6 year all pro and neither Cody or Okoye stack up. I think he would do very well in our defense.
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Your comments about space eating DT is out of date (it was my position also) as our light DTs have resolved the run issue. Seymour is a 6 year all pro and neither Cody or Okoye stack up. I think he would do very well in our defense.
But does Seymour want to be a 4-3 DT? I don't think so. He wants to be paid as a pass rushing DE which is about $3 mil per year more than a top DT except for Haynesworth.
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But does Seymour want to be a 4-3 DT? I don't think so. He wants to be paid as a pass rushing DE which is about $3 mil per year more than a top DT except for Haynesworth.
Primarily he wants out of Davis land. As a 4-3 tackle on our line, he'd have less wear and tear and a pretty good chance for repeat seasons in playoffs. We have signed other FA in past that wanted to be DE but switched to DT with little or no fuss. Just were not very productive. He can be paid very well by Texans. I think he would like our LBs behind him and if we could improve our Free Safety...
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Primarily he wants out of Davis land. As a 4-3 tackle on our line, he'd have less wear and tear and a pretty good chance for repeat seasons in playoffs. We have signed other FA in past that wanted to be DE but switched to DT with little or no fuss. Just were not very productive. He can be paid very well by Texans. I think he would like our LBs behind him and if we could improve our Free Safety...
He doesn't care about us. He cares about him. He can maximize his value by signing as a 43 DE somewhere else.
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