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Old 01-05-2010   #21
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I did watch him last night and I agree with your assessment. He is not a beast he is a VERY FAST BEAST. Seemed to be very strong also. If he war around in 6th or 7th, I could see picking him up. Don't know his draft status.
Mid-late 1st.
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Kyle Wilson will be nothing more than a nickel corner in the NFL. He is a great athlete but he won't be able to tackle at the next level. That arm tackle crap isn't gonna work.

Brandyn Thompson caught my eye but he is a big time risk taker. He got the pick six but he also got beat deep on the double move for the TD.

Doug Martin also caught my eye on Boise St. He is the RB, only a soph. He didn't have a great game but he got the tough yards against a tough defense.
Good review but I disagree on Wilson. Kyle is same height as DR and 4 lbs heavier. You are correct on arm tackling but that can be fixed. Wilson speed is 4.42 and he exhibited that last night by breaking up a long pass in first four minutes of the game. He then had a good return that was cancelled by a dumb block in the opponent's back by his team mate. That is one of the most stupid penalties a player can do and is the case last night the tackler was not that close to Wilson. He had an unblocked path to QB causing a fumble on a blitz and again the speed was awesome. He did have an error in judgement in 3rd quarter by allowing too much cushion and WR caught the pass. I will probably have him on my board in third round as my first choice.

Thompson, I think you are on target. A risk taker looks great if it works, stupid if it doesn't. Reminds me of P. Buchannan we traded from Oakland.
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For TCU, S Alex Ibiloye looked good. He is undersized for a safety though. He could make a roster as a special teams guy. Could maybe be your sixth DB in a dime set.

LB Daryl Washington is a good tackler and plays well against the run. The TEs abused him in the passing game though.

DE Jerry Hughes looks like a one trick pony to me. Gonna have to be a 34 OLB I think. Great athleticism though.

Jeremy Kerley, a junior, has a future in the NFL as a return specialist. I can pretty much guarantee it.
Our pony is named Connor Barwin and he did ok for his first year.
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Our pony is named Connor Barwin and he did ok for his first year.
He is similar to Barwin. I didn't mean it as an insult to him. He is very good at what he does.
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I'm not sure who your asking but Gerhart , Scott , and Dixon are 235+ . Matthwes is listed at 220 lbs and is faster shiftier .

Now my bias to SEC players will raise it's ugly head , meaning if all else is equal ... go with the SEC . My preference would probably be ( in order ) Matthews , Scott , Dixon , and Gerhart .
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Our pony is named Connor Barwin and he did ok for his first year.
I totally disagree about Barwin . I think he could play OLB especially in a 3-4 . The dude is an athelete , who will only get better because he was a basketball player/ TE .
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Nothing firm either way to my knowledge but a concern would be acceleration and good hips to cover. SImilar to Pollard in running forward to hit and tackle but not as good in coverage. In right system should do very well.
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Holy jeez, Adrian Clayborn was insane last night. Why in the world did he come back for another year? He was easily the best player on the field.
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I hope the Tarrant kid from Ga.Tech comes out.

He's got a history but he looks like a no.1 CB to me.
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Holy jeez, Adrian Clayborn was insane last night. Why in the world did he come back for another year? He was easily the best player on the field.
with all the defensive firepower like suh and mccoy and berry coming out this year he could be top five next year instead of mid-first round this year
i was some what unimpressed by josh morgan who i was told is a a top five talent at de for the yellow jackets
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I hope the Tarrant kid from Ga.Tech comes out.

He's got a history but he looks like a no.1 CB to me.
This is Tarrant's first year playing football, and this was easily his best game of the season.

He's a lot like Jacoby to me in that he'll make a really good play and then marginalize it with a terribly stupid mistake. But, he's definitely got the size, speed, and athleticism that NFL scouts look for.

He'll be back at Tech next year at least to continue to develop.
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i was some what unimpressed by josh morgan who i was told is a a top five talent at de for the yellow jackets
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And, don't let this game fool you. He's a supreme talent. It's not like he had a bad game either. He got some pressures, forced a holding penalty, and was very solid in run support.
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I totally disagree about Barwin . I think he could play OLB especially in a 3-4 . The dude is an athelete , who will only get better because he was a basketball player/ TE .
In our system, he is a one trick pony and I'm ok with that. What he could possibly do in 3-4 does not concern me.
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Robert Sands, West Virginia chech him out i think you will like
I've only watched his last game and did not focus on him as I knew nothing about him. He is a sophomore after red shirt freshman season. I don't think he has played a complete season yet. His 40 is faster than I would have thought for 215 weight but I want a FS drafted sooner. I'd advise him to stay in school at least one more year.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2012&genpos=FS
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I was very disappointed in GT game plan and turned game off at half time. I wanted to watch Dwyer but I think he only got one carry and that was -3 yards. I've been comparing him to Gerhart for Texans but I am pushing JD down.
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I was very disappointed in GT game plan and turned game off at half time. I wanted to watch Dwyer but I think he only got one carry and that was -3 yards. I've been comparing him to Gerhart for Texans but I am pushing JD down.
Should have kept watching, he had a great second half, and the game was competitive until the end.

Dwyer's 100X better than Gerhart too, BTW
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And, don't let this game fool you. He's a supreme talent. It's not like he had a bad game either. He got some pressures, forced a holding penalty, and was very solid in run support.
sorry i'm not saying he didnt have a good game but DERRICK morgan was someone everyone was telling me to watch and i was not ready to crown him after last night i have some tech games dvr'd so i'll watch them and come back with my assessment! deal?
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Should have kept watching, he had a great second half, and the game was competitive until the end.

Dwyer's 100X better than Gerhart too, BTW
He was not mentioned in Houston paper. What were his stats?
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That triple option had no chance against Iowa. They are just too well coached. They have no egos. Nobody tries to be a hero, they just go out there and do their job. Plus, they have tons of guys on that defense that are going to be in the NFL. Most of them will be lower draft picks, but they are still talented.

Adrian Clayborn (DE) Jr
Pat Angerer (MLB) Sr
A.J. Edds (OLB) Sr
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Karl Klug (DT) Jr

All those guys will be in the NFL, maybe even a few others.
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He was not mentioned in Houston paper. What were his stats?
14 carries for 49 yards. Not terrible considering he only got it straight up the gut against a very good defense.
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