A Mock Mock Here

[Honoring Earl 34]

I'm going to a 3-4 and need a NG .

1. Mount Cody other possibility CB Haden from Florida if we totally stink it up .

2. Brandon Ghee other choice will be Dan Williams if we draft Haden .

3. Toby Gerhart other Anthony Dixon or Charles Scott .

Or one of these .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh1OaSHUX9s

[The Cush]

Mount Cody is being labeled as a 2-down DT in the NFL. I dont like using a 1st rounder on someone who won't be a full time player. Joe Haden is someone I really hope we target

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by The Cush

Mount Cody is being labeled as a 2-down DT in the NFL. I dont like using a 1st rounder on someone who won't be a full time player. Joe Haden is someone I really hope we target

In my 3-4 , you need a NG .

[Honoring Earl 34]

Hold the presses , found new prospects .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYiV...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44hBA...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znzzO...eature=related

On a serious note .

“I’m pretty ticked off about the whole thing. The offensive line is costing this whole team right now, so we got to stop. (Ryan) Mallett’s back there, standing there, getting hit every play and that’s on us. It’s not one player; it’s a reflection of all of us. That’s gotta change. That’s unacceptable. This crap happened last year. It’s gotta stop. You got to make up your mind what you’re going to put into it. Our guys are going to get it right. We got some young guys in there playing. We got (Anthony) Oden in there playing right now, but he’s playing hard. We got to eliminate the mental mistakes.”

http://hogblog.nwaonline.net/2009/09...us-uncensored/

[BigBull17]

Originally Posted by The Cush

Mount Cody is being labeled as a 2-down DT in the NFL. I dont like using a 1st rounder on someone who won't be a full time player. Joe Haden is someone I really hope we target

If he makes an impact and makes top 10 vs the run, Ill take it.

[badboy]

You better hope your linebackers can impact the QB because Cody will never touch him. Dan Williams on the other hand is 6'2" 327, often takes on two blockers and actually gets into the QB's personal space occasionally. Hope your guy does not explode into a marshmallow. How do you project your defensive line and backers in your 3-4?

[TheRealJoker]

I highly doubt that Gerhart falls out of the first round. Drafnicks' thoughts on him remind me of when Larry Johnson came out. Johnson was a highly productive back in college (2,000 yards in a season) but was thought to be "too slow" to be a franchise back. This caused him to drop out of the top 10 but he got picked up in the late first round.

I think Gerhart will also be picked in the late 1st round, and I hope its the Texans who end up getting him!!!

[badboy]

Originally Posted by TheRealJoker

I highly doubt that Gerhart falls out of the first round. Drafnicks' thoughts on him remind me of when Larry Johnson came out. Johnson was a highly productive back in college (2,000 yards in a season) but was thought to be "too slow" to be a franchise back. This caused him to drop out of the top 10 but he got picked up in the late first round.

I think Gerhart will also be picked in the late 1st round, and I hope its the Texans who end up getting him!!!

I'm hoping Toby does ok at combine then quickly fades from memory of 31 other teams. I think Spiller and Jonathan Dwyer may go ahead of him. I hope so if we draft later. It is still early, but I have him projected to us in 3rd. Hard runners with stats sometimes fall. He has moved up to 3rd on NFLdraftscout.com behind Spiller and Anthony Dixon. This list does not include juniors.

[Honoring Earl 34]

I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds because there's a bunch of good backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds . Besides RBs tend to have a short shelf life .

Here's some backs picked in the 4th rd , one was a 5th .

Le'Ron McClain
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Tashard Choice
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Sproles
MeWelde Moore
Michael Turner

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...&type=position

[rmartin65]

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds because there's a bunch of good backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds . Besides RBs tend to have a short shelf life .

Here's some backs picked in the 4th rd , one was a 5th .

Le'Ron McClain
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Tashard Choice
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Sproles
MeWelde Moore
Michael Turner

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...&type=position

I really dislike when people pull out lists like this. There are dozens of busts from these rounds too. Fact is, good players from all positions get drafted in all rounds. Yes you can find quality RB's in the middle of the draft, but you can find quality players at other positions as well. It all depends on who you think fills a need best.

[rmartin65]

Originally Posted by badboy

I'm hoping Toby does ok at combine then quickly fades from memory of 31 other teams. I think Spiller and Jonathan Dwyer may go ahead of him. I hope so if we draft later. It is still early, but I have him projected to us in 3rd. Hard runners with stats sometimes fall. He has moved up to 3rd on NFLdraftscout.com behind Spiller and Anthony Dixon. This list does not include juniors.

If Toby runs in the mid 4.5's, I think he will last to the second round. Times between 4.55 and 4.57 get him in the second. If he miraculously runs in the 4.4s, he is a first rounder.

People just see his size and assume he is a straight line back. He has very good agility, he is going to impress at the combine and pro day.

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by rmartin65

I really dislike when people pull out lists like this. There are dozens of busts from these rounds too. Fact is, good players from all positions get drafted in all rounds. Yes you can find quality RB's in the middle of the draft, but you can find quality players at other positions as well. It all depends on who you think fills a need best.

That's true but a RBs value is based so much on his 40 time . He could be really good in college but run a 4.65 and he drops . The thing you can't account for is vision and toughness .

[badboy]

Originally Posted by rmartin65

If Toby runs in the mid 4.5's, I think he will last to the second round. Times between 4.55 and 4.57 get him in the second. If he miraculously runs in the 4.4s, he is a first rounder.

People just see his size and assume he is a straight line back. He has very good agility, he is going to impress at the combine and pro day.

I am paying someone to put a pebble in his shoe. I think him going in the first depends more on a team's need that his speed.

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by badboy

I am paying someone to put a pebble in his shoe. I think him going in the first depends more on a team's need that his speed.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds because there's a bunch of good backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds . Besides RBs tend to have a short shelf life .

Here's some backs picked in the 4th rd , one was a 5th .

Le'Ron McClain
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Tashard Choice
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Sproles
MeWelde Moore
Michael Turner

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...&type=position

Why did Smith not draft a running back in 4th or 5th? He had stated that RB was a priority need.

[rmartin65]

Originally Posted by badboy

I am paying someone to put a pebble in his shoe. I think him going in the first depends more on a team's need that his speed.

Haha, let me know if the guy needs any more funds. I would be willing to cough up some money to get Toby on the team.

I see what you are saying, but I still think speed is a deciding factor. For some teams more than others. That said, I think Gerhart is a first round talent. A team is going to get a huge boost next year, I hope it is the Texans.

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by badboy

Why did Smith not draft a running back in 4th or 5th? He had stated that RB was a priority need.

he knew that injurys would devastate much vaunted depth @ TE so he needed to double up

[badboy]

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

Now thats funny right there.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by beerlover

he knew that injurys would devastate much vaunted depth @ TE so he needed to double up

So that is where my crystal ball went.

[Goldensilence]

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds because there's a bunch of good backs in the 3rd and 4th rounds . Besides RBs tend to have a short shelf life .

Here's some backs picked in the 4th rd , one was a 5th .

Le'Ron McClain
Leon Washington
Marion Barber
Tashard Choice
Brandon Jacobs
Darren Sproles
MeWelde Moore
Michael Turner

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...&type=position

Problem is only one of them has turned into a franchise caliber type back and that's Turner.