An interesting theory on VY, Jeff Fisher, and Bud Adams

[TitanFan]

well if you could address one detail ive brought up then i could talk with you. i most certainly believe everything ive said and i say it after watching every single titan snap for the last 3 and a half years....
u could have addressed how he converts first downs, eats clock, takes pressure off his rb's and opens the game up for them (eg cutback runs from linebackers and def ends who cant over pursue bc f vince's running ability, or how he forces a defensive player to man him every single third down which opens up passing lanes, or how he plays his best in the second half and 4th quarter when games are on the line (see his 6, thats right, 6! 4th quarter comebacks in 32 games started)

the titans went 10-6 the year everyone refers to him as being a "horrible" qb. obviously his numbers werent good, but he made things happen when he ahd to. if u watch titans games you know that.

so yes, i def mean what ive been saying

did u see him break a tackle and roll to the left 2 weeks ago only to throw a bullet to the sideline at full speed across his body 18 yards down field? no one in the league could have made that throw and he made it pinpoint.

if you are a fan, which i doubt, just sit back and watch

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by TitanFan

well if you could address one detail ive brought up then i could talk with you. i most certainly believe everything ive said and i say it after watching every single titan snap for the last 3 and a half years....

You mean like your incorrect winning % stat?

u could have addressed how he converts first downs, eats clock, takes pressure off his rb's and opens the game up for them (eg cutback runs from linebackers and def ends who cant over pursue bc f vince's running ability, or how he forces a defensive player to man him every single third down which opens up passing lanes,

VY's presence does help the running game. Of course the running game was going well already so that isn't all that special.

or how he plays his best in the second half and 4th quarter when games are on the line (see his 6, thats right, 6! 4th quarter comebacks in 32 games started)

Ya sure he does. He is 2 of 8 in the 4th so far this year. Wow what an observant fan you are as a VY worshiper. VY has his worst stats in the 4th.

Career - 52.4 completion %, 9 TD's, 11 INT's, 5.7 ypa, 61.8 QB rating. Good call.

did u see him break a tackle and roll to the left 2 weeks ago only to throw a bullet to the sideline at full speed across his body 18 yards down field? no one in the league could have made that throw and he made it pinpoint.

I know you are already mayonnaising yourself up for a manwhich with Young but bullet? - nobody in the league? LOL - yeah buddy, any other NFL QB is incapable of making an 18 yd throw.

What part of town do you live in? - maybe somebody can direct you to the nearest credibility store.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Bulluck53

After two games, it seems that VY is what Collins was last year. He might be a little more effective in the grand scheme, but he can't be much more. Last year Collins wasn't asked to win games by himself and he controlled the game by taking care of the ball and picking up the occasional 3rd down. This season when the defense went away Collins was called upon to make up the defecit and he's just not capable anymore.

So far VY has done the same this year that Collins did last year. Until CJ is shut down or the defense starts playing like they did earlier in the season we won't see if he truly is that much of an upgrade.

Aaaah... Logic. It's sooo refreshing.
rep for you my good man

[Second Honeymoon]

VY is doing well for the Titans. Quite well. This is going to be tough decision time in Inbredville this offseason.

I have always been a fan of VY, sausage party and all. He did a lot for Texas football and has been pretty classy.

The Patron pics are classic but its not like it was a Village People concert. It wasn't was it?

I hope VY leaves the division myself. If they let VY go, then they have to start over at the QB position. That is music to my Texans fan ears. The fact is that Vince could start showing some of the playmaking ability he showed at Texas and Madison. He could start taking to coaching and put his time in the filmroom. I am worried about that as a Texans fan. I want him gone and playing for like Miami or Carolina or even poor ole Cleveland. Too much upside to mess with.

Let them draft some scrub like we did with Carr and the Chargers did with Leaf. Ask the Steelers how important QB play is and how hard it is to find one who can help you win. They tried to nickel and dime it for almost 3 decades before they went out and spent a 1st Round pick on a real QB prospect. Now look at them. Screw the Titans...let them overpay to draft a scrub.

My problem with VY is football related and that is that he has looked slow and does not look to have the speed to get around the end. He still has some moves though. He also looks a little overweight and STILL displays poor body language on the field. The guy is helping his team win but he needs to take the next step. Here is hoping that its not in a Titans jersey in 2010.

[TitanFan]

i cant deal with you haters anymore. i thought coming on here would be fun, defending vince from the hating trash of the world. but i cant. too much anger. too much frustration. its like arguing with a republican about the economy after they screwed the economy up.

either watch his brilliance or ***** without seeing. either way...next monday is ours and there aint a thing you can do about it. im sick of justifying a 700 winning% QB

sick of it.. watch and obey

vince is god, u r heathens...blasphemy gets u a ticket to hell. right chrsitians?

champs like us/????? baby we were born to run

[TitanFan]

i need a job...republicans fuc ked it up

i need a titan team to win...vince haters are getting in my way

violent revolution

the only answer

?

:'(

[imatexan]

Originally Posted by TitanFan

i need a job...republicans fuc ked it up

i need a titan team to win...vince haters are getting in my way

violent revolution

the only answer

?

:'(

No you need a job because you are a very sad person not because of the Republicans.

You will be even more sad after Monday Night since you are soo sure the titans are going to win!

[TitanFan]

hahahahahahahahaha

we shall see

we shall see

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by TitanFan

i cant deal with you haters anymore. i thought coming on here would be fun, defending vince from the hating trash of the world. but i cant. too much anger. too much frustration. its like arguing with a republican about the economy after they screwed the economy up.

either watch his brilliance or ***** without seeing. either way...next monday is ours and there aint a thing you can do about it. im sick of justifying a 700 winning% QB

sick of it.. watch and obey

vince is god, u r heathens...blasphemy gets u a ticket to hell. right chrsitians?

champs like us/????? baby we were born to run

Awe shucks. Now I feel so bad.

Pull the thong out of your butt, blow the candle out, light some incense and have your moment with your battery powered VY doll. It will work out for you. Well other than the good QB part. But otherwise you will be OK...well not OK but functionally abnormal.

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by TitanFan

i cant deal with you haters anymore. i thought coming on here would be fun, defending vince from the hating trash of the world. but i cant. too much anger. too much frustration. its like arguing with a republican about the economy after they screwed the economy up.

either watch his brilliance or ***** without seeing. either way...next monday is ours and there aint a thing you can do about it. im sick of justifying a 700 winning% QB

sick of it.. watch and obey

vince is god, u r heathens...blasphemy gets u a ticket to hell. right chrsitians?

champs like us/????? baby we were born to run

Originally Posted by TitanFan

i need a job...republicans fuc ked it up

i need a titan team to win...vince haters are getting in my way

violent revolution

the only answer

?

:'(

Proof of the stereotype.

[gtexan02]

Wow, Titans demolish Bills.

Watching VY is weird. He's a poor QB. He makes bad decisions. And yet they're 3-0 since his return. Im not a VY fan, but I can't argue with the results so far. They appear to be a much better team with him in the game than without him.

I think they're out for playoffs this year at 3-6, they'd have to run the table, but i think thtats why they are playing so well. Nothing to lose

[Wolf]

one thing (just going by stats)

titans passing defense

Ben Roethlisberger 363 Yds
Matt Schaub 357 Yds
Mark Sanchez 171 Yds
David Garrard 323 Yds
Peyton Manning 309 Yds
Tom Brady380 Yds
Bye
David Garrard 139 Yds
Alex Smith 286 Yds
T. Edwards 185 Yds

They have cleaned some things up (well against those QB's atleast)

http://www.nfl.com/teams/tennesseeti...edule?team=TEN

[axman40]

Originally Posted by TitanFan

Bud wanted Vince and Fisher didnt. Fish has held that grudge ever since, never fully embracing VY even after he took an 0-5 team to 8-8 (just look at his post game interviews after the texans or nyg's game of vince's rookie season. he doesn't even bring vince up--he couldn't admit being wrong, just like so many fans and analysts out there) and then the playoffs the next year. The thought that he has held Vince on the bench for his mental health is interesting but ultimately laughable. Common guys, Vince is getting paid millions to play. Furthermore, sitting on the bench would be much tougher on the psyche than playing football for a run first team.

I think what mojo failed to say was that Fisher has been proven wrong about Vince. Fisher should lose his job for this 0-6 start and deserves 0 credit for the 2-0 turnaround since Vince took over.

Fish is Vince's and the Titans' biggest problem. Watch out for the Titans to dominate the clock when they come to Houston. Vince and CJ leading the titans on long first down drives.

we're coming

Then, as one, they begin to speak with the same voice, announcing to the world the imminent arrival of a new alien threat. 'We are coming, we are coming'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yTD8OVHj9U
the horror!

[Blazing Arrow]

Wow I don't think I have seen a guy with 4 red blocks on the rep bar before ...

I think this will be a pretty tough game for a team that has nothing to lose playing a team that is pretty much a must win. On top of that we have a D that seems to have found itself and the league leader in rushing looking to be the 4th player in history to reach the 2k mark.

Glad it it MNF. Win or loss it should be a great game!

[Blazing Arrow]

Originally Posted by Wolf

one thing (just going by stats)

titans passing defense

Ben Roethlisberger 363 Yds
Matt Schaub 357 Yds
Mark Sanchez 171 Yds
David Garrard 323 Yds
Peyton Manning 309 Yds
Tom Brady380 Yds
Bye
David Garrard 139 Yds
Alex Smith 286 Yds
T. Edwards 185 Yds

They have cleaned some things up (well against those QB's atleast)

http://www.nfl.com/teams/tennesseeti...edule?team=TEN

Interesting you do not bring up the rushing yards ...

[imatexan]

You thought Texans fans were bad talking playoffs in past years?

Go check out gotitans!

They are thinking after winning 3 games in a row after losing 6 they still have a shot at the playoffs.



We really do need to get this win next Monday to bring the titans fans back to reality!

[Blazing Arrow]

Originally Posted by imatexan

You thought Texans fans were bad talking playoffs in past years?

Go check out gotitans!

They are thinking after winning 3 games in a row after losing 6 they still have a shot at the playoffs.



We really do need to get this win next Monday to bring the titans fans back to reality!

Funny thing is if you lose you basically give up any shot at the playoffs and you are in our position ... dreaming.

Though we have actuallly made the playoffs so it is not really a dream more of remembering the good times.

BTW: when you make the playoffs you get to play more then 16 games. Just saying.

[imatexan]

Originally Posted by Blazing Arrow

Funny thing is if you lose you basically give up any shot at the playoffs and you are in our position ... dreaming.

Though we have actuallly made the playoffs so it is not really a dream more of remembering the good times.

BTW: when you make the playoffs you get to play more then 16 games. Just saying.

Come on BA you have been saying that for a few years now come up with some new material.

Luckily the Texans will shut you up themself this year.

[Blazing Arrow]

Originally Posted by imatexan

Come on BA you have been saying that for a few years now come up with some new material.

Luckily the Texans will shut you up themself this year.

If Slaton is on the field will our D be called for 12 men?

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by Second Honeymoon

I hope VY leaves the division myself.

Me, too. I might actually wish good things for the guy if he wasn't a Titan. (Although I would continue to push back against the "VY IS GOD" fanboys, because that's how I roll.)