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Old 11-01-2009   #1
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Ok, with half the season done I wanted to share my thoughts for who the Texans should draft next year. Please critique. Oh, I have the Texans picking in the mid-20's. Say 24.

My first wish is to trade up for Suh, Berry or Mays, in that order. If that could not happen, a trade down to get some more picks. I am also hoping the FO signs a veteran DT. For the purpose of this mock, there is no trading. However, the Texans do sign a startable DT.

1) Idaho OG Mike Iupati, 6’5” 330
I am starting to think the running games’ problem is not just the runningback. Yes, I don’t think Slaton is a legitimate starting back. A very good 3rd down back, a great receiver out of the backfield, but the fumbling is killing me. Add in the lack of power, and I just don’t see it. However, the offensive line is a problem. Both the OGs are injured, which hurts. Pitts is old though, and quite a few people were clamoring for a replacement for Brisel. Iupati is raw, after only starting football at 14, but has been progressing by leaps and bounds each year. He is a high reward type of player, and I really only worry about his level of competition.

2) Stanford RB Toby Gerhart, 6’1” 235
You all know I am a fan of Gerhart, notably because of his power, and the fact that he is very consistent. After seeing the team fail time and time again in short yardage situations, power back is a priority. This pick could change because Moats has been playing well, but let us wait until we see it week in and week out.

3) Florida State SS Myron Rolle, 6’2” 223
Rolle took a year off from football to further his education. This will hurt his stock, and make some team very happy next April. Rolle has all the attributes to make him a starting safety.

4) Indiana (PA) CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, 6’1” 205
Small school prospect with great measurables, he shuts down half the field at his level. He can double as a returner, which can only increase his value.

5) Notre Dame S Kyle McCarthy, 6’ 210
McCarthy plays SS at Notre Dame, but he has been a ball hawk all year. He is a very solid tackler, and a blue collar work ethic kind of guy.

5) Oklahoma DT DeMarcus Granger, 6’2” 327
Granger is a hard player to place. He plays next to one of the best DTs in college, so that makes him look better. However, he is a monster that is very strong at the point of attack. Granger has the potential to be a dominant run stopper. He suffered a pretty bad injury last year, it should be looked at.

6) Hillsdale OT Jared Veldheer, 6’8” 321
An athletic freak that has been dominating D2. Definitely a project pick, but with a very high ceiling.

7) Florida International QB Rusty Smith, 6’5” 230
7th rounder, so I was trying to think of a position where the player could take a few years to develop. Schaub is an upper tier QB, no doubt. But face it, he wont stay healthy all year every year. And the thought of Orlovsky backed up by Grossman (or the reverse) does not instill me with confidence. Smith has a pro arm and just needs to work on the nuances of the game.
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I would be happy if it turned out this way. But how about this

Rnd 1 traded for Steven Jackson
Rnd 2 G
Every thing else stays the same


I know you said no trades but I have a gut fealing that the Texans are going to go after Jackson this offseason.
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I would be happy if it turned out this way. But how about this

Rnd 1 traded for Steven Jackson
Rnd 2 G
Every thing else stays the same


I know you said no trades but I have a gut fealing that the Texans are going to go after Jackson this offseason.
I dont know about going after a RB. Sure he is only 26, so he has some good years left, but look at the carries. He will have about 1500 carries by next year. He has a history of injuries as well. I would prefer not to go after him.
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Ok, with half the season done I wanted to share my thoughts for who the Texans should draft next year. Please critique. Oh, I have the Texans picking in the mid-20's. Say 24.

My first wish is to trade up for Suh, Berry or Mays, in that order. If that could not happen, a trade down to get some more picks. I am also hoping the FO signs a veteran DT. For the purpose of this mock, there is no trading. However, the Texans do sign a startable DT.

1) Idaho OG Mike Iupati, 6’5” 330
I am starting to think the running games’ problem is not just the runningback. Yes, I don’t think Slaton is a legitimate starting back. A very good 3rd down back, a great receiver out of the backfield, but the fumbling is killing me. Add in the lack of power, and I just don’t see it. However, the offensive line is a problem. Both the OGs are injured, which hurts. Pitts is old though, and quite a few people were clamoring for a replacement for Brisel. Iupati is raw, after only starting football at 14, but has been progressing by leaps and bounds each year. He is a high reward type of player, and I really only worry about his level of competition.

2) Stanford RB Toby Gerhart, 6’1” 235
You all know I am a fan of Gerhart, notably because of his power, and the fact that he is very consistent. After seeing the team fail time and time again in short yardage situations, power back is a priority. This pick could change because Moats has been playing well, but let us wait until we see it week in and week out.

3) Florida State SS Myron Rolle, 6’2” 223
Rolle took a year off from football to further his education. This will hurt his stock, and make some team very happy next April. Rolle has all the attributes to make him a starting safety.

4) Indiana (PA) CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, 6’1” 205
Small school prospect with great measurables, he shuts down half the field at his level. He can double as a returner, which can only increase his value.

5) Notre Dame S Kyle McCarthy, 6’ 210
McCarthy plays SS at Notre Dame, but he has been a ball hawk all year. He is a very solid tackler, and a blue collar work ethic kind of guy.

5) Oklahoma DT DeMarcus Granger, 6’2” 327
Granger is a hard player to place. He plays next to one of the best DTs in college, so that makes him look better. However, he is a monster that is very strong at the point of attack. Granger has the potential to be a dominant run stopper. He suffered a pretty bad injury last year, it should be looked at.

6) Hillsdale OT Jared Veldheer, 6’8” 321
An athletic freak that has been dominating D2. Definitely a project pick, but with a very high ceiling.

7) Florida International QB Rusty Smith, 6’5” 230
7th rounder, so I was trying to think of a position where the player could take a few years to develop. Schaub is an upper tier QB, no doubt. But face it, he wont stay healthy all year every year. And the thought of Orlovsky backed up by Grossman (or the reverse) does not instill me with confidence. Smith has a pro arm and just needs to work on the nuances of the game.
Cost too much to trade up to top 10 maybe top 5 for guys you list.

1. Your OG while fast for 330lbs is too big and too many good guards & tackle converts to use up a first. Studdard is coming on strong and Myers and Caldwell will start remainder of this season. I think Myers and Caldwell may switch positions but Kubes really likes Myers at center.
2. Gerhart I had at #2 also, but if Moats is the real deal and Kubes does not get him killed being "set up the pass with the run" guy, we will see Moats/Slaton/Brown next year.
3. Your going to draft a SS when Pollard has revitalized your D? He is only 25.
4. I like your CB but I'm not taking a corner here.
5A. Two SS? Maybe one here if Ferguson & Barber are cut.
5B. I like a big nasty here but if you sign one in free agency? Also, if our lighter DTs continue to do well, forget Kubes signing or drafting a big boy. In fact Okam will prob be gone.

I have to change my board as Texans keep winning and we keep dropping in the draft order. LOL
Picking at # 19
1. Haden CB I think Dunta will be on roster either another tag or he will get a long term deal with both Smith and DE compromising. Reeves will be the other starter. Quinn is good and I'd move him to FS next year but I don't think Gary will. He does like CBs and a 1st round may help DR to sign. If DR is signed for only one more year, you have either Quinn or Haden to replace him.
2. Gerhart RB is still my favorite & I have him to replace C. Brown. At 6'1" 235 with 5.5 WR speed, he is too good to turn down regardless of how Moats/Slaton do. I do not repeat do not think Smith will go RB.
3. Jerome Murphy S. FLorida 6'1" CB/FS/KR with 4.48 speed is my FS if Quinn stays at corner. Wilson may last another year.
4. Thomas Austin OG/C/OT Clemson 6'3" 310lbs 5.16 "good feet & sets like an anchor". Will be a Caldwell type and may beat Brisiel out. First off the bench.
5A. Eric Olsen C/LG/OT Notre Dame 6'4" 305lbs 5.26. Started 12 g at LG & moved to C this year. May be gone by this pick. He will be solid.
5b. Tyler Sash SS Iowa 6'1" 210 A fellow poster turned me on to this guy and he blows me away. 5 INTs last year and 5 so far (before Saturday's win over Indiana. He had at least one INT a return for 86 yds and 6 points).
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Cost too much to trade up to top 10 maybe top 5 for guys you list.

1. Your OG while fast for 330lbs is too big and too many good guards & tackle converts to use up a first. Studdard is coming on strong and Myers and Caldwell will start remainder of this season. I think Myers and Caldwell may switch positions but Kubes really likes Myers at center.
2. Gerhart I had at #2 also, but if Moats is the real deal and Kubes does not get him killed being "set up the pass with the run" guy, we will see Moats/Slaton/Brown next year.
3. Your going to draft a SS when Pollard has revitalized your D? He is only 25.
4. I like your CB but I'm not taking a corner here.
5A. Two SS? Maybe one here if Ferguson & Barber are cut.
5B. I like a big nasty here but if you sign one in free agency? Also, if our lighter DTs continue to do well, forget Kubes signing or drafting a big boy. In fact Okam will prob be gone.

I have to change my board as Texans keep winning and we keep dropping in the draft order. LOL
Picking at # 19
1. Haden CB I think Dunta will be on roster either another tag or he will get a long term deal with both Smith and DE compromising. Reeves will be the other starter. Quinn is good and I'd move him to FS next year but I don't think Gary will. He does like CBs and a 1st round may help DR to sign. If DR is signed for only one more year, you have either Quinn or Haden to replace him.
2. Gerhart RB is still my favorite & I have him to replace C. Brown. At 6'1" 235 with 5.5 WR speed, he is too good to turn down regardless of how Moats/Slaton do. I do not repeat do not think Smith will go RB.
3. Jerome Murphy S. FLorida 6'1" CB/FS/KR with 4.48 speed is my FS if Quinn stays at corner. Wilson may last another year.
4. Thomas Austin OG/C/OT Clemson 6'3" 310lbs 5.16 "good feet & sets like an anchor". Will be a Caldwell type and may beat Brisiel out. First off the bench.
5A. Eric Olsen C/LG/OT Notre Dame 6'4" 305lbs 5.26. Started 12 g at LG & moved to C this year. May be gone by this pick. He will be solid.
5b. Tyler Sash SS Iowa 6'1" 210 A fellow poster turned me on to this guy and he blows me away. 5 INTs last year and 5 so far (before Saturday's win over Indiana. He had at least one INT a return for 86 yds and 6 points).
http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/...103109aaa.html
1) Too big? 330 is not that much larger than the average, if I remember correctly. 6'5" is a little tall, I could see that being a problem. I like Caldwell and Studdard, but I still think a more powerful OG would help the run game immensely. Brown-Studdard-Calwell-Iupati-Winston is the line I am feeling.

2) I also dont think Smithiak will go for a RB, especially this early. I hope they do though. Moats looked good, but it was against the Bills, who doesn't look good against them?

3) Yep, even with Pollard I am looking at a SS. We thought we has a SS before with Will Demps, that did not turn out so well. Even so, a backup SS would be useful. It is late 3rd round, I am looking for depth and potential here now.

4) Fair enough, looking at your draft. I will get to yours.

5) I am becoming a big fan of McCarthy. He is instinctive and knows the position. He would be great depth and special teams. I could see your point, we would have quite a few SS. I would probably pick another position in round 3 if it came down to it. Sash is legit, again, I will get back to your draft.

5) Yep, another DT. We traded away TJ. Zgonia is old. Okam is unproven. Another DT would not hurt.

On to your draft:

1) Love the Haden pick. I would pick him, but I think he goes before the Texans pick. He is definitely ahead of Iupati on my board.

2) Agreed

3) I dont know enough about Murphy, but you picked a first round corner. If DR is kept, Quinn could move to FS. I dont have a problem with this pick though. Depth is always good, and here at the bottom of the third a starter wont get picked.

4) Austin is a popular pick here, I had him in earlier versions. He became expendable in my draft because of Iupati. If the draft is going down your way, I would be ecstatic about the pick.

5a) I would be perfectly fine with Olsen. Depth at every OLine spot, this is good.

5b) Sash is coming on strong. He is alot like McCarthy, either one of them I would be happy with the team picking.
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I could go with a bigger guard to power runs but that is not the ZBS. Would be helpful in red zone wouldn't he?
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The thing is, I dont see the ZBS staying. I have not been seeing any improvement in the running game. If anything, it has regressed (aside from the random exceptions).
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I threw this mock together real quick this evening but I think that it addresses most of our needs with the exception of DT that I think we should address in FA since we've proven we're not real good with DT's in the draft.

1. Joe Haden-CB, if Dunta leaves then replacing him will be our top priority since no one that's currently on our roster is good enough to step up as a #1 CB. Haden has all the physical skills he just needs a little coaching on technique and some experience.

2. Nate Allen-FS, Morgan Burnett will most likely be gone in the 1st round and Allen has been moving up draft boards alot lately. I want a good coverage FS/ballhawk.

3. Mike Johnson-OG, might be available and might not if he's gone then the pick is Sergio Render-OG. Both are obvious upgrades to the interior O-line that are much needed.

4. Thomas Austin-OG, should be available and we need a massive talent upgrade on the interior O-line. If he doesn't start by mid year then he should at least be a quality backup. Adding 2 OG's should move Myers and Brisiel to backup rolls where they belong and move Studdard and White off the team where they belong.

5. Anthony Dixon-RB, a power RB who's not perfect but who is in the 5th round. He'll need some work on quickness, speed, and cutting ability but he's got potential.

5. Kyle Jolly-OT, the only depth at OT we've got is Rashad Butler and Tutan Reyes (who?). Jolly has got good size and has started lots of games for N.C. and should have the ability to be a utility O-lineman and decent depth at OT.

6. LeGarrette Blount-RB, I know about the punch and discipline issue with him, I watched the Boise St. game. This pick will be very dependent on how he has handled himself since the incident and on his interviews. If he hasn't changed his attitude then we pick someone else obviously, but if he's had no further incidents, interviews well and seems to have changed his attitude then he's the pick. The guy has talent, size, and power and someone will give him a chance in the NFL. Also in the 6th round it's a very low risk high reward situation. If he plays well great and if he doesn't then we haven't lost anything since most 6th round picks don't make their respective teams rosters anyway.

7. Zoltan Mesko-P, he's big, a good punter, and much younger and cheaper than Turk. Also we wouldn't be wasting a pick on someone who most likely wouldn't make the team anyway. We'd be one of the only teams who's 7th round pick makes the roster. Also how many times are you going to get the chance to draft someone named Zoltan.
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Depends on underclassman who declare? right now I'm not sold on this Senior Class as a whole alone just not that deep to get an impact player, at least right away where the Texans select. So with that in mind I expect Rick Smith to be shopping around for trade down options- you know I keep saying this every year it could be New England they always seem to stockpile picks, this year in fact besides their own they have two extra 2nd rd. picks (Jacksonville & Tennessee). Both those should be very early in the 2nd if a player they covet is still on the board when the Texans pick then I would trade that pick two for one, so my mock draft would have not have a 1st rd. pick but three 2nd rounders

2a. Kareem Jackson, 5-11 192 CB Alabama (Jr.) could play both FS or CB.

2b. Noel Devine, 5-8 176 RB/WR West Virginia (Jr.) teammate of Steve Slaton explosive offensive playmaker like a Percy Harvin or DeSean Jackson.

2c. A.J. Edds, 6-4 244 OLB Iowa (Sr.) premier 4-3 weakside linebacker a coverage specialist who compliments DeMeco & Brian Cushing.

3. J.D. Walton, 6-3 305 C Baylor (Sr.) top notch Center to add inside toughness

4. Mike Neal, 6-3 302 DT Purdue (Sr.) developmental specimen to add to rotation.

5. Josh Pinkard, 6-1 215 FS USC (Sr.) better in coverage than Mays & more diciplined.

6a. (aquired via Travis Johnson) Tony Moeaki, 6-3 252 TE Iowa (Sr.) excellent hands, blocking technique question is will Owen Daniels be re-signed after torn acl?

6b. Lonyae Miller, 5-11 220 RB Fresno State (Sr.) ZBS powerback

7. Josh Hull, 6-3 240 ILB Penn State (another Diles) very productive/instinctive, low cost low maintenance
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The thing is, I dont see the ZBS staying. I have not been seeing any improvement in the running game. If anything, it has regressed (aside from the random exceptions).
I am not sold on the ZBS either although Slaton ran well in it last year. The Oline seems to be improving from what others say so expect Kubes to stick with it. Historically, I have favored the straight approach of trying to blow the dline back with big strong Oline and a strong power runner. An occasional play by a half back on a slant or draw play but move the pile type of a running game. Your guard would be excellent in that offense but we would need a big strong RB (Gerhart?). The ZBS is a Kubiac philosophy as was the "run to set up the pass". We saw how long it took for him to change the latter & I expect the same of the ZBS. To be fair, ZBS did move the ball between the 20s.
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I threw this mock together real quick this evening but I think that it addresses most of our needs with the exception of DT that I think we should address in FA since we've proven we're not real good with DT's in the draft.

1. Joe Haden-CB, if Dunta leaves then replacing him will be our top priority since no one that's currently on our roster is good enough to step up as a #1 CB. Haden has all the physical skills he just needs a little coaching on technique and some experience.

2. Nate Allen-FS, Morgan Burnett will most likely be gone in the 1st round and Allen has been moving up draft boards alot lately. I want a good coverage FS/ballhawk.

3. Mike Johnson-OG, might be available and might not if he's gone then the pick is Sergio Render-OG. Both are obvious upgrades to the interior O-line that are much needed.

4. Thomas Austin-OG, should be available and we need a massive talent upgrade on the interior O-line. If he doesn't start by mid year then he should at least be a quality backup. Adding 2 OG's should move Myers and Brisiel to backup rolls where they belong and move Studdard and White off the team where they belong.

5. Anthony Dixon-RB, a power RB who's not perfect but who is in the 5th round. He'll need some work on quickness, speed, and cutting ability but he's got potential.

5. Kyle Jolly-OT, the only depth at OT we've got is Rashad Butler and Tutan Reyes (who?). Jolly has got good size and has started lots of games for N.C. and should have the ability to be a utility O-lineman and decent depth at OT.

6. LeGarrette Blount-RB, I know about the punch and discipline issue with him, I watched the Boise St. game. This pick will be very dependent on how he has handled himself since the incident and on his interviews. If he hasn't changed his attitude then we pick someone else obviously, but if he's had no further incidents, interviews well and seems to have changed his attitude then he's the pick. The guy has talent, size, and power and someone will give him a chance in the NFL. Also in the 6th round it's a very low risk high reward situation. If he plays well great and if he doesn't then we haven't lost anything since most 6th round picks don't make their respective teams rosters anyway.

7. Zoltan Mesko-P, he's big, a good punter, and much younger and cheaper than Turk. Also we wouldn't be wasting a pick on someone who most likely wouldn't make the team anyway. We'd be one of the only teams who's 7th round pick makes the roster. Also how many times are you going to get the chance to draft someone named Zoltan.
I'm definitely ok with your identification of needs and will give my thoughts below. Still early for mocks but fun ain't it?

1. Haden is my pick for now but I think DR will be a Texan. This will give Haden & Quinn time to develop.
2. Nate Allen 50-50 he will be avail when we draft in 2nd. I like this pick especially if DT has been ruled out by draft as a "need". For some reason, I think of Allen as more SS but he has decent speed and can tackle. He does fit Smithiac's view of a safety that can play either. WIlson is rebounding very well from his injury. Allen link http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2010&genpos=FS NOTE: he was chosen for East-West and Senior bowl 2010. I get a lot of info rom those games.
3. Johnson gone before we pick & might be converted to LT. Sergio Render is a big really strong guard with knock down power but read the Sept 26th note that he needs to step up. Of course he had gone against Suh the week before and their QB was sacked 4 times. Render is recovering from a pectoral tear. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2010&genpos=OG

As I think Studdard, Myers, Caldwell will be the middle Oline, I am drafting guards a bit lower to be my backups in training.
4.Austin is my pick but your comment on Studdard is way off from what I see and hear. He is really stepping up on run blocking (Buffalo of course) and Colts will be a big test. Kubes likes him, too.
5. Dixon in 5th? I rate him higher but like the pick if there.
5B. Jolly no thoughts on him but Walters has him rated as 21st tackle just ahead of UT's Ulatowksi. NFLDraftScout.com has Ulatowski rated but not Senior Jolley. http://walterfootball.com/draft2010OT.php
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Depends on underclassman who declare? right now I'm not sold on this Senior Class as a whole alone just not that deep to get an impact player, at least right away where the Texans select. So with that in mind I expect Rick Smith to be shopping around for trade down options- you know I keep saying this every year it could be New England they always seem to stockpile picks, this year in fact besides their own they have two extra 2nd rd. picks (Jacksonville & Tennessee). Both those should be very early in the 2nd if a player they covet is still on the board when the Texans pick then I would trade that pick two for one, so my mock draft would have not have a 1st rd. pick but three 2nd rounders

2a. Kareem Jackson, 5-11 192 CB Alabama (Jr.) could play both FS or CB.

2b. Noel Devine, 5-8 176 RB/WR West Virginia (Jr.) teammate of Steve Slaton explosive offensive playmaker like a Percy Harvin or DeSean Jackson.

2c. A.J. Edds, 6-4 244 OLB Iowa (Sr.) premier 4-3 weakside linebacker a coverage specialist who compliments DeMeco & Brian Cushing.

3. J.D. Walton, 6-3 305 C Baylor (Sr.) top notch Center to add inside toughness

4. Mike Neal, 6-3 302 DT Purdue (Sr.) developmental specimen to add to rotation.

5. Josh Pinkard, 6-1 215 FS USC (Sr.) better in coverage than Mays & more diciplined.

6a. (aquired via Travis Johnson) Tony Moeaki, 6-3 252 TE Iowa (Sr.) excellent hands, blocking technique question is will Owen Daniels be re-signed after torn acl?

6b. Lonyae Miller, 5-11 220 RB Fresno State (Sr.) ZBS powerback

7. Josh Hull, 6-3 240 ILB Penn State (another Diles) very productive/instinctive, low cost low maintenance
I think this draft will follow last one in no takers for a trade down scenario. Don't know your guys but some thoughts; if Slaton and Moats keep fumbling under control (Moats has a history of TO also) why would Texans use a 2 for same type RB? I just do not see it. If that was there thoughts, I'd rather use the 1st on CJ Spiller as I see him falling a bit even if he remains in Heisman contention. Also, if OD is not on team and you just might be right do we wait until 6th? I am still out on Dreesen and Casey. TE plays a huge role in this offense and I could see a higher pick for a TE who can catch and block.
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I think this draft will follow last one in no takers for a trade down scenario. Don't know your guys but some thoughts; if Slaton and Moats keep fumbling under control (Moats has a history of TO also) why would Texans use a 2 for same type RB? I just do not see it. If that was there thoughts, I'd rather use the 1st on CJ Spiller as I see him falling a bit even if he remains in Heisman contention. Also, if OD is not on team and you just might be right do we wait until 6th? I am still out on Dreesen and Casey. TE plays a huge role in this offense and I could see a higher pick for a TE who can catch and block.
Spiller is a McFadden rehash IMO. Not a lot of power in those legs. Plus he is constantly getting nicked up.

I don't think I've ever watched a Clemson gane where Spiller isn't limping a little bit.
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Spiller is a McFadden rehash IMO. Not a lot of power in those legs. Plus he is constantly getting nicked up.

I don't think I've ever watched a Clemson gane where Spiller isn't limping a little bit.
You could well be correct in your comparison but my point is more if you are going to draft a back similar to what you have go with the guy with the stats. Nicks or not his legs are strong enough to have him in consideration for Heisman.
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You could well be correct in your comparison but my point is more if you are going to draft a back similar to what you have go with the guy with the stats. Nicks or not his legs are strong enough to have him in consideration for Heisman.
So were McFaddens'. Bush won the Heisman.
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You could well be correct in your comparison but my point is more if you are going to draft a back similar to what you have go with the guy with the stats. Nicks or not his legs are strong enough to have him in consideration for Heisman.
The Heisman is irrelevant to NFL potential.
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I think this draft will follow last one in no takers for a trade down scenario. Don't know your guys but some thoughts; if Slaton and Moats keep fumbling under control (Moats has a history of TO also) why would Texans use a 2 for same type RB? I just do not see it. If that was there thoughts, I'd rather use the 1st on CJ Spiller as I see him falling a bit even if he remains in Heisman contention. Also, if OD is not on team and you just might be right do we wait until 6th? I am still out on Dreesen and Casey. TE plays a huge role in this offense and I could see a higher pick for a TE who can catch and block.
Devine is a blur the Texans don't have anything like him, speed kills just look @ what Chris Johnson, DeSean Jackson or Percy Harvin have done in their young careers-

Edds would start @ WILL completing the best LB tandem in the NFL.

Kareem Jackson has a nose for the football plays with sound technique similar to Malcolm Jenkins taken 1st rd. ahead of Cushing in last years draft.

Walton has the game to beat out Myers in training camp/pre-season.

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A three-year starter that transferred from Arizona State. Has done both the shotgun snap in the spread and conventional snap to the quarterback under center. Position/wall off type blocker. Creates inside running lanes by turning the down defender. Solid on the block back or "choke" block. Plays on his feet. Good agility and balance in close quarters. Plays with a good base and works to finish his blocks. Will drop his head at times in pass protection but generally slides and adjusts his mirror to wall off defender. Good hand quickness to lock out and position hands on the breast plate and get push on his target. Strong and crafty, but needs to be more consistent with his ability to recover and anchor in pass protection.
The rest are developmental/depth who address needs

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So were McFaddens'. Bush won the Heisman.
Any player can bust but more are successful. I think Bush was used incorrectly rather the same was Slaton has been so far this year. I am not as familiar with McFadden as Bush. Just saying the higher the round the higher the odds of success.
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No it is not. It is an award based on production in college. It is an indicator or tool to be used as the Doak Walker or the chunk of granite given away in Houston or any other award. It means that player beat out many others. Sure some politicing goes on but it does offer info. I think to many of you get caught up with the few busts rather than those that go on to be very productive players. A war room does not look at just awards but all types of info just like the Wonderlic or however it is spelled.
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Edds would start @ WILL completing the best LB tandem in the NFL.

Kareem Jackson has a nose for the football plays with sound technique similar to Malcolm Jenkins taken 1st rd. ahead of Cushing in last years draft.

Walton has the game to beat out Myers in training camp/pre-season.

The rest are developmental/depth who address needs
Harvin is 5'11" 195 I think. Gonna have to do better than that to convince me. Unless Devine becomes your starter, I do not see a high 2nd on him. We need too many other things. Thanks for info on others.
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