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Old 01-20-2005   #41
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Mel Kiper has the Texans taking Mike Williams from USC with the 13th pick. Also Gardener is a cancer. He has been benched several times over the last couple of years from running bad routes and complaining.

I believe we draft one at 13 or go with what we have!! I love Derrick Armstrong!!
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Old 01-20-2005   #42
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If we are going to trade a draft pick for a reciever, why go after Rod Gardner? As far as I'm concerned he is an underachevier. Could become a solid #2 but nothing more.

If we are looking to trade for a receiver, why not do something like the Jets did with Justin McCareins and get a young, talented receiver who can grow into the position. No names come to mind, but an idea to think about.

As far as TE's in this draft are concerned, after Miller there is no much left to really drool at. Alex Smtih from Stanford might be a decent 2nd round pick, could slip into the late 1st. I think Miller could be picked in the 8-10 range. If we want him we will have to maybe draft up a couple of slots, or hope and pray he falls to us. After that, you can pick and choose who you want.
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If we are going to trade a draft pick for a reciever, why go after Rod Gardner? As far as I'm concerned he is an underachevier. Could become a solid #2 but nothing more.
Basically they are trading for him to be a number 2 WR and probable would not give anymore than a 4th or 5th round pick...BTW, I think he has played better than Bradford over the last couple of years.
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Gardner would be a good #2. However the O-line must be fixed or Carr could have AJ, Moss, T.O. and not be able to get the ball in their hands. That being said, Gaffney and Armsrong are our slot receivers, not our #2 WR, so we do need a good #2 WR, possibly we could take one to fill that need in the draft this year in the 2nd or w/ one of our 3rds. That way this WR could be groomed while we fix our O-line and Gaffney could be our 2 for a year (or he could beat out Gaffney). And if Gaffney proves himself as a legit 2 then we'll have another receiver in our arsenal to go along w/ AJ, Gaffney and Armstrong (still have starling/thomas). I would only want Gardner or Taylor at a discount rate. O-line/D-line #1 priority for FA/draft. Also need a tight end to take pressure off the outside WR's and who can be adequate at blocking.
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I think a TE is the way to go. Either in the draft or with Bubba. As far as a #2 receiver, between Gaffney, Sloan Thomas, Armstrong, and Starling we should be ok. But an improved D-line and O-line should be our main focus.
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i think joppru will be a deciding factor in the draft as well as free agency. joppru offers both receiving skill and blocking skill and i believe just having him on the field and establishing himself will make our offense better. personally i would rather see us pass on franks.

i read an article that said the bucs also are interested in rod gardner. i believe they have 11 picks in this draft and could make an offer to the redskins.

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no one is going to trade for Gardner, he will be a cap casulty most likely.

As far as Joppru goes, after 2 years of IR the odds are so stacked against him right now, and he is on the wrong side of medicine and history, that the Texans would be foolish to think he could be the answer to the problems at TE, they have to have some sort of contingency plan, even if its a Itua Mili from Seattle, but the current group are not going to cut it.
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Default Texans not interested in Rod Gardner?

The 2/28 update of ESPN Insider's Rumor Central has the Texans removed from the Interested Team column next to Rod Gardner. They(the Texans) have been on the list since Gardner's name first appeared on Rumor Central about a month and a half ago...

I think that he would be the ideal #2 WR option because he would come cheap, and has shown more than just flashes of his talent...
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So supposedly he will be a june 1st cap causualty and has been rumored to be cut all offseason. If he is do we take him as our number 2? at this point he is an improvement over bradford and Mathis is still at best a year out from competing...
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I say we release bradford and pick up Gardner the. Def. an upgrade
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Ok I know bradford's hands weren't the greatest but neither are gardeners and he's slower. He's also has an attitude problem which i've not heard of bradford. No need to add a cancer.

I dont see any reason to believe he'd be a #2 with his lack of consistency.
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I agree with Thrill, why bother doing all the releasing and signing? Bradford can play solid football, if not better then Gardener. And we all know that Bradford can come up with some big plays.
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I don't know what ya'll are looking at. Gardner isn't a great player, but a good player, and a clear upgrade over Bradford. Bradford isn't a #2. Bradford, if anything is a #4. Gardner is a legit #2. His stats last year were 51 catches for 650 yards for a TERRIBLE offense. Bradford had 27 catches for 399 yards. When Bradford hit the FA market, there was so much clamor to sign him, he had to come back with his tail between his legs begging to resign here. There is no comparison. You might want to rethink things.
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I actually like our receiving corps. In fact, I think it can be very strong this year, if we can get Carr more protection. I'd pass on Gardner, when I lived in DC-area, he didn't impress me much. He has size, but from DC reporters, they didn't think he had the work ethic to improve his game.
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