Bud looking pretty bad

[Hookem Horns]

As much as we pile on the guy and hate what he did to our team, the city of Houston, etc in all seriousness he isn't looking good these days. Check out this video of him talking about VY, etc. How old is he now?

http://www.titansonline.com/media-ce...d-81caadc6b463

[Double Barrel]

Was this video shot before or after Darth Vader threw him over the ledge? It's always hard to tell with the walking dead.

[NitroGSXR]

I don't know... I kinda think the look matches him. You reap what you sow.

[brakos82]

He's looked bad since about 1967.

[Double Barrel]

Adams is tripping over his own tongue and throwing Collins under the bus with his mancrush on VY. Gotta' wonder what Fisher thinks about the owner stating that VY is the future QB of the Titans, especially when he's battling it out to be a backup at this point.

[TEXANRED]

Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

As much as we pile on the guy and hate what he did to our team, the city of Houston, etc in all seriousness he isn't looking good these days. Check out this video of him talking about VY, etc. How old is he now?

http://www.titansonline.com/media-ce...d-81caadc6b463

I am over hating Bud Adams. I got the Texans now and they are starting to look like a real football team. And I guess after this year and reading all the stuff on Bud he really is the reason why we have the NFL that we have. If it was not for him the AFL might of folded and there never would of been a merger.

And I don't completely blame Adams for the Oilers moving. Eckles, Turkey neck, the Astros owner, the fans, and the sports writers of Houston all helped Adam's decision to leave.

Adams was even supportive of Houston getting the Texans.

Adams was a pioneer of the modern NFL and it will be a sad day when he passes.

Having said that, I hate, hate, the Titans with every fiber in my body.

[Yvette]

I guess you missed Bud dancing in the endzone at the HOF game?

[Hookem Horns]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

Was this video shot before or after Darth Vader threw him over the ledge? It's always hard to tell with the walking dead.

[Showtime100]

Originally Posted by Yvette

I guess you missed Bud dancing in the endzone at the HOF game?

I must have missed that. Was there a Terrible Towel underneath him?

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by TEXANRED

I am over hating Bud Adams. I got the Texans now and they are starting to look like a real football team. And I guess after this year and reading all the stuff on Bud he really is the reason why we have the NFL that we have. If it was not for him the AFL might of folded and there never would of been a merger.

And I don't completely blame Adams for the Oilers moving. Eckles, Turkey neck, the Astros owner, the fans, and the sports writers of Houston all helped Adam's decision to leave.

Adams was even supportive of Houston getting the Texans.

Adams was a pioneer of the modern NFL and it will be a sad day when he passes.

Having said that, I hate, hate, the Titans with every fiber in my body.

No offense, TR, but Adams did not need "help". He's a multi-millionaire that made that decision all by his lonesome, and if he even had a shred of decency and loyalty to this city, he would have persevered and Reliant would now be his crib and the Houston Oilers would be celebrating their 50th anniversary.

I absolutely refuse to see him as a "victim" that had no options to survive. He left this city holding a $60 million bond that was used to upgrade the Astrodome FOR HIM after he held the team hostage by courting Jacksonville. It was only a few years later that he left town with his tail between his legs and NEVER gave Oilers fans a chance to fight for the team or petition the NFL to keep them and/or the heritage in Houston. He would have outlasted the mayor just like he did all the ones before.

Ralph Wilson said in his HoF announcement press conference that teams form a bond with a community, and the ONLY reason for an owner to leave is greed and to make more money. (Wilson voted against every relocation, btw, because he's a man of character and principles.)

Blaming fans?! We showed up to games for a lame duck team that was playing, at best, mediocre football.

When I see Bud Adams all I see is a big middle finger and a giant F.U. to this city.

As far as supporting the Texans decision, he made money off of it. McNair ponied up a heckuva' lot of $$$ to get this team, and anywhere there is $$$ to be made, ol' Bud Adams is sure to give his approval. I'm sure he would have voted 'yes' to an L.A. franchise, as well (if they ever had their act together).

I'll grant the history of the AFL. But it wasn't Bud that was the pioneer. It was Lamar Hunt that deserves that honor. Without Hunt, the AFL would not have even existed.

Sorry for the rant. Watching six minutes of Bud Adams is six minutes of my life I will never get back, and it just makes me want to vomit.

On the bright side, he could be babbling on about Vince Young as our QB, so there is the silver lining to that storm cloud.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

No offense, TR, but Adams did not need "help". He's a multi-millionaire that made that decision all by his lonesome, and if he even had a shred of decency and loyalty to this city, he would have persevered and Reliant would now be his crib and the Houston Oilers would be celebrating their 50th anniversary.

I absolutely refuse to see him as a "victim" that had no options to survive. He left this city holding a $60 million bond that was used to upgrade the Astrodome FOR HIM after he held the team hostage by courting Jacksonville. It was only a few years later that he left town with his tail between his legs and NEVER gave Oilers fans a chance to fight for the team or petition the NFL to keep them and/or the heritage in Houston. He would have outlasted the mayor just like he did all the ones before.

Ralph Wilson said in his HoF announcement press conference that teams form a bond with a community, and the ONLY reason for an owner to leave is greed and to make more money. (Wilson voted against every relocation, btw, because he's a man of character and principles.)

Blaming fans?! We showed up to games for a lame duck team that was playing, at best, mediocre football.

When I see Bud Adams all I see is a big middle finger and a giant F.U. to this city.

As far as supporting the Texans decision, he made money off of it. McNair ponied up a heckuva' lot of $$$ to get this team, and anywhere there is $$$ to be made, ol' Bud Adams is sure to give his approval. I'm sure he would have voted 'yes' to an L.A. franchise, as well (if they ever had their act together).

I'll grant the history of the AFL. But it wasn't Bud that was the pioneer. It was Lamar Hunt that deserves that honor. Without Hunt, the AFL would not have even existed.

Sorry for the rant. Watching six minutes of Bud Adams is six minutes of my life I will never get back, and it just makes me want to vomit.

On the bright side, he could be babbling on about Vince Young as our QB, so there is the silver lining to that storm cloud.

THIS!!^^^^^^

Do people realize that money is still owed on the original renovations to the Astrodome?? You know, the first time when he threatened to leave the city for Jacksonville?? That debt isn't set to mature for another couple of years...

Victim my ass. The taxpayers of Harris County were / are the victims.

[TEXANRED]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

No offense, TR, but Adams did not need "help". He's a multi-millionaire that made that decision all by his lonesome, and if he even had a shred of decency and loyalty to this city, he would have persevered and Reliant would now be his crib and the Houston Oilers would be celebrating their 50th anniversary.

I absolutely refuse to see him as a "victim" that had no options to survive. He left this city holding a $60 million bond that was used to upgrade the Astrodome FOR HIM after he held the team hostage by courting Jacksonville. It was only a few years later that he left town with his tail between his legs and NEVER gave Oilers fans a chance to fight for the team or petition the NFL to keep them and/or the heritage in Houston. He would have outlasted the mayor just like he did all the ones before.

Ralph Wilson said in his HoF announcement press conference that teams form a bond with a community, and the ONLY reason for an owner to leave is greed and to make more money. (Wilson voted against every relocation, btw, because he's a man of character and principles.)

Blaming fans?! We showed up to games for a lame duck team that was playing, at best, mediocre football.

When I see Bud Adams all I see is a big middle finger and a giant F.U. to this city.

As far as supporting the Texans decision, he made money off of it. McNair ponied up a heckuva' lot of $$$ to get this team, and anywhere there is $$$ to be made, ol' Bud Adams is sure to give his approval. I'm sure he would have voted 'yes' to an L.A. franchise, as well (if they ever had their act together).

I'll grant the history of the AFL. But it wasn't Bud that was the pioneer. It was Lamar Hunt that deserves that honor. Without Hunt, the AFL would not have even existed.

Sorry for the rant. Watching six minutes of Bud Adams is six minutes of my life I will never get back, and it just makes me want to vomit.

On the bright side, he could be babbling on about Vince Young as our QB, so there is the silver lining to that storm cloud.

I am right there with you in terms of hurt feelings. I went to every home game that last year too.

But what I am saying is that we were (as fans) were sold on the fact that we did not need a new stadium. The sport writers had big write ups on how great the dome was, Drayton McClain JR. praised the dome and said we did not need another stadium in this town, Eckles didnt back it, and Turkey neck told us we were not going to consider it and in no way was Adams really going to move the team.

We had 70 people show up for the save the Oilers rally.

We were all to blame for that mess.

[TEXANRED]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

THIS!!^^^^^^

Victim my ass. The taxpayers of Harris County were / are the victims.

Now I never said victim. Adams is as much to blame as everyone else. He is hot headed and temperamental. I am just saying that during that time there was no rational voice and things got out of hand and that is how we ended up where we are now.

If this city showed half as much passion toward the Oilers as they do now we could of gotten a cleveland Brown type deal. But again, 70 people out of 4 million showed up for the rally at city hall. Why would the NFL let us keep the history. I remember Tag saying if the Oilers left we would not get another team.

[Stemp]

Bud Adams leaving Houston was the best thing that happened to Houston Football even though it sucked for all those years. If Adams hadn't moved, we'd still be going to games in the Astrodome and there would still be ZERO tailgating.

[NitroGSXR]

Originally Posted by TEXANRED

Now I never said victim. Adams is as much to blame as everyone else. He is hot headed and temperamental. I am just saying that during that time there was no rational voice and things got out of hand and that is how we ended up where we are now.

If this city showed half as much passion toward the Oilers as they do now we could of gotten a cleveland Brown type deal. But again, 70 people out of 4 million showed up for the rally at city hall. Why would the NFL let us keep the history. I remember Tag saying if the Oilers left we would not get another team.

I remember a bumper sticker that made me cry back in the day...

GO ASTROS!!! And take the Oilers with you.

Some support! Ugh.

[TEXANRED]

Originally Posted by NitroHonda

I remember a bumper sticker that made me cry back in the day...

GO ASTROS!!! And take the Oilers with you.

Some support! Ugh.

Houston is so much of a transplant city that its hard to get rabid support for any one team. Its not like NY, or Chicago, Pit, or Green Bay with generations of loyal sports fans. (lets face it, who the hell wants to go to those places?) Instead we have 5 million people and probably over 50% of those people are not from here. Then when a bond election comes up for a new stadium that would increase there taxes they shoot it down cus they have no real emotional investment in the home team.

[Hervoyel]

When I saw the videos the Chronic put up I lost all taste for kicking Bud around. He's just a dying old man now who I believe wishes things had worked out differently but can't change anything.

[Blazing Arrow]

Originally Posted by NitroHonda

I remember a bumper sticker that made me cry back in the day...

GO ASTROS!!! And take the Oilers with you.

Some support! Ugh.

I would love to have one of those stickers ....

[imatexan]

Originally Posted by TEXANRED

Houston is so much of a transplant city that its hard to get rabid support for any one team. Its not like NY, or Chicago, Pit, or Green Bay with generations of loyal sports fans. (lets face it, who the hell wants to go to those places?) Instead we have 5 million people and probably over 50% of those people are not from here. Then when a bond election comes up for a new stadium that would increase there taxes they shoot it down cus they have no real emotional investment in the home team.

Im tired of hearing this "we are a transplant" city.
We are not anymore a transplant city then Chicago or New York, its just that they have been around and had a larger population longer. Pretty much all NY and LA is transplants from other cities/countries just as Houston and pretty much all of America is.
It is not hard to get a rabid fan base in Houston, we support 4 professional teams that all have a great fanbase!!! Also, how did we get 3(maybe 4) brand new stadiums if people "shoot it down", we already proved that statement wrong.
And I am a little confused about your "who the hell wants to go to those places"..are you saying people do not want to go to NY/Chicago!?
I guess I just need some clarification

[Vinny]

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