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Old 07-23-2009   #61
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Dale,

Aren't you going to attack him for saying something positive (or at least not negative) about Ephriam?

I mean this guy seems to think that Butler isn't better than Salaam. Doesn't that make you really really REALLY upset? Dale? is everything okay over there?


By the way, I've rewatched many games from last year and Salaam struggled frequently. Butler doesn't have the game film to be as accurate with our opinions of him but from what I did see in preseason last year he seemed to have more ability than Salaam does now. If anything I would expect Ephriam to be worse this year than he was last year just like he was worse last year than the year before. He's on the way down. Butler should get better. And is already better than Salaam was by years end.
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Old 07-24-2009   #62
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QB - Schaub / Orlovsky / Grossman - 3
RB - Slaton / Brown / Moats / Foster / Leach / Grigsby - 6
WR - Johnson / Walter / Anderson / Davis / Jones - 5
TE - Daniels / Casey / Dressen / Hill - 4
OL - Brown / Pitts / Myers / Brisiel / Winston / Studdard / Caldwell / White / Butler - 9

DE - Williams / Smith / Barwin / Nading - 4
DT - Robinson / Okoye / Cody / Okam - 4
LB - Ryans / Cushing / Adibi / Diles / Bentley / June - 6
CB - Reeves / Robinson / Bennett / Molden / McCain / Quin - 6
S - Ferguson / Barber / Harrison / Nolan / Wilson - 5

K - Brown / Turk - 2

=53. Although I do feel it is a little light on WR and heavy on TE's. I would have liked to have Bulman, as well as possibly TJ ( I said possibly, don't shoot me!) and dropped a CB & S. But which WR would beat out Hill or Casey? and Who in the secondary could I drop?
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QB - Schaub / Orlovsky / Grossman - 3
RB - Slaton / Brown / Moats / Foster / Leach / Grigsby - 6
WR - Johnson / Walter / Anderson / Davis / Jones - 5
TE - Daniels / Casey / Dressen / Hill - 4
OL - Brown / Pitts / Myers / Brisiel / Winston / Studdard / Caldwell / White / Butler - 9

DE - Williams / Smith / Barwin / Nading - 4
DT - Robinson / Okoye / Cody / Okam - 4
LB - Ryans / Cushing / Adibi / Diles / Bentley / June - 6
CB - Reeves / Robinson / Bennett / Molden / McCain / Quin - 6
S - Ferguson / Barber / Harrison / Nolan / Wilson - 5

K - Brown / Turk - 2

=53. Although I do feel it is a little light on WR and heavy on TE's. I would have liked to have Bulman, as well as possibly TJ ( I said possibly, don't shoot me!) and dropped a CB & S. But which WR would beat out Hill or Casey? and Who in the secondary could I drop?
I nominate Harrison.
When you think about it, do we really need FIVE safeties?

And I agree, having only 5 WRs seems a little thin for an offense like ours. Maybe D. Jenkins eeks his way on the squad as a special teamer and 6th WR.
They're (Harrison and Jenkins) both probably bubble guys so whoever shows Coach Joe M. they can make noise on S/T will probably stick.
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Default Re: 52 man roster. Predict yours.

I've read most of the post here and have seen the roster predictions and I see a little problem with most, if not all. They seem to have forgotten the Long Snapper! Who will it be? Clark Harris is listed as the Texans LS, and if I recall, he was the one they picked up last year when Pittman got suspended. I guess the question is, will Kubes go with a proven LS in Harris or will he try "Thor" or maybe Dreessen? My guess is they stick with the proven veteran which means someone else gets cut at another spot.

Now, having said that, I think most of the "backup" spots will depend on whether or not a player is good at Special Teams. That's why I think Chaun Thompson is more likely to stay than Cato June, and Grigsby is more likely to stay than a 4th RB. JMHO!
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I've read most of the post here and have seen the roster predictions and I see a little problem with most, if not all. They seem to have forgotten the Long Snapper! Who will it be? Clark Harris is listed as the Texans LS, and if I recall, he was the one they picked up last year when Pittman got suspended. I guess the question is, will Kubes go with a proven LS in Harris or will he try "Thor" or maybe Dreessen? My guess is they stick with the proven veteran which means someone else gets cut at another spot.

Now, having said that, I think most of the "backup" spots will depend on whether or not a player is good at Special Teams. That's why I think Chaun Thompson is more likely to stay than Cato June, and Grigsby is more likely to stay than a 4th RB. JMHO!
im not sold on the fact that Kubes nor Marciano NEEDS a LS. it's just that Kubiak was intent on developing talent as fast as he could so the lookout for a TE/LS or some other hybrid was put on hold. however, i believe that this time has kind of ended. for example, i remember how Zonina (i didn't even try on that spelling) and Dressen were tried out last TC but neither was really said to be anything special and nobody really argued that the 53rd spot went to the LS and the old guy was set as backup until Pittman doped up. that was when Harris was brought in and did a good job.

one other thing is that he isn't REALLY a veteran... i mean i know its a young team but wasn't those his first four games last year in the NFL? and now we have semi viable second option in either Casey or Dressen who both have "expieriance" (kind of) at this position.
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Default Re: 52 man roster. Predict yours.

Qb-Schaub/Grossman/Dano-3
RB-Slaton/JJohnson/Moats-3
FB-Leech/Grigsby-2
WR-Johnson/Walter/Anderson/JJones/Davis/MJones-6
TE-Daniels/Casey/Hill/Dreessen-4
OL-Myers/Caldwell/Pitts/Brisiel/Studdard/Brown/Winston/Watkins/Butler-9

DE-Williams/Smith/Barwin/Bulman-4
DT-Johnson/Okoye/Robinson/Okam-4
LB-Cushing/DeMeco/Adibi/Bentley/June/Diles-6
CB-Robinson/Reeves/Bennett/Quin/McCain-5
S-Ferguson/Barber/Nolan/Wilson/Harrison-5

K/P-Brown/Turk-2
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I've read most of the post here and have seen the roster predictions and I see a little problem with most, if not all. They seem to have forgotten the Long Snapper! Who will it be? Clark Harris is listed as the Texans LS, and if I recall, he was the one they picked up last year when Pittman got suspended. I guess the question is, will Kubes go with a proven LS in Harris or will he try "Thor" or maybe Dreessen? My guess is they stick with the proven veteran which means someone else gets cut at another spot.

Now, having said that, I think most of the "backup" spots will depend on whether or not a player is good at Special Teams. That's why I think Chaun Thompson is more likely to stay than Cato June, and Grigsby is more likely to stay than a 4th RB. JMHO!


If they are serious about running a 4-3 under and having Cushing playing up on the TE on the strong side quite a bit, then Thompson should at least get a fair opportunity to make the team since he is the only LB on the team with similar size and skill set. I'm guessing Bentley would backup at SLB if Thompson doesn't make the team and I don't think Bentley really fits that position. On the other hand, I'm happy with Diles and Adibi both fitting in at WLB.
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Default Re: 52 man roster. Predict yours.

QB Schaub, Orlovsky, Grossman - 3
RB Slaton, Foster, Moats - 3
FB Leach, Grigsby - 2
TE Daniels, Dressen, Casey, Hill - 4
WR Johnson, Walter, Anderson, Davis, Jones - 5
OL Brown, Pitts, Myers, Brisiel, Winston, Caldwell, Butler, White - 8

DE Williams, Smith, Bulman, Barwin, McGlover - 5
DT Okoye, Deljuan, Okam, Cody - 4
LB Ryans, Cushing, Adibi, Diles, Bentley, Thompson, June - 7
CB Robinson, Reeves, Bennett, Quin, Molden - 5
S Wilson, Barber, Ferguson, Nolan - 4

K Brown
P Turk

I think LS ends up in the hands of a non-specialist. Mostly this is what I think but I went ahead and kept Grossman even though I think his game is crap and Kubiak just wants a 3rd QB. No Studdard. Hopefully Johnson, McCain will be able to slip to the JV Squad. Johnson on PUP in light of his recent surgery. Give others the chance to step up and maybe sends him that final warning. No Harrison. No Chris Brown.
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QB Schaub Grossman Dan O-3
RB Slaton Brown Moates Foster-4
FB Leach Grigsby-2
WR AJ KW DA AD JJ-5
OL Brown Pitts Meyers Briesel Winston Butler Caldwell White-8

DE Mario Smith Barwin Bulman 4
DT Okoye TJ Robinson Cody Okam 5
LB Demeco Adibi Cush Bentley Diles Thompson 6
CB DRob Reeves Quin Bennett Molden 5
S Barber Wilson Ferguson Nolan 4

K/P Brown and Turk 2

thats 48. those are the players who i strongly believe will make this team. other players who are maybes in my book are Darnell Jenkins (JJ hasn't shown much when it comes to producing on offense) McCain (valuable STer) AJ Davis and Matteral Richardson (both fairly hyped CBs) Harrison as well as Cato June.
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QB - Schaub / DanO / Grossman - 3
WR - AJ / Walter / AD / Anderson / Jones - 5
RB - Slaton / Brown / Moats / Foster / Leach - 5
TE - OD / Casey / Dressen / Hill - 4
OL - Brown / Pitts / Myers / Brisiel / Winston / Caldwell / White / Butler - 8
K - Brown / Turk - 2
DE - Williams / Smith / Barwin / Bulman - 4
DT - Robinson / Okoye / Johnson / Codey / Okam - 5
LB - Ryans / Cushing / Adibi / Diles / Bentley / June - 6
CB - Reeves / Robinson / Bennett / Molden / Quin / McCain - 6
S - Ferguson / Wilson / Barber / Harrison / Nolan - 5

This is a prove-it year for TJ and Frank Okam because of the fact that TJ is under producing per his draft position and Okam because of weight. This will be Ferguson's last year as safety because of age though his production has been above reproach. Foster and JJohn are interchangeable the other will make the PS. Studdard is useless with the versatility that Caldwell brings he will be a PS guy as well. Grigsby will be gone because both Casey and Hill have shown flashes of being a solid FB even though they are TEs
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