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Old 05-04-2005   #21
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Yeah, I know...A LOT of wishful thinking went into my comment...
Yea because the pro bowl starters we have and backups who could start on most teams are entrenched on the O-line??????????

I think any lineman that is in camp has a chance to at least be a backup. Until Carr is watching the field more then the roof at Reliant Stadium. The O-line should be open try outs.
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I think any lineman that is in camp has a chance to at least be a backup. Until Carr is watching the field more then the roof at Reliant Stadium. The O-line should be open try outs.
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Old 05-05-2005   #23
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not to be a kill joy BUT, there has to be a reason he was undrafted?
Hope he will be great !
He is undrafted for lack of physical skills. Heart and determination are not measured at the combine very well. That might be the area he excels. Remeber what Rudy said "Never underestimate the heart of a champion." I have seen talented big money teams (Yankees abd Boston) lose to teams like the Marlins and Twins. It all comes down to the "heart" of the team. Certain players add more heart and some don't have any.
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He is undrafted for lack of physical skills.

He is undrafted because he came from a small school. NOT because of physical skills.

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If that's the case, then Demarcus Ware who was the 11th pick overall from Troy State University - (smaller than Southern U) shouldn't have been drafted either.

The Texans took a player from Hampton in the 4th round, a guy from ULaLa in the 6th, and a player from Grambling in the the 7th.

The Packers took a player from Bethune Cookman in the 2nd round

The Patriots drafted a guy from Toledo and one from William Penn.

There were guys drafted from Akron, Albany, Bowling Green, Grand Valley State, Louisiana Monroe, Murray State, Marshall, Saginaw Valley State, and Tuskegee.

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The point is there are a lot of players from small schools who get drafted every year. Some in very high rounds.

Playing in a small school - small conference might handicap a player a bit from a visibility and competition standpoint, but I'd venture a guess that's not the only reason this guy wasn't drafted. There are a lot of undrafted free agents that make it in the NFL but if you're good enough to be drafted, typically the scouts will find you in most cases. Obviously the Texans knew about this guy but didn't think he was draft-worthy. Some guys just need time to develop more than others and that might be the case with this guy. He looks more like a guard than a tackle to me. I wish him and all the other undrafted FAs all the best. For most, it will be their last opportunity to play competitive football.
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I don't know if it was CC who got Joe Jacoby as a free agent out of Louisville but he was a starter for the Hogs .
Is there a reason he could'nt play guard ?
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Just because he played I-AA ball doesn't mean he can't be a star. Here are some names of a few stars that played I-AA ball; Michael Strahan (Texas Southern University), Steve Mcnair (Alcorn State), Daunte Culpepper (Central Florida), Darrell Green (Texas A&I).
Texas A&I (currently known as Texas A&M Kingsville) is actually lower that NCAA div. I-AA it's actually NCAA Div. II, other standouts that went their are John Randle, who was an undrafted free agent, and also a man named Earl Dotson who started at offensive Tackle for Green Bay. Also a former high draft pick played for them but never really broke out for Chicago, Johnny Bailey, when I quit playing college football he still had the single season rushing record for the entire NCAA, don't remember exactly how many yards it was but it was nearly 3,000. Also a personal friend of mine from that school made it onto the roster with Miami as a defensive end, but was diagnosed with diabeties after the 3'rd game of his rookie year. Anyone who knows anything about small school football will know all about Texas A&M Kingsville or Texas A&I
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Hey people let's remember one of the best players to not be drafted in recent memory. Rod Smith has two superbowl rings and likely will be heading to the hall of fame when it is all over. He is one of the prime examples that if given the chance an undrafted player can become the man.
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Chiefs RB Priest Holmes, FB Tony Richardson, C Casey Wiegmann, G Brian Waters and S Sammy Knight; Cardinals QB Kurt Warner; Panthers QB Jake Delhomme; Titans WR Drew Bennett; Broncos WR Rod Smith; Chargers TE Antonio Gates; Lions TE Marcus Pollard; Colts C Jeff Saturday; Browns G Joe Andruzzi; Bears DE Adewale Ogunleye; Vikings DT Pat Williams; Bills LB London Fletcher; Giants LB Antonio Pierce.
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All of these guys were undrafted, so lets not knock smith yet
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