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Old 04-10-2009   #41
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I want to see AJ running with a parachute tied to his back..............................
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What I've commonly encountered are injuries to athletes mixing machines and free weights. They make it a contest that's only goal is moving the heaviest weight possible.................then they go to the free weights and engage equal weights which they cannot handle. One of the most illustrative examples is when this is done on an exercise that I personally feel should probably not be done at all..........the military press, behind the neck.
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No wonder he got fired. They do that in high schools because of limited time and resources, but rarely in college these days will you find a place where all the guys do the same workouts. In the pros, that should never happen.
We've criticized this on the boar for how many years???????...........and he just could never take the hint..........imagine that!!!!!!!!
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wtf....this guys seems to be impersonating a Texans player. TC, I found this guy using one of the links you gave on your blog pointing to bowflex dude. He claims to be Scott Jackson but I'm not sure I'm buying it.

http://www.fullfiguredfella.com/2009...-unmasked.html
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wtf....this guys seems to be impersonating a Texans player. TC, I found this guy using one of the links you gave on your blog pointing to bowflex dude. He claims to be Scott Jackson but I'm not sure I'm buying it.

http://www.fullfiguredfella.com/2009...-unmasked.html
I'm still..................
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Eric Winston said fullfiguredfella was Scott Jackson's website on Matt & Rich's show a few months back.

I think that's how any of us even know about it.
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Eric Winston said fullfiguredfella was Scott Jackson's website on Matt & Rich's show a few months back.

I think that's how any of us even know about it.
hmmm, kinda dorky. Donno if I can pull for this guy anymore. I like my linemen to be mean and nasty like a not all Richard Simmonzy
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What I've commonly encountered are injuries to athletes mixing machines and free weights. They make it a contest that's only goal is moving the heaviest weight possible.................then they go to the free weights and engage equal weights which they cannot handle. One of the most illustrative examples is when this is done on an exercise that I personally feel should probably not be done at all..........the military press, behind the neck.
I see guys doing this at the gym all the time and I just cringe. I can't think of any reason why you would need to go behind the head on the military press unless you are intentionally trying to hurt yourself.

Guys rolling their shoulders when they do shoulder shrugs bugs me as well.
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hmmm, kinda dorky. Donno if I can pull for this guy anymore. I like my linemen to be mean and nasty like a not all Richard Simmonzy

Vinny, don't be so hard on the guy...........even Richard lifts weights.........

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hmmm, kinda dorky. Donno if I can pull for this guy anymore. I like my linemen to be mean and nasty like a not all Richard Simmonzy
Hmm! Richard Simmons may not be able to take a guy down but he could sure chase him.
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Hmm! Richard Simmons may not be able to take a guy down but he could sure chase him.
just give him a little bit of Brian Cushing's super nutrient drink and he'll not only catch him, but he'll shoot into the first round of the draft.
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hmmm, kinda dorky. Donno if I can pull for this guy anymore. I like my linemen to be mean and nasty like a not all Richard Simmonzy
You must not have read much of his blog.

The premise of the entire blog is that he is leading a revolution of massive genetically superior men folk against the tyranny of the small mens that are trying to keep them down.

It is HILARIOUS. His blog is one of my favo time wasting blogs on the web. It is awesome.



Oh and here's the link to my interview with Scott.
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I'm just way out of the loop on this one. I was being silly/not serious on the tough guy thing. I guess I just wasn't expecting that.
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I find these Richard Simmonds references disturbing....

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In the article I link there, Riley makes fun of the lineman that was pushing the car as a part of strength training. And he said well, it's not like he's going to be doing that during the game.

But it seems to me that pushing heavy weight laterally, mimics the explosive, functional strength for football better than whatever combination of iso exercises you could possibly do with machine weights.
To me, pushing a car makes a lot of sense from a training standpoint. Although there's an issue with leaning that far forward for a lineman, pushing up against something like that mimics their motion a lot more than most machine movements and really most bench movements, too.

For a lineman, you'd want to find a position that they normally find themselves in and then strengthen the arm movements particular to theri position.

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How can being Mr. Bowflex Guy prepares you to explode off the line when drills start?

Another thing I disagree with is how the old system said that all players no matter what the position should have the same workout. If I were training guys, that's not how I'd do things.

You know, some NFL teams call their head S&C guy a "Strength, Conditioning and Speed Coach" or they have a separate speed coach.
All players, same workout? Please. That's like training a shut putter and a marathon runner the same way.

Developing explosiveness should be the point of most athlete's training. That's why most powerlifters have speed days where they train with 45-50% of 1RM. And it's been shown that just THINKING of moving the bar fast engages more motor units than thinking of it going slow. I mean, when you're pushing something heavy, it's going to be slow but THINKING that you're going to explode it up engages more motor units even if it's still moving slow.
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All this talk of training and exercise is making me hungry - I need a couple dozen burgers

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