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Old 02-04-2009   #1
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Welcome to February. Valentines day is just around the corner and love is in the air. Know what else the beginning of February marks? My latest Mock draft!!!!

Please contain your excitement.

So as we all know the Texans are picking mid round. In an ideal world, I would love to trade down and acquire additional picks. In my universe, the Texans trade down in the first and acquire an extra 3rd and 5th (similar to last year). Please read my explanation as well as my actual picks. I think the explanations in some ways are more important because it can generate a dialogue more than "Player X is overrated or Player Y won't be there."

This month I have also taken the liberty of adding some potentially interesting FAs that might not get drafted. So, take a look at them too.

So without any further ado, here it is, my February Mock Draft. I will not make another one until March.

As always, enjoy and rip it apart!!!!

1. Alex Mack- Cal-C
I really wanted B.J. Raji but in my mock universe he is already taken. The recent success of Kris Jenkins will cause a lot of 3-4 teams to want to grab Raji as a nosetackle. I honestly think he will be better effective in a system that allows him to penetrate and clog as opposed to just clog. Many 3-4 teams will see his size and likely not use him to the best of his abilities. I personally think heís better in a 4-3, but thatís me. After Raji, the DT tend to be more of the kind we have in abundance. I would love a trade down in this situation and the Texans are able to acquire an extra 3rd and 5th. In the new spot, we take BPA. I think that man is Alex Mack.

I know a lot of you might be screaming at me for taking a Center so high, but please listen to my reasoning. While there are other areas to look at such as DE, CB, or LB I think C is the best place to go here. The 4-3 DE class is not great and there is not a ton of difference between a 3rd rounder and a first rounder in this draft class. LB is also a pretty deep class. While CB or S is a potential area, I am a person that likes to build the trenches. Some might say that Center is not a big concern or that this is too high for an interior lineman. I disagree. I think the weakest link on our Oline is the Center spot. How many drives did we see stall because Myer got pushed backwards? Also if we have our Center holding the point of attack and then pushing it forward, we will convert on far more 3rd and shorts. This means sustaining drives and allowing your D to rest at the expense of your opponents D. Come the 4th quarter, the opposing D will be tired and susceptible to wearing out and running out the clock. In many ways the best way to help our D, is to give the offense a guy that can extend drives.

In a draft you take BPA at a need. Center is a desperate need we have. So, why Mack and not someone like Unger you ask?

Simple. He is a 3 time all Pac 10 Teamer at Center. Some people have been down on Mack and think that Unger is a better prospect. I disagree. Raji has been a powerhouse at the Senior Bowl and the one center that has been able to contain him has been Mack and not Unger. While Mack did get beaten a few times, he contained Raji in 1:1 drills. Unger can not say he was successful in this arena. Mack has good foot work and a powerful base. His slide step looked pretty good and his ability to get down occupy the 330+Lb Raji was impressive. In my mind he is the clear #1 Center on the board.

Is mid 1st a bit high for him? Maybe, but just think what he would do for our Oline. He would help sustain drives and let us rest our D. He is a guy you can plug in the Center spot and not worry about him for about 10+ years.

Other possible selections: Rey Maualuga, USC-LB, Vontae Davis, Illinois-CB, Louis Delmar, Western Michigan-FS

2. William Moore-SS Missouri
When a certain FS from USC opted to return to school everyone had Moore pegged as the best Safety prospect in the draftÖthat is until he stunk up the Senior Bowl. In fact, Moore is has now looked to be dropped behind Louis Delmar, Rashad Johnson, and Sean Smith and possibly even Patrick Chung. However, he still has some skills. It amazes me how one week can torpedo a prospectís chances. He is borderline first round talent that needs a little coaching up. Remember, he was an All-Big XII first-teamer. Remember this is a pass happy conference that included McCoy, Bradford, Robinson, etc slinging the ball all over the place. In that conference he was a first team Safety. THAT has to count for something. I think grabbing him in the second would be a solid pick up and be a near steal. Get him some work with Coach Gibbs (Jr Gibbs that is) and I think we will have a real football player.

Other possible selections: Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech

3. Robert Ayers, Tennessee-DE -Tennessee
Ayers could be a great compliment to Mario. He is an All SEC first teamer with 15.5 TFL. What does that mean? He is being disruptive in the backfield. Add in Mario on the other side and a much different Dline mentality and Ayers could be a solid compliment for years to come. By the way, are you starting to see a pattern with these ďAll Conference Teamers?Ē thatís not a coincidence.

3. Antoine Caldwell-C-Alabama
Now here is where things get interesting. With the first of our bonus picks, I take Caldwell and convert him into a RG. He has good size, good feet, is smart and has everything we could ask for. I have been unimpressed with Briesel and believe that Cladwell can be a long term answer at OG. The beauty here is that he can also be our backup Center! If anything happens to Mack, we have a proven Center to hold the line of attack. If Mack stays healthy, we have an amazing player in RG. Oh, he was also voted AP All-America First Team.

Other possible selections: Auston English, Oklahoma- DE

4. Marcus Freeman-OLB- Ohio State
And here we go. Into the 4th round. Time to separate the Men from the boys in terms of drafting. Great franchises routinely find solid backups and solid football players from here on. Putrid franchises misfire over and over. It is expected to do well with your first 3 picks. But here is where the great franchises separate themselves from the putrids. I say that Freeman could play either OLB position. I would put him at Sam, have Demeco patrol the Mike, and have Adibi stay at Will. That will be a tremendous LB corp in my mind. Oh and it would allow us to get rid of Greenwood. Oh and did I mention he is an All Big 10 second teamer?

5. Gartrell Johnson III, Colorado State-RB
And there he is ladies and gentleman, Steve Slatonís complimentary back. He is not a fast guy but then again thatís not what we are after. We are looking for a guy to grind out small carries, push the pile forward, and hang onto the football. Teaming him with Mack will be a boon to our woeful Red Zone production. All of a sudden we have a Center who can push forward and a RB that can push the pile forward. He is also an All Mountain West First teamer. The fact that he goes to Colorado State should lock up this choice as we all know Kubes loves this school.

5. Sherrod Martin, FS, Troy State
The second of our bonus picks takes a player that I think will contribute. Here is another guy that could be a playmaker. He is an All Sub Belt first teamer and would be a great addition. He could slide into a CB role, play FS, and allow us to get creative on D. Creative Dís mean confusing D. How many times have we been on the receiving end of a creative blitz package? If we can confuse and confound the opposing QB and O coordinator, we will give ourselves more chances to win. It is time our Defenses are not confused and instead are confusing to opponent D coordinators.

6 George Bussey, Louisville- OG
In the ZBS, depth on the line is the name of the game. So, what would you want out of a 6th rounder? How about a guy who is athletic and has good feet? How about a backup guard and maybe even a starting OG in the future? Maybe we could move him over to RG and swap Caldwell to LG. Decisions, Decisions. But you know what, its good to have those kind of decisions as opposed to struggling to find someone as a stop gap. While we are on the topic, how would you like a 2 time-First Team All Big East teamer? Know what I call all that? How about a safe pick that at worst could be a journeyman backup or at best a solid OG starter? I'd call that a damn good 6th round pick.

7. Antonio Dixon, Miami- DT
Dixon was a 3 round talent until he suffered a knee injury. He is good at one thing and one thing only: run defense. On obvious running plays I would stick this behemoth (6í3Ē 328 lbs) onto the DL and have him go at it. He will likely only play maybe 10-15 plays an entire game, but he is a 7th rounder. And if he exerts all his energy on those 10-15 plays he will be a major contributor. Oh, and did I mention, he would be a 7th rounder?! What more do you want out of a 7th rounder? If he can be more than Camp Fodder, we will have done very well here.

FA thoughts
Brandon Swain, West Texas A&M-DE: a strong motor and keeps going and going. He might be drafted, so he might not be possible.

Kevin Huber, Cincinnati- P: He might be gone, but if not, Iíd bring him in. Turk could use a little competition and he is getting up there in age.

Chase Daniel, Missouri-QB: Why not? If anyone can see if he has NFL talent its Kubes.

Ronnie Palmer, Arizona-LB: All he cares about is winning and not stats. Special Teamer and maybe depth later on. These are the kind of role guys that every team needs.

Jared Brock, West Texas A&M-LB: A talented guy without a true position. If he can play, Kubes will find a place. He might be a good Special teams/bench/possibly S type of prospect. Again, in FA you look for guys that slipped, out of position guys, or guys with heart.

Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse-FB:A talented blocker. He might look great in goal line situation. His expertise is blocking. We could use him and Leach as blockers to escort Johnson into the endzone.

Quan Cosby, Texas-WR. He measured in shorter than expected and is 27 years old. That said he has great hands and would be a great punt returner. I am terrified of what JJ will do with the ball. Cosby is an upgrade and has the speed/hands to be a good deep threat.
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2. William Moore-SS Missouri
I have Moore as the 3rd or 4th best S, and would not touch him at all, I do not buy into the injury is causing his problems. I see a WILL LBs being asked to to play as a DB right now. I don't need an Adibi clone.

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Why not, because he has no arm strength, the kid can not make the throws that WCOs QBs have to make. Sorry, I wanted this kid to be a success at the next level, but I currently do not see it.
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Rep for the work Awtysst. It will be interesting to see what players are available when (like Ayers is moving up the boards consistently) but overall good job. Mack in the 1st? Not going to bang it hard because I agree with you on Center. i do think this OL will get better the more they play together... but Myers would be an excellent excellent back up center and backup guard for us.

Punter... we ain't gonna need this undrafted free agent because we're going to get Shane Lechler, best punter in the league and former Aggie!

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Other possible selections: Auston English, Oklahoma- DE
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There's a blast from the past. But did he even suit-up that often in 2008 ? I know he's had a lot of injury problems. And he's going into the NFL Draft this Spring ? Interesting.
But he had an outstanding year in '07, and I saw him in one game that year and the guy was a tremendous edge-rusher and all over the field with a non-stop scooter.
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I have Moore as the 3rd or 4th best S, and would not touch him at all, I do not buy into the injury is causing his problems. I see a WILL LBs being asked to to play as a DB right now. I don't need an Adibi clone.


Why not, because he has no arm strength, the kid can not make the throws that WCOs QBs have to make. Sorry, I wanted this kid to be a success at the next level, but I currently do not see it.
I think it's a possibility that Moore might slide into the third and based on the treatment the S spot has gotten by the front office I am not so sure we are looking for a center field FS. Still thinking we're going to be looking more for the next Steve Atwater as opposed to next Ed Reed. Probably needs to shed 10lbs get back to the size he played as a junior.

Dunno Paine I wouldn't mind another Adibi Clone but that's just me.

Re: Chase Daniel - Problem isn't his arm and it can't be worse then Chad Pennington or Matt Schaub. Thing that is going to hurt him like Troy Smith is his height.


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Agree on center being a spot we could use the upgrade at and while I love Mack as a prospect I think there's better value for out team on defense especially if you have us picking up Caldwell in the third. I think having both Myers and Brisiel hurt us out there inside the twenty but if we can replace one of them I think we're better on the line.

Can't find anything on Auston English but would be strange for him to declare after looking like not suiting up for a lot of the year. If he's healthy great motor rush type of player who I'd like to have but not in the third round at this point.
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I love the pick of Alex Mack. Plus add another 3rd rounder thats a steal. We just locked up the C position for next 10 years. People underestimate the C position. With the succes we have had in the later rounds it just makes that extra pick even more valuable.

2nd Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech Would be my choice. He is a playmaker. Something this D needs.

3rd Robert Ayers, Tennessee-DE -Tennessee I like it.

3rd eh not after Mack. Has to be better value here.

4th eh He lost my interest early in the year.

5th 5. Gartrell Johnson III, Colorado State-RB Love this pick.

6th Havent seen him play

7th value pick

Overall could be a haul.
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Agree on center being a spot we could use the upgrade at and while I love Mack as a prospect I think there's better value for out team on defense especially if you have us picking up Caldwell in the third. I think having both Myers and Brisiel hurt us out there inside the twenty but if we can replace one of them I think we're better on the line.

Can't find anything on Auston English but would be strange for him to declare after looking like not suiting up for a lot of the year. If he's healthy great motor rush type of player who I'd like to have but not in the third round at this point.
When looking at the possible prospects in the 20's(where we would end up after the trade), I was not thrilled at what else was there. I figure the bpa was Mack. Getting Mack and then getting the trade down seemed like a great move in my mind.

I thought Caldwell would be a great potential G and help us develop that nasty offensive line attitude. Good teams have the ability to run the ball down your throat and burn the clock. I thought having both Caldwell and Mack would make us a legit running threat.
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I love the pick of Alex Mack. Plus add another 3rd rounder thats a steal. We just locked up the C position for next 10 years. People underestimate the C position. With the succes we have had in the later rounds it just makes that extra pick even more valuable.

2nd Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech Would be my choice. He is a playmaker. Something this D needs.

3rd Robert Ayers, Tennessee-DE -Tennessee I like it.

3rd eh not after Mack. Has to be better value here.

4th eh He lost my interest early in the year.

5th 5. Gartrell Johnson III, Colorado State-RB Love this pick.

6th Havent seen him play

7th value pick

Overall could be a haul.
I think about Harris pretty hard. I thought though if Moore could drop about 10 lbs he would be in position to have a potentially great year, as he did his Jr year. Instead of Caldwell, who were you thinking in the third?
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you have a lot of interior lineman being taken in this draft... its not that i don't like the picks its just that since Smith has taken over he hasn't taken 2 of any one position in the same draft (Casserly called the 06 one right? with Spencer and Winston?). and now you have 2 guards and another center being drafted in the same one... i don't know its just a bit of a reach for me.
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you have a lot of interior lineman being taken in this draft... its not that i don't like the picks its just that since Smith has taken over he hasn't taken 2 of any one position in the same draft (Casserly called the 06 one right? with Spencer and Winston?). and now you have 2 guards and another center being drafted in the same one... i don't know its just a bit of a reach for me.
I hear what you are saying. However, I think Mack and Caldwell could start for us from day 1. I see Bussey as a solid depth player.

If we do this I could see our line as follows:

Brown-----Pitts-----Mack------Caldwell-----Winston

With that in mind, we would then have Briesel, Bussey, Myers, White, Studdard as Guard/Center depth and Butler/Saalam as Tackle depth. We would likely put Bussey on the PS and cut one of the other four outright.
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I hear what you are saying. However, I think Mack and Caldwell could start for us from day 1. I see Bussey as a solid depth player.

If we do this I could see our line as follows:

Brown-----Pitts-----Mack------Caldwell-----Winston

With that in mind, we would then have Briesel, Bussey, Myers, White, Studdard as Guard/Center depth and Butler/Saalam as Tackle depth. We would likely put Bussey on the PS and cut one of the other four outright.
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V3rm0nt3r is dead on. I would love the Texans to get both Mack/Caldwell but you have to pick your wars to fight, & since the Texans have too many needs, even addressing this by trading down you only get one early pick, maybe, for the OL.
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Most of our needs are on defense though, his reasoning for establishing the run from O-line picks is good. Running the ball means your defense is on the bench. Adding the power back is only furthering the run game in an offense that is borderline elite with such a prolific passing attack. That said, they're probably not going OL 3 times, if 2. The last one is the one that bother me actually, the first two are nice. Still hit a safety and DE early too. Nice mock.
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Awtist, due to being at work and on & off telephone, I will discuss your thread piece by piece as I can. i agree with you on the trenches, but I am draftin the other side of the ball. Offense is not the problem or at least getting down the field. We are in top half there. We have 3 areas of major weakness that have not been addressed in at least two years. #1 is turnovers. Most of that has little to do with Oline but holding onto the ball and QB making better decisions. The two areas I want to see addressed is stopping the run and scoring from within the red zone. We can get to the 20 just have trouble getting it in. WHen we are inside the ten, we should have a power back to do that. If a 200lb Qb can get it across the goal line, the Oline can do the same for a RB. So we need a NT and a power back with some speed.

We also need a DE that can play opposite Mario, we have been hearing that for years. We could use a FS to back up Bennett or Reeves. DR can usually hold his own.

IF Raji is at #15 he is the guy. No one else contains and collapses pocket. This guy stops the run. If gone probably take Vontae Davis, unless trade occurs.
2nd Shonn Green a power back with speed who could be featured back or give Slaton less carries. If Raji gone NT Ron Brace is picked here and Gartrell Johnson in 4th.
3rd Robert Ayers DE just what Dr. Mario ordered. only fear is he might keep climbing.
4th Rashad Johnson FS with speed.

Our needs are fulfilled. More later. Liked your effort.
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Awtist, your use of a FS is a bit high for me. Initially I was looking at Moore in first but he had slopped on some weight and is dropping. He could be a valus at 2nd round but I have re-adjusted my needs. I think a good FS can be had in 4th and use 2nd for a more depesperate area as I stated on previous post.

We agree on Ayers. Kid is tremendous and combine may boost him even more. If we get Raji in first, I would be ok with Ayers in 2nd.
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