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Old 02-03-2009   #181
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That was a weird case.

They let Julius Jones go, which must have made Marion Barber happy. Then they draft Felix Jones, which must have made Marion Barber wonder. Then they draft Tashard Choice, which was a head scratcher.

And they ended up needing all of them and it wasn't enough.
My point exactly!
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I really like Moreno and think he'd be a great player on our team but I would still be dissappointed in the pick. If it comes down to not having any defensive players of value at #15 I really hope we trade down. I'm not a fan of spending an early pick on RB especially with Slaton showing he's our primary guy. I don't want to spend a 1st rd pick on a situational player unless he becomes one of the best pass rushers in the league... that's the only position.
As usual agree with your assesment OMT. I think there is better value for this team at defense specifically LB in the 1st round. The one thing that does however, attract me to a pick like Moreno at 15 is who totes the rock IF Steve Slaton goes down? Brown might be back next year, Ahman is likely cut and while Moats didn't look terrible can he take a big load? What round do we go RB at? I think a guy like Shonn Green or McCoy would fit nicely but how long will they stay around? Jeremiah Johnson in the third? The offense exploded this year because we got a consistent running game going with Slaton and my worry is it will regress big time if Slaton goes down early.

Peyton finished the year strong and lead his team into the playoffs but I think pound for pound you could make a very strong case that no player meant more to their team then Slaton. Of course that's JMO.
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Of coarse Dallas has problems in the locker room but its not because of them drafting Felix Jones when they already had Marion Barber.
I don't know...wasn't there a bit of a rift between Barber and Ol' Jerry midseason about Barber's will to play? Would you play for a guy who drafted not only your replacement, but his back up as well? It could've had an effect. With that soap opera ERRRR locker room, anything is not only possible but likely.

If all else falls through, take another OL guy even if it means shuffling the positions. Even with improved play they were at best average. Sad thing is, with guys like Brisel, Myers (even Pitts, but only because of his age) I think that they are just about maxed out as a group.
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My point exactly!
Although I do think we take a RB somewhere in this draft, I don't think it's going to be in the first 3 rounds.
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Seriously, why do I have Carolina?

I forgot that they don't have pick in the first round.

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Although I do think we take a RB somewhere in this draft, I don't think it's going to be in the first 3 rounds.
This line of thinking is exactly what I am talking about. If a RB is BPA why not draft him??? Just because Slaton is good doesnt mean that the RB position cant be upgraded. Remember this is a running offense.
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Moreno is listed at 207 lbs. I think I remember something that Kubiak said about looking at guys in the 215-230 range. I don't think 7 lbs. will matter, I think we really just need a guy who can run straight into the trenches and not be on the ground at first contact.
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Moreno is listed at 207 lbs. I think I remember something that Kubiak said about looking at guys in the 215-230 range. I don't think 7 lbs. will matter, I think we really just need a guy who can run straight into the trenches and not be on the ground at first contact.
LeSean McCoy is the best RB in this draft IMO. He also could be the BPA when we pick. If we couldnt trade down I would be happy with him. He brings eveything to the table that Slaton does only he hits the hole faster. He and Slaton would be a dynamic duo.

Why draft a lesser player that has less chance to pan out just because he plays defense? I would rather make a strenght stronger.
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This line of thinking is exactly what I am talking about. If a RB is BPA why not draft him??? Just because Slaton is good doesnt mean that the RB position cant be upgraded. Remember this is a running offense.
But remember that it's pretty rare for this group of guys to draft RB's in the first couple of rounds anyway. They were willing to wait until the 3rd and take a "3rd down back" when all they had was Ahman Green.

If an RB is the BPA available, I wouldn't be too upset if they took them. I'd just be very surprised because I don't think they put the same value on that position that a lot of people do. I think they think they can get another great RB later.
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Sorry about that. Skip this section of the board for 3 days and the MB in general for 36 hours and I hold up a mock draft. Wouldn't have gone Smith, but won't name names as I don't want to throw off your draft.

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Who would you have taken? Its not too late to change since Ryan hasnt picked yet.
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Who would you have taken? Its not too late to change since Ryan hasnt picked yet.
What time does Ryan turn into a pumpkin ?

I wouldn't be opposed to start over and you have to send two prospects one pick before it's your pick or you'll pick for them .
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What time does Ryan turn into a pumpkin ?

I wouldn't be opposed to start over and you have to send two prospects one pick before it's your pick or you'll pick for them .
12pm.

We are going to move this to a 12 hour clock.

Anyone can email me their list in case they arent here to pick.
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The Jags need help in the middle of their line, but that can wait until round 2 and 3. The Jags select their MLB of the future... Rey Maualuga, ILB, U.S.C.
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Per Honoring Earl 34's PM, The Packers Select BJ Raji, NT, Boston College.
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The Jags need help in the middle of their line, but that can wait until round 2 and 3. The Jags select their MLB of the future... Rey Maualuga, ILB, U.S.C.
So with that move are they willing to let Mike Peterson walk? IF so I think we could use his services.
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Per Honoring Earl 34's PM, The Packers Select BJ Raji, NT, Boston College.
We're on a roll now .
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We're on a roll now .
I assume he will be the anchor of your new Dom Capers 3-4 defense?

Maybe you can snag an OLB like Clint Sintim in the 2nd?

Mussop and the #10 49ers are on the clock.
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I assume he will be the anchor of your new Dom Capers 3-4 defense?

Maybe you can snag an OLB like Clint Sintim in the 2nd?

Mussop and the #10 49ers are on the clock.
I figured the gap between Raji and the next NG was greater than Brown and as you said ... Sintin . I might had looked at OT if one fell or Jenkins .

I also considered the Patriots , Steelers , and Ravens , all took NGs in the 1st round for their 3-4 . I think Raji is like Wolfork .

As for the ... we're on a roll comment ... it meant we made two picks in one day .
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I find it very interesting that the 49ers are on the clock and BOTH Stafford and Sanchez are still available. Singletary seems to like Hill, but I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted one of these quarterbacks should one or both fall this far.
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Allright let me go through and see whos left.
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