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Old 01-26-2009   #41
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Smith looked solid in the Senior Bowl practices I watched. He looked leaps and bounds better than Oher from what I saw.
Jason Smith wasn't at the Senior Bowl.
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Jason Smith wasn't at the Senior Bowl.
He wasn't? Mayock was showing film of him
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He wasn't? Mayock was showing film of him
He, Orakpo, Laurinaitis, Curry, and 1 or 2 others were the big names missing.
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Jason Smith wasn't at the Senior Bowl.
It appears he wasn't. I gotta go check the DVR to see who I was looking at then. Who has a helmet like Baylor's?
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It appears he wasn't. I gotta go check the DVR to see who I was looking at then. Who has a helmet like Baylor's?
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He, Orakpo, Laurinaitis, and 1 or 2 others were the big names missing.
Georgia Tech DE Michael Johnson was also absent I believe ?
There's always a few big names eligible to attend who don't, based on their theory (and their handlers) that they've got more to lose by playing than to gain, for whatever reason(s) ? And I think that makes sense. It's all business for them at this point.
The absense of Laurinaitis really suprised me though ?
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Georgia Tech DE Michael Johnson was also absent I believe ?
There's always a few big names eligible to attend who don't, based on their theory (and their handlers) that they've got more to lose by playing than to gain, for whatever reason(s) ? And I think that makes sense. It's all business for them at this point.
The absense of Laurinaitis really suprised me though ?
Bad, bad, bad move by M Johnson. Even with a good combine I bet he falls late first at best.
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they call that there thingy Male Hormose Syndrom. gynecomastia

http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/gynecomastia

http://www.healthline.com/adamconten...n=Gynecomastia

So are you posting he has some baggage ?
Are you drinking again TTP?
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FYI- after watching the Senior Bowl I'll bet LZ downgrades Peria Jerry. I would be sick if the Texans used the 15th pick on him, I suppose if they trade down somewhere in the 20's I could live with it depending on what they aquire in return. It's very tricky evaulating DT's. they need to be challenged against NFL type talent to guesstimate how effective they might be @ the next level. for the most part a talent like Raji or Jerry can dominate 90% of the College talent, its that other 10% that worrys me
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FYI- after watching the Senior Bowl I'll bet LZ downgrades Peria Jerry. I would be sick if the Texans used the 15th pick on him, I suppose if they trade down somewhere in the 20's I could live with it depending on what they aquire in return. It's very tricky evaulating DT's. they need to be challenged against NFL type talent to guesstimate how effective they might be @ the next level. for the most part a talent like Raji or Jerry can dominate 90% of the College talent, its that other 10% that worrys me
Why would he downgrade Peria after the Senior Bowl? He had a good week IMO. To many of you are putting too much imphasis on the actual game. The practice is way more telling than an allstar game play.
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Why would he downgrade Peria after the Senior Bowl? He had a good week IMO. To many of you are putting too much imphasis on the actual game. The practice is way more telling than an allstar game play.
you must breakdown the tape. Peria seemed to dominate but on closer viewing he did not dominate everybody. thats the concern, when one particular player has the ability to shutdown someone considered to be the more elite talent. same thing happened to Raji so I'm not just picking on Peria, who I really like, its about being accurate in final grades as talent assesors. like I said game tape does not lie & if I know Lance when he gets time once he breaks it down his opinion will change based on the facts from this week in Mobile. really nothing more than that.
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Why would he downgrade Peria after the Senior Bowl? He had a good week IMO. To many of you are putting too much imphasis on the actual game. The practice is way more telling than an allstar game play.
Because in the practices leading up to the game he apparently had struggles with the better NFL linemen. The guys who will start, or are expected to be able to start. In other words, he wasn't anything special against talent believed to be his equal in a drill that favored him more so than the OL.
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you love the physical presence he brings....I got it.
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But paying two Middle line backers top thirty two money is what is out in left field here.
Why would it be two MLB? Also, Ryans wasn't a top 30 pick technically. Also, as I keep stating, Ryans was an OLB who adapted to the MLB role. If Rey Maualuga starts at SAM, he is thus a SAM. His role has thus adapted. We have then put our three best players onto the field together. Re-read my posts; I've never once suggested Maualuga come off the bench. I've stated that Ryans and Maualuga should play together. Thus, we wouldn't have two "top 30" MLB's.

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If you want to move Ryans out just say so.
If it is best for the team, then yes. Why not be open to the idea of upgrading multiple positions with one pick? If the position precedence has been there before in a player, why shouldn't it be done? Either way, with both of them on the field, it is an upgrade.

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Is Ray better than Ryans?
No. Ryans is an All-Pro NFL player. Rey Maualuga is a very good amateur prospect. This question itself is unfounded and begs the question. In other words, why ask it; the question is poor enough to be thrown out.

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Or are you going to pay two Middle line backers top thirty three money ? Inquiring minds wish to know ? It just makes no damn sense YTF.
Well, I could probably come up with a handful of terms to better question it, but "inquiring" minds leaves a lot on the table. I've talked about this already. At this point you are simply repeating your confusion and hoping that an intelligent and reasoned response won't be given. Enough has been said about that as is, however.

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Your gamble here is this guy will be able to flip his hips and run with the Dallas Clarks of the NFL world. And I'm saying when pigs fly.
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73...=1&nid=1217565

You put far too much into what you don't understand. He ran a 4.5 coming out of HS according to the link provided. Re-watch the USC vs. tOSU game this year.

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We'll see next month at the combine.
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Now if you're going to drop the guy at rush end.....
Was it not you who emphatically and specifically stated that Maualuga could not blitz? Was it not you who declared with certainty that he could not do what you are now actually implying he might best succeed at?
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you are correct Einstein.

The guy that can do both will be the pick at fifteen. And it ain't ray.
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Demeco Ryans is "not real fast"?

Fo cereal?

He only gets across one t.v. screen in 4 seconds? **** John McClain's opinion on speed.

There's nothing about Maualuga and Ryans in the same unit that sucks.
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Why would he downgrade Peria after the Senior Bowl? He had a good week IMO. To many of you are putting too much emphasis on the actual game. The practice is way more telling than an all star game play.

Not as much as you are....that there thingy is a classic.
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Demeco Ryans is "not real fast"?

Fo cereal?

He only gets across one t.v. screen in 4 seconds? **** John McClain's opinion on speed.

There's nothing about Maualuga and Ryans in the same unit that sucks.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...006&genpos=OLB

Demeco ran a 4.66 in 2006 plus he plays faster than his times .
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What are you talking about????
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