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Old 01-21-2009   #1
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Has the Texans selecting: Everette Brown, DE, Florida St. - 6'4" 252lbs

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What I found surprising is that he doesn't have any Safeties going in the 1st. Good news for the Texans. Maybe William Moore or Louis Delmas will fall into laps in the 2nd. I've been impressed watching Delmas in the Senior Bowl practices. He wants to hit!
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Has the Texans selecting: Everette Brown, DE, Florida St. - 6'4" 252lbs

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http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/insi...ory?id=3849927

What I found surprising is that he doesn't have any Safeties going in the 1st. Good news for the Texans. Maybe William Moore or Louis Delmas will fall into laps in the 2nd. I've been impressed watching Delmas in the Senior Bowl practices. He wants to hit!
I went to the Texas Bowl and flat out missed him ... ooops .
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Another link to Kiper's mock. I really don't see the OK State TE going that early (#11). The Texans would be very fortunate for the draft to break this way.
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Moore is dropping like a stone right now. Comments from the senior bowl is that a change to LB might be in his future so I'm not surprised he's no longer a first round pick. Look out for Chung besides Delmas to crrep into late first territory.

Picks I'm against or confused about:
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC - They just broke the record for leat sacks in a season. DE should be a very high possibility. Plus Tighpen looked serviceable.
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri - Too early
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St. - With Capers as DC they're going to a 3-4; I would expect somebody for their front 7 to help the transition.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St. - TE is a need but they probably need a DE more.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia - No way they're letting Sproles go after seeing Turner in Atlanta. Bigger needs than a replacement for LT.
17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida - I have no clue what he's thinking here. Harvin is probably a fringe first rounder and this is a team with solid WRs. They might go for a QB if they don't believe in Klemens. Otherwise CB is an option.
18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU - A 3-4 DE for a 4-3 team. Probably should be Michael Johnson
21 Philadelphia Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Ohio St. - Westbrook replacement not exactly a big priority yet.
23 New England Brian Cushing LB USC - Clint Sintim UVA played in a 3-4 is also graded by most as late first and would make the transition faster.
24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois - Second round prospect
25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Mryland - Miami needs a lot of secondary help so CB would be more logical. Also their WRs are young but serviceable.
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi - Will not drop this far

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Moore is dropping like a stone right now. Comments from the senior bowl is that a change to LB might be in his future so I'm not surprised he's no longer a first round pick. Look out for Chung besides Delmas to crrep into late first territory.

Picks I'm against or confused about:
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC - They just broke the record for leat sacks in a season. DE should be a very high possibility. Plus Tighpen looked serviceable.
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri - Too early
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St. - With Capers as DC they're going to a 3-4; I would expect somebody for their front 7 to help the transition.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St. - TE is a need but they probably need a DE more.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia - No way they're letting Sproles go after seeing Turner in Atlanta. Bigger needs than a replacement for LT.
17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida - I have no clue what he's thinking here. Harvin is probably a fringe first rounder and this is a team with solid WRs. They might go for a QB if they don't believe in Klemens. Otherwise CB is an option.
18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU - A 3-4 DE for a 4-3 team. Probably should be Michael Johnson
21 Philadelphia Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Ohio St. - Westbrook replacement not exactly a big priority yet.
23 New England Brian Cushing LB USC - Clint Sintim UVA played in a 3-4 is also graded by most as late first and would make the transition faster.
24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois - Second round prospect
25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Mryland - Miami needs a lot of secondary help so CB would be more logical. Also their WRs are young but serviceable.
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi - Will not drop this far
Great review but I disagree only on Philly. Up until 2 years back Westbrook was an injury waiting to happen. He has been a stud without a doubt but is getting older and his health has been a late season concern most years. I think Wells is someone they can afford to plug in and take to have a combo.
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Has the Texans selecting: Everette Brown, DE, Florida St. - 6'4" 252lbs

Here's the link:

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/insi...ory?id=3849927

What I found surprising is that he doesn't have any Safeties going in the 1st. Good news for the Texans. Maybe William Moore or Louis Delmas will fall into laps in the 2nd. I've been impressed watching Delmas in the Senior Bowl practices. He wants to hit!
Where does he ahve Raji going???
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Where does he ahve Raji going???
He has them going to Denver 12th overall.
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He has them going to Denver 12th overall.
Thats exactly what Im worried about. Denver and GreenBay switching to a 3/4 are both going to need someone in the middle to build their D's around.
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Thats exactly what Im worried about. Denver and GreenBay switching to a 3/4 are both going to need someone in the middle to build their D's around.
Did Green Bay announce a change to the 3-4 defense? Just because they have Dom Capers doesn't mean they will be a 3-4 defense. He has coached 4-3 defenses as well.
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Another link to Kiper's mock. I really don't see the OK State TE going that early (#11). The Texans would be very fortunate for the draft to break this way.
during Day 3 of the Senior Bowl practice, one of the guys said he had spoken to a scout who focuses just on the Big 12, and the scout had said Pettigrew was the best overall player coming out of the Big 12 this year. Not just offensive, but BPA.
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Did Green Bay announce a change to the 3-4 defense? Just because they have Dom Capers doesn't mean they will be a 3-4 defense. He has coached 4-3 defenses as well.
It was out yestrday that GB was going to run a base 3-4 but would throw in the occasional 4-3 look.
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I'd be good with Brown. I'm starting to think that another direction maybe taken in the first, but I have yet to convince myself that I'm sold on the idea.

For anybody who saw the whole mock, did Brian Cushing go in the 1st, if so where?
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Great review but I disagree only on Philly. Up until 2 years back Westbrook was an injury waiting to happen. He has been a stud without a doubt but is getting older and his health has been a late season concern most years. I think Wells is someone they can afford to plug in and take to have a combo.
I would add on to that comment I think Reid might be more inclined torun the ball more(which they need to) if they had someone they could trust to take the load off Westbrook.

I'm not sold on Mark Sanchez but I think it's possible some team will take the gamble on him being a good enough QB in the first.
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Moore is dropping like a stone right now. Comments from the senior bowl is that a change to LB might be in his future so I'm not surprised he's no longer a first round pick. Look out for Chung besides Delmas to crrep into late first territory.

Picks I'm against or confused about:
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC - They just broke the record for leat sacks in a season. DE should be a very high possibility. Plus Tighpen looked serviceable.
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri - Too early
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St. - With Capers as DC they're going to a 3-4; I would expect somebody for their front 7 to help the transition.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St. - TE is a need but they probably need a DE more.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia - No way they're letting Sproles go after seeing Turner in Atlanta. Bigger needs than a replacement for LT.
17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida - I have no clue what he's thinking here. Harvin is probably a fringe first rounder and this is a team with solid WRs. They might go for a QB if they don't believe in Klemens. Otherwise CB is an option.
18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU - A 3-4 DE for a 4-3 team. Probably should be Michael Johnson
21 Philadelphia Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Ohio St. - Westbrook replacement not exactly a big priority yet.
23 New England Brian Cushing LB USC - Clint Sintim UVA played in a 3-4 is also graded by most as late first and would make the transition faster.
24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois - Second round prospect
25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Mryland - Miami needs a lot of secondary help so CB would be more logical. Also their WRs are young but serviceable.
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi - Will not drop this far
I agree on Eagles and hope that encourages them to trade up with us to get the OT. Say our #15 and a 4th for their two 1s?
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I agree on Eagles and hope that encourages them to trade up with us to get the OT. Say our #15 and a 4th for their two 1s?
You're about 300 points short based on draft pick value charts. Would have to include our 3rd as well or make it 1st and 2nd for their two 1sts. However their earlier 1st, 3rd, and 5th could be done. Or one of theirs 1sts plus Lito.
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He's the best DE in the draft, I'd be thrilled if he fell to us but I'm not overly optomistic.
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Moore is dropping like a stone right now. Comments from the senior bowl is that a change to LB might be in his future so I'm not surprised he's no longer a first round pick. Look out for Chung besides Delmas to crrep into late first territory.

Picks I'm against or confused about:
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC - They just broke the record for leat sacks in a season. DE should be a very high possibility. Plus Tighpen looked serviceable.
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri - Too early
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St. - With Capers as DC they're going to a 3-4; I would expect somebody for their front 7 to help the transition.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St. - TE is a need but they probably need a DE more.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia - No way they're letting Sproles go after seeing Turner in Atlanta. Bigger needs than a replacement for LT.
17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida - I have no clue what he's thinking here. Harvin is probably a fringe first rounder and this is a team with solid WRs. They might go for a QB if they don't believe in Klemens. Otherwise CB is an option.
18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU - A 3-4 DE for a 4-3 team. Probably should be Michael Johnson
21 Philadelphia Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Ohio St. - Westbrook replacement not exactly a big priority yet.
23 New England Brian Cushing LB USC - Clint Sintim UVA played in a 3-4 is also graded by most as late first and would make the transition faster.
24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois - Second round prospect
25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Mryland - Miami needs a lot of secondary help so CB would be more logical. Also their WRs are young but serviceable.
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi - Will not drop this far
Cushing played at the following positions while at USC; DE, ILB, OLB and SS. I'm thinking if he can play all of those positions in Pete Carroll's D, he'll make a pretty smooth transition to the pros, regardless of what D the team that picks him plays.
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He's the best DE in the draft, I'd be thrilled if he fell to us but I'm not overly optomistic.
I dunno if he's the best, but he appears to be atleast one of them and I to will be thrilled if we have a chance at him but I'm anxious about him lasting to #15.
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