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Old 01-19-2009   #1
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I have a friend who is a Cardinal season ticket owner and he was at the game sunday and was tossed to the street for sleeping in his chair. He is a diabetic who had a couple of beers and I think he was speaking kind of funny but I have known others with Diabetes that had a drink or two who started slurring also. He has told me that he was approached at his seat. Asked to step up to the corridor with the police. They asked for his Id which he left in his truck. He explained that he did not think he needed it inside and he would happily get it for them. He explained the Diabetic problem and the officers took him down to ground level and put him in a golf cart and escorted him to the fence and told him to get lost. I do not know the rules or anything but they had no proof of him being drunk besides him telling them he had a couple of beers. I guess I would think that treatment like this to a paying season ticket holder is not what I would consider fair or right. I would like some feed back if you got the time
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I have a friend who is a Cardinal season ticket owner and he was at the game sunday and was tossed to the street for sleeping in his chair. He is a diabetic who had a couple of beers and I think he was speaking kind of funny but I have known others with Diabetes that had a drink or two who started slurring also. He has told me that he was approached at his seat. Asked to step up to the corridor with the police. They asked for his Id which he left in his truck. He explained that he did not think he needed it inside and he would happily get it for them. He explained the Diabetic problem and the officers took him down to ground level and put him in a golf cart and escorted him to the fence and told him to get lost. I do not know the rules or anything but they had no proof of him being drunk besides him telling them he had a couple of beers. I guess I would think that treatment like this to a paying season ticket holder is not what I would consider fair or right. I would like some feed back if you got the time
He needs to wear his medical bracelet or charm that identifies him as a diabetic. That way if he falls into a diabetic coma, whatever, medical personnel can identify that he is in fact diabetic. Or in this case at least have shown the officers who might have seeked medical assistance or escorted him to the First Aid unit there at the stadium.
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I have a friend who is a Cardinal season ticket owner and he was at the game sunday and was tossed to the street for sleeping in his chair. He is a diabetic who had a couple of beers and I think he was speaking kind of funny but I have known others with Diabetes that had a drink or two who started slurring also. He has told me that he was approached at his seat. Asked to step up to the corridor with the police. They asked for his Id which he left in his truck. He explained that he did not think he needed it inside and he would happily get it for them. He explained the Diabetic problem and the officers took him down to ground level and put him in a golf cart and escorted him to the fence and told him to get lost. I do not know the rules or anything but they had no proof of him being drunk besides him telling them he had a couple of beers. I guess I would think that treatment like this to a paying season ticket holder is not what I would consider fair or right. I would like some feed back if you got the time
Not cool. I've seen people asleep at Reliant during Texans games, and it wasn't because they were drunk. They were bored and the Texans were getting killed, but that isn't the point. You shouldn't be thrown out of a game over that unless it is over and people are supposed to be leaving.
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He needs to wear his medical bracelet or charm that identifies him as a diabetic. That way if he falls into a diabetic coma, whatever, medical personnel can identify that he is in fact diabetic. Or in this case at least have shown the officers who might have seeked medical assistance or escorted him to the First Aid unit there at the stadium.
Once he identified himself as having a medical issue, the police were pretty irresponsible for streeting him. But he does need to get a bracelet like Bill says.
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Once he identified himself as having a medical issue, the police were pretty irresponsible for streeting him. But he does need to get a bracelet like Bill says.
I'm just sayin, had he had it on him at the time, they wouldn't have questioned whether or not he was drunk. Should they have been safe and taken the guy to First Aid, erroring to the side of caution? Yes, but then again there are so many drunks at football games. Well, I've seen a few anyway.
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Did he give them grief? Was he combative, verbal abuse, that sort of thing? Sometimes what comes out of someones mouth is more damaging than their actions.

BUT, they should have taken him to the first aide station regardless. A simple finger stick would have told them if his problem was his diabetis.

BTW: He should have known better, IF he is a true insulin dependent diabetic. JMO!
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I think that if someone wants to pay 150 bucks for a nap, that's fine by me. Let him sleep.
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He paid 600 bucks plus parking for the nap. I am not sure the circumstances as I was not there and going on heresay. I just know the Texans and know they help the situation rather than hinder.

Captian Kirk, My Bears friend with the flagpole was drunk, had a disability and was approached after the game by a hostess who said "are you ok" he said "No, I am drunk, disabled and I have no Idea how to get to the platinum lot. the young hostess called a policeman who put him in his golf cart and brought him straight to me in the platinum lot. That is what I call a blessing and My friend said if he were in Chicago people would have just walked by him paying no attention to him. He said that put the Texans trip at the top of the list and he had a big list, 221 consecutive games driving to each and every one.


Back to my friend I am not condoning him or throwing him under the bus, I would just think that he would recieve better treatment for a Playoff game.
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My guess is that since it was a playoff game, they had a much higher level of attendence/craziness in the air. The callous attitude was probably a result of being overprotective and overzealous in their actions, because of the situation.

If you yell fire in a theater with 2 other people, its no big deal. If its packed, it could incite a riot.

I dont think what they did was right--especiallya fter he identified himself as being diabetic--but they were probably just trying to put out a match before it lit a fire
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I agree with the fire and match theory and I appreciate all of your input


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Hey Joe!

Just my quick thought... I think some of this might come from whoever it was that was "in charge" at the time this happened. It was a playoff game and there was a lot of national coverage for the event... It is a good bet whoever it was calling the shots gave the instructions to the other robots to do what they did. I see several factors that could have resulted in what happened, and I think it is just unfortunate that it had to happen the way it did.

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He is a diabetic who had a couple of beers and I think he was speaking kind of funny but I have known others with Diabetes that had a drink or two who started slurring also.
why is it that on the show COPS, every time they pull over a person who can't walk a straight line and ask them how much they had to drink it was always 'a couple' of beers?

Falling asleep at a PLAYOFF game doesn't exactly make me believe that he only had a couple of beers, either. Being a diabetic and drinking alcohol isn't exactly a super smart thing to do, either. IMO

Having said all that though, this is my opinion on the whole situation. That this is a 'NO WIN' situation for the police. If he sits there, has a Diabetic attack and dies then the National Media reports that a Fan ,LITERALLY, DIED at a playoff game. While sitting amongst 70,000 screaming DRUNKEN fans, and nobody cared enough to even check on him. The Media would have a Field Day with that kind of story and the resulting spin off stories from it. OR, if someone did care enough to simply ask the police to 'check up' on the guy, then the cops show up and find that there is a problem but he isn't really too drunk and ask him to leave instead of sitting there sleeping, and potentially having a diabetic attack, then their harrass-ing the guy.

just my $.02 worth of opinion though, and certainly very subject to being completely wrong.

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I have a friend who is a Cardinal season ticket owner and he was at the game sunday and was tossed to the street for sleeping in his chair. He is a diabetic who had a couple of beers and I think he was speaking kind of funny but I have known others with Diabetes that had a drink or two who started slurring also. He has told me that he was approached at his seat. Asked to step up to the corridor with the police. They asked for his Id which he left in his truck. He explained that he did not think he needed it inside and he would happily get it for them. He explained the Diabetic problem and the officers took him down to ground level and put him in a golf cart and escorted him to the fence and told him to get lost. I do not know the rules or anything but they had no proof of him being drunk besides him telling them he had a couple of beers. I guess I would think that treatment like this to a paying season ticket holder is not what I would consider fair or right. I would like some feed back if you got the time
Am I missing something here? Did he not have any ID at all? No driver's license or any way of identifying himself? In that case, I think that the officers might have had a legit reason for suspicion.
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They should have taken him to a first aid station and make sure he is ok...and then if he is, let him go back to his seat....to throw him out of the game....that is wrong.......
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He had his concealed weapons permit with him, And showed it to the officers as well as telling them he has a family history of Diabites, his dad, grand dad, grand mother, sister all have the desease and he carries a card in his wallet that he is a high risk and needs to be checked. He has been told that he has a disorderly conduct and that it might affect his season tickets. That is what the Team has told him and he told me he had 3 coors lights and he got some food for him and some friends and went to his seat and wam he was like out.
When he tells me that he was not drunk I know he is telling the truth. You cannot get a misdemenor or they will take your concealed weapon liscense away. All in All the Team really stunk this up when all they had to do was say sir we need you to come to the clinic so we can check you out. Nope they just said come with me and popped him in a cart and drove him to a fence and said do not come back on property. Whats bad was that one of his friends offered to take him to his truck and let him stay in the truck and the cops said no way will we let him stay on property. He is a borderline diabetic and a beer could set him off IMO. He has every one around him saying he was not beligerant and he was fine but the Security did not see it that way. This stinks as bad as the dude that caught Andre's football at The Fat bald headed old Houston team owners stadium only to get the ball take away and kicked out of the game.
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