David Gibbs Interview/Gibbs Hired

[ArlingtonTexan]

Originally Posted by GP

But what in the world is Bush still doing here? He was wanted when he was in Arizona. When he became available, he was here. Three defensive coaches got canned, but Frank remains.

I suppose the alternative theory is that Bush is happy with whatever role he'll have with the Texans (be it DC or some other role).

Bush has a contract. I am sure I am not the only person on this board who interviewed for a promotion and did not get it. If he is not professional enough to do his job (assuming he does not get DC), then that would be the indication that the Texans made the correct call.

[Killer Bee]

Here's a decent write up on his coaching background. I'm impressed that Baby Gibbs has been affiliated with so many successful pass defenses, although it’s on the Chiefs webpage and obviously skewed to only his accomplishments. Note that his secondary ranked 28th this year in yards allowed, so I would take the articles bias with a grain of salt.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/david_gibbs/

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

Bush has a contract. I am sure I am not the only person on this board who interviewed for a promotion and did not get it. If he is not professional enough to do his job (assuming he does not get DC), then that would be the indication that the Texans made the correct call.

Wrong.

You're the only person on this board who has interviewed for a promotion and not gotten it.

The rest of us were too busy wasting time on TT to interview.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Wrong.

You're the only person on this board who has interviewed for a promotion and not gotten it.

The rest of us were too busy wasting time on TT to interview.

I'm sorry but it's true.

[DiehardChris]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

Unless I am mistaken Kubiak, said that the Texans won't start interviewing in earnest until this week. I am missing the connection that one interview with David Gibbs does or not indicate that the Texans have their DC.

The connection is that if the Texans are considering a "name" DC - they wouldn't be staffing the defensive coaches for him. A name DC is going to want to hire their own staff - or at least most of it. If they were to hire Gibbs, then the DB coach, the LB coach, and a senior adviser (Rhodes) would already be in place. No name DC with an impressive resume is going to want to go somewhere where he can't fill the staff out with his own guys - or, again - at least most of them.

So - to sum up - interviewing him doesn't indicate to me that they have their guy in mind - but hiring him certainly would... or at the very least, it would indicate that they aren't bringing in a "name" DC.

Who knows though? This team has done unpredictable stuff in the past.

[GP]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

Bush has a contract. I am sure I am not the only person on this board who interviewed for a promotion and did not get it. If he is not professional enough to do his job (assuming he does not get DC), then that would be the indication that the Texans made the correct call.

But answer me this: Why is HE retained while three others were canned? Throw in the "non-renewal of contract" for the strength & conditioning coach and it looks like someone on the Texans coaching staff is already making bold decisions.

I guess Kubiak's making those decisions FOR the mystery-man d-coord who has yet to even interview with us?

Why not fire Richard Smith, retain all the other coaches for the sake of procedure, interview for d-coord, and then let the new d-coord determine who he wants and who he doesn't? Unless the new d-coord was already on staff to begin with, saw all the mess himself (up close & personal), and said "This is the route we gotta' go: Fire him, fire him, retain him, fire him..."

Only some weird arrangement between Bush and Smithiak can be the other situation: A "You're our guy if we can't get so-and-so" deal. Which would just seem odd to me.

Bush is a part of the staff for 2009-10. Maybe it's DC, maybe it's on defense, or maybe it's some other position. But it's definitely squirrely if you ask me.

LOL...DiehardChris and I were typing the SAME thing at the same time. Scary, isn't it? You don't want to be on record as "having agreed with GP" on anything. Your rep just dropped a little.

[Shaft75]

I was just watching ABC 13 news and they were showing a segment on the Shriners game in Houston. Why would I bring this up?

Well write in the middle of reading comments in this thread on my iphone, I looked up a the tv and saw some coaches watching the practice today. Good old Kubiak was in the middle with his offensive coordinator, Kyle Shanahan to his left and you guesses it... Frank Bush to his right.

Am I reading to much into it?

[gtexan02]

Originally Posted by Shaft75

I was just watching ABC 13 news and they were showing a segment on the Shriners game in Houston. Why would I bring this up?

Well write in the middle of reading comments in this thread on my iphone, I looked up a the tv and saw some coaches watching the practice today. Good old Kubiak was in the middle with his offensive coordinator, Kyle Shanahan to his left and you guesses it... Frank Bush to his right.

Am I reading to much into it?

Probably. If the Texans 100% knew the next DC of our team was Frank Bush, they would have said so by now. They are waiting to see if they can get someone better that is maybe unavailable for interview and if they can't, then theyl'l probably promote Frank

[ArlingtonTexan]

I am not as sure that coordiantors (on either side) get the right to hire their guys as blindly as some of you suggest. Especially when you are coming into a situation where the entire (both sides) coaching staff was not jettisonned. My other issue, is which candidate has such cloat that he can make that demand? Greg Williams? Last couple of years not that good. Mike Nolan? maybe. Any of the young guys like McDermit? don't think so.

My sense is that like many issues there is a lot more gray as what is "normal" or "usual" in regard to who gets say over a hiring. Pretty sure, Kubiak is taking the last say in hiring even if he get recommndations from the DC. I am sure that a part of the interview process is are familiar with _____ and maybe even a meeting with _____? Is there any reason you don't see being able to work with _____? etc.

[gtexan02]

About Frank Bush: (from our official site)

2007-08: Senior Defensive Assistant, Houston Texans
2006: Asst. Head Coach/Linebackers, Arizona Cardinals
2004-05: Linebackers, Arizona Cardinals
2001-03: Special Teams, Denver Broncos
2000: Secondary/Nickel Package, Denver Broncos
1995-99: Linebackers, Denver Broncos
1992-94: Linebackers, Houston Oilers
1987-92: Scout, Houston Oilers

[bckey]

There is one other thing that bothers me if it is Bush. He and Franklin were supposedly very close so you would think he would have wanted Franklin to stay. It was early on though so their relationship could have eroded over time. Here is a video link.

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv/inde...m_file_id=1560

[GP]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

I am not as sure that coordiantors (on either side) get the right to hire their guys as blindly as some of you suggest. Especially when you are coming into a situation where the entire (both sides) coaching staff was not jettisonned. My other issue, is which candidate has such cloat that he can make that demand? Greg Williams? Last couple of years not that good. Mike Nolan? maybe. Any of the young guys like McDermit? don't think so.

My sense is that like many issues there is a lot more gray as what is "normal" or "usual" in regard to who gets say over a hiring. Pretty sure, Kubiak is taking the last say in hiring even if he get recommndations from the DC. I am sure that a part of the interview process is are familiar with _____ and maybe even a meeting with _____? Is there any reason you don't see being able to work with _____? etc.

So then, Bush is like a Quality Control guy over the defense. He ensures that Kubiak's vision is carried out? Sort of like Robert Duvall's character in the Godfather movies?

Kubiak has direct supervision over Shanny Jr., since Kubiak's an offense-minded person anyways. And he's using Bush as an adviser/director. Bush's role is to make sure Kubiak can keep tabs on the d-coord without having to spend the time and effort in doing it himself?

Sounds about the way Kubiak would handle it: He wants the ability to overrule a coach and to have (a) a person to do it and (b) a person to do it who knows what Kubiak wants, which is what happened with Kubiak-Bush-Richard Smith according to one of our own sources here on TT who said Bush told him that he and Kubiak handcuffed Richard Smith on certain things.

I dig ya'.

The whole "not announcing Bush as d-coord" thing can be explained easily if Bush is more of a Quality Control type of person. He's essentially an elevated adviser for defense. Maybe.

[PHAROAH]

I don't think Kubiak really know what style of defense they want to run at this point if they knew they would be very serious about the process unless they have certain candidates that are still in the playoffs. I think that Frank Bush as defensive coordinator is a move in the wrong direction for the Texans because he was on the defensive staff that failed to put a better product on the field.

[barrett]

Dudes,

I want this to go well just like the rest of you. I'm as anxious and any of you. I've been as out spoken as anyone that I want a hire! It's killing me too! I'm reading anything and everything into any little morsel of information that we get just like you!

But it's just an interview. Some teams are very public about any movement. Traditionally, this team is very hush about it's activities and usually very "under the radar" with it's choices and decisions. Part of it is we're not the GBP's or the Broncos, Patriots etc. We're the Texans. We're not a high profile team. We draft no names sometimes that are pretty good. We hire less news making gee golly gosh people sometimes. We're not a news making team.

The saints trade for guys like Shockey. We don't. Shockey didn't score a TD this year. Not one. They are much more public about there actions than we are but also they make moves that we don't. They publicly interview 4 DC's right out of the gate. We interview a few position coaches that we think might be a good fit. We're not sure. That's why we're interviewing them. We are a much more careful calculated team. Our Owner, GM, HC, Superstar WR, Superstar DE, Rookie Sensation RB are all careful, thoughtful people who are patient and team oriented. This is the nature of OUR HOUSTON TEXANS.

you gotta love 'em.

Go Texans.

[Errant Hothy]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan

I am not as sure that coordiantors (on either side) get the right to hire their guys as blindly as some of you suggest. Especially when you are coming into a situation where the entire (both sides) coaching staff was not jettisonned. My other issue, is which candidate has such cloat that he can make that demand? Greg Williams? Last couple of years not that good. Mike Nolan? maybe. Any of the young guys like McDermit? don't think so.

My sense is that like many issues there is a lot more gray as what is "normal" or "usual" in regard to who gets say over a hiring. Pretty sure, Kubiak is taking the last say in hiring even if he get recommndations from the DC. I am sure that a part of the interview process is are familiar with _____ and maybe even a meeting with _____? Is there any reason you don't see being able to work with _____? etc.

I agree with this, in fact I think the days of a OC or DC being allowed to jettison any entire staff to bring his guys is are over, if they ever truly existed in the first place. GMs and team owners are starting to catch on to the fact that one of the commodities they have they most control over is their coaching staffs. They can being in the young guys who they think will be successful, bring him along, pay him whatever they need to keep him (unlike players in the salary cap era), deny other teams access to him until he is ready to coach for their team. I think Kyle Shannanon may be the perfect example of this on the Texans.

[Texans_Chick]

Originally Posted by Hoth-Boy

I agree with this, in fact I think the days of a OC or DC being allowed to jettison any entire staff to bring his guys is are over, if they ever truly existed in the first place. GMs and team owners are starting to catch on to the fact that one of the commodities they have they most control over is their coaching staffs. They can being in the young guys who they think will be successful, bring him along, pay him whatever they need to keep him (unlike players in the salary cap era), deny other teams access to him until he is ready to coach for their team. I think Kyle Shannanon may be the perfect example of this on the Texans.

Most DCs don't have enough of their guys to fill an entire staff when they take over a new position.

The Texans aren't the only ones interviewing position coaches before chosing a DC. Saints recently hired a position coach before picking the DC.

[Kaiser Toro]

There is also the possibility that the Texans have not been given clearance to interview one or more of the candidates they want to bring in.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by GP

Hmmm...I can buy that.

The question, posed by bckey, is: Why don't they just go ahead and announce it? What's the point of hiding it? What in the world do we gain by playing it in this manner?

Is Frank Bush going to be some sort of Defense Quality Control Director or something...the guy who sits with folded arms and keeps watch over the defense?

Can't wait for this to wrap up. This is like watching "24." LOL.

My answer to that question would be "I don't know (but I wish I did)". The thing about the Texans is that if they go with Frank Bush in the end and if every move they make every single step of the way to that result seems to indicate that they were going to hire Frank Bush all along then they'll still stand up in front of the world and tell everyone that they didn't have their minds made up all along.

When you ask "Why go through all of that?" I can't answer you because I'm asking the same question all the time about the Texans. They do a lot of junk like this and it always leaves me scratching my head and thinking "Why play everything like it's triple-top-secret? You look stupid doing that" They've always done things this way and I guess it's cultural with them at this point.

I think Frank Bush is the New DC if we don't find anyone who seems to be obviously more qualified.

[bckey]

I'm holding out hope that Kubiak has contacted the Eagles to interview McDermott. Kubiak is old school enough to say he wants to wait until after their playoff run is finished. It is possible like some of you have said also that the Eagles could deny the Texans permission until after the playoffs. I think it would be more of a mutual agreement between both parties to wait. Maybe if the Eagles go to the superbowl they might spare McDermott a day out of those 2 weeks for an interview. It would be a lot less distracting with 2 weeks to prepare instead of 1.

I'm ok with little Gibbs. He seems to have a decent enough resume. And if it turns out that the Texans do hire a position coach like McDermott what staff would he have been able to bring anyway? I looked up the staff for the Giants and when they were hired and it looks like the Giants were fully staffed on defense when they hired Steve Spagnuolo. He didn't get to bring in anyone as far as I can tell. I know an established dc usually brings in some people he has worked with but a position coach making the jump to coordinator maybe not the norm.

I agree with Hervoyel. They do a lot of junk like this and it always leaves me scratching my head and thinking "Why play everything like it's triple-top-secret? You look stupid doing that" I just hope in the end the Texans end up with an excellent dc.