09 Mock Draft

[beerlover]

2009 DRAFT PROJECTION http://www.gbnreport.com/

November 12, 2008

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1 Detroit *Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
2 Kansas City *Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
3 Cincinnati *Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
4 San Francisco *Andre Smith OT Alabama
5 Oakland Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State
6 Seattle Michael Oher OT Mississippi
7 St. Louis *Vontae Davis CB Illinois
8 Houston Will Moore DB Missouri
9 Cleveland James Laurinaitis LB Ohio State
10 Green Bay Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
11 San Diego Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
12 New Orleans Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
13 Jacksonville Rey Maualuga LB Southern California
14 Buffalo *Ciron Black OT LSU
15 Denver *Chris Wells RB Ohio State
16 Miami *Tim Tebow QB Florida
17 Chicago *Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
18 Indianapolis *Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
19 Minnesota Brian Orakpo DE Texas
20 Detroit (from Dallas) *George Selvie DE South Florida
21 Philadelphia *Taylor Mays FS Southern California
22 New York Jets *LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
23 Tampa Bay *Percy Harvin WR Florida
24 Atlanta Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
25 New England *Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
26 Washington Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
27 Arizona Brian Cushing LB Southern California
28 Baltimore Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
29 Pittsburgh Alex Mack C California
30 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Jason Smith OT Baylor
31 New York Giants *Brandon Spikes LB Florida
32 Tennessee B.J. Raji DT Boston College

[bah007]

I don't think Moore is a top 10 talent.

Would much rather have Orakpo there or trade back and get Mays, Moore, or a DE later in the round.

[TexansFan33]

I think we need to address our pass rush stuation if Michael Johnson(6-7, 270, 4.6 forty) is available then we need to take him he is a absolute FREAK OF NATURE him and mario togther would be an absolute nightmare. He can also be a linebacker. We can go about the free agency and pick up a few key free agents.

[The1ApplePie]

Originally Posted by TexansFan33

I think we need to address our pass rush stuation if Michael Johnson(6-7, 270, 4.6 forty) is available then we need to take him he is a absolute FREAK OF NATURE him and mario togther would be an absolute nightmare. He can also be a linebacker. We can go about the free agency and pick up a few key free agents.

Michael Johnson has been a freak of nature that has never done a damn thing on the field.

Orakpo may be a bigger freak and is actually a football player. I'm not a Longhorns fan but I'd take the Rak any day

[Wolf6151]

I think come draft day the Texans will pick around 5-7 and believe that if we don't get Orakpo (much better player than Michael Johnson) then we should trade down to the upper/mid 20's and take Alex Mack. We should be able to pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick from the trade down and can then fill lots of our holes with good players.

[threetoedpete]

Originally Posted by kastofsna

ya i'll be fine with Selvie

George Selvie DE South Florida

The guy has great big huge hands....very long arms....and is a very articulate young man, A "Texans " player fur shure. But 255 is 255. He started out as a 215 pound center. His body growth has hit it's celling. If they draft him fine. But don't cry when he is getting rolled on rushing plays. Gonna have to have someone rotating with the guy.

[threetoedpete]

Every time I see Mr. Moore he is bouncing off of a tackle. One thing our Dbs are supposed to be able to do is tackle. The Wr's and Rb's block and the DBs tackle.
That's the first thing. If they can't, you scratch them off our board.

[PapaL]

Moore or Wells?

I'll take Beanie.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

I think come draft day the Texans will pick around 5-7 and believe that if we don't get Orakpo (much better player than Michael Johnson) then we should trade down to the upper/mid 20's and take Alex Mack. We should be able to pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick from the trade down and can then fill lots of our holes with good players.

If we came out of the first round with Alex Mack and an extra 2nd I would be jumping for joy.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by threetoedpete

Every time I see Mr. Moore he is bouncing off of a tackle. One thing our Dbs are supposed to be able to do is tackle. The Wr's and Rb's block and the DBs tackle.
That's the first thing. If they can't, you scratch them off our board.

Put me is the "Moore is overrated" group.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by mussop

If we came out of the first round with Alex Mack and an extra 2nd I would be jumping for joy.

agreed

[stingray]

Originally Posted by beerlover

yeah I know its early but it seems fitting to start looking around the nation for possible upgrades once again. I don't focus too much on who they have Houston selecting more on where players are rated & I think this one does a very good job of placement or pecking order so to speak. you can check it for weekly updates as well-

http://walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

Houston Texans: Myron Rolle, S, Florida State
Basically the Best Player Available formula for a team really hurting for defense. It's not like safety isn't a need, anyway. Poor Texans fans had to watch Ben Roethlisberger and Kerry Collins dissect their stop unit to exact precision this season.

He's a Rhodes Scholar now and will go to oxford to study next year. Might not enter the draft. Man, that is impressive. That should give him an advantage if he enters the draft. Teams want smart Players.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/brea...ry/783693.html

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by stingray

He's a Rhodes Scholar now and will go to oxford to study next year. Might not enter the draft. Man, that is impressive. That should give him an advantage if he enters the draft. Teams want smart Players.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/brea...ry/783693.html

How long is he going to be out of football due to going to Oxford? .... Teams want smart players but being away from the game for an extended period of time takes its toll in many a way. Teams may be skeptical after a 2-3 year absense.

[stingray]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

How long is he going to be out of football due to going to Oxford? .... Teams want smart players but being away from the game for an extended period of time takes its toll in many a way. Teams may be skeptical after a 2-3 year absense.

I meant if he enters the draft next year and forgoes his scholarship. Yeah, you are correct, if he doesn't play for some years, than he will drop if he tries to comeback.

[TexansSeminole]

I'd bet that Myron never plays in the NFL. He's studying stem cell research. There are other things besides playing football for him to be doing.

[bah007]

Originally Posted by TexansSeminole

I'd bet that Myron never plays in the NFL. He's studying stem cell research. There are other things besides playing football for him to be doing.

Agreed.

Sadly, there are more important things in life than football.

[beerlover]

http://www.gbnreport.com/2009projection.html

1 Detroit Sam Bradford QB RSO Oklahoma

2 Cincinnati Michael Crabtree WR RSO Texas Tech

3T St. Louis Andre Smith OT JR Alabama

4T Kansas City Brian Orakpo DE SR Texas

5T Seattle Michael Oher OT SR Mississippi

6 Oakland Malcolm Jenkins CB SR Ohio State

7 San Francisco Matthew Stafford QB JR Georgia

8 San Diego Rey Maualuga LB SR Southern California

9 Jacksonville Jeremy Maclin WR RSO Missouri

10 Cleveland Chris Wells RB JR Ohio State

11 Green Bay Aaron Curry LB SR Wake Forest

12 Houston Will Moore FS SR Missouri

13 Buffalo Eugene Monroe OT SR Virginia

14 Chicago Vontae Davis CB JR Illinois

15 New Orleans Taylor Mays FS JR Southern California

16 Philadelphia Duke Robinson OG SR Oklahoma

17 Miami Terrence Cody DT JR Alabama

18 New England Knowshon Moreno RB RSO Georgia

19 Washington George Selvie DE JR South Florida

20 Denver James Laurinaitis LB SR Ohio State

21 Arizona Michael Johnson DE SR Georgia Tech

22 Minnesota Tim Tebow QB JR Florida

23 Detroit (from Dallas) Alphonso Smith CB SR Wake Forest

24 New York Jets Tyson Jackson DE SR LSU

25 Atlanta B.J. Raji DT SR Boston College

26 Indianapolis Sen'Derrick Marks DT JR Auburn

27 Baltimore D.J. Moore CB JR Vanderbilt

28 Tampa Bay Jermaine Gresham TE JR Oklahoma

29 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Darrius Heyward-Bey WR JR Maryland

30 Pittsburgh Jason Smith OT SR Baylor

31 Tennessee Greg Hardy DE JR Mississippi

32 New York Giants Brian Cushing LB SR Southern California

I like this early mock for the Texans both with selection (William Moore FS Missouri) & who will demand incoming trade offers (Eugene Monroe OT Virginia). For instance it would make sense for Detroit to use their 2nd pick of the 1st rd. (aquired from Cowboys for Roy Williams) with a 2nd rd. pick to move up for Monroe & provide protection for #1 overall pick Bradford. that would leave Houston with the 23rd overall selection & the 33rd overall pick. #12 pick = 1200 23rd =760 + 33rd =580 total = 1340 vs. 1200 which is made good (#80 = 190) with Philly, who covet TE Jermaine Gresham. hauling in another 2nd plus 3rd to hand back to Detroit (not Texans pick).

end result you can select Moore & be done with it or get more by trading down #29 (from Philadelphia) OLB Brian Cushing #33 (from Detroit)DE George Selvie #48 (from Philadephia) DT Jerry Peria. plus Texans keep their own 2nd Center Antoine Caldwell, Alabama & 3rd rd. pick RB James Davis, Clemson. not a bad haul if I must so myself.....replacement for Greenwood who has length & can cover, new starting DE with elite pass rushing skills, tough, pocket pushing DT next to Amobi, athletic/versatile O-lineman that can start @ Center or Guard killing two birds with one stone & power running back between the tackles to help balance the ground game.

[bah007]

I will be very surprised if William Moore is chosen before Taylor Mays.

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by bah007

I will be very surprised if William Moore is chosen before Taylor Mays.

Have not watched Taylor Mays since USC Trojans got in Corvallis, has he improved his bone headed play? stupid penaltys, under-achieving natural talent. Texans don't need to draft based on potential they need to draft smart, dedicated football players who make consistant plays. his attitude or apptitude along with moral fiber & character are all reasons why he is not a top 10 lock. of course he has the Rose Bowl, all-star game, combine & personel workouts to change scouts minds.

[bah007]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Have not watched Taylor Mays since USC Trojans got in Corvallis, has he improved his bone headed play? stupid penaltys, under-achieving natural talent. Texans don't need to draft based on potential they need to draft smart, dedicated football players who make consistant plays. his attitude or apptitude along with moral fiber & character are all reasons why he is not a top 10 lock. of course he has the Rose Bowl, all-star game, combine & personel workouts to change scouts minds.

I wasn't speaking about the Texans specifically, because I don't think we will go safety in round one.

Mays has played better as the season has progressed, but yes, he is still not playing up to the level he could/should be.

I think Moore is very overrated. Most of the CBs in this draft class wrap up on tackles better than he does.