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Old 04-27-2013   #1
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Will be an OLB in this scheme. His college numbers are really good.
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I'm liking this pick.

He's a Wade guy. Fits what we do.
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B. I like the player (he will put up sacks), but he is a one-dimensional edge rusher.

I would have preferred to see an ILB or NT, but they must not be highly rated by the FO. Or it means that Reed is for sure moving to ILB.
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Seems to be good value here. Good motor, maybe he and Braman can tear it up on ST.
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Good pick for late in the 4th round.
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Default Re: Draft Grades Round 4 - Trevardo Williams

Probably a special teamer. Quick but gets beat a lot by bigger tackles.
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Default Re: Draft Grades Round 4 - Trevardo Williams

Pre-combine Trevardo Williams article.

Basically, I am so amazingly STOKED we got Trevardo Williams. I've been watching his tape and this guy is a BEAST. He's so freaking fast, it's ridiculous.

He was the fastest DE in the 40 at the Combine at 4.57. And would have been one of the faster OLBs in the 40. He also had the 3rd best vertical jump for all the DEs and OLBs.

And he was coming off a bad ankle and he wasn't sure how he'd do.

I think we got a bit of a steal here.
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I agree perhaps the most instant impact player we picked partially because his responsibilities will likely be a bit like Mark Anderson in his rookie year, ie get the qb.
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Default Re: Draft Grades Round 4 - Trevardo Williams

Trevardo just needs to get a bit stronger in his upper body and to develop at least two good go-to moves. I'd like to see him learn to set Olinemen up better and use his speed even more to his advantage.

But I think he can instantly be of help to the team.
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Trevardo just needs to get a bit stronger in his upper body and to develop at least two good go-to moves. I'd like to see him learn to set Olinemen up better and use his speed even more to his advantage.

But I think he can instantly be of help to the team.
Dude had 30 reps .

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Dude had 30 reps .
There is playing strength, and then there is weight room strength. However, I do also disagree with Rey. I think Williams lack of strength is a lack of lower body/core strength. If he strengths his legs/butt/core, we should see him playing up to those 30 reps.

I do agree with Rey as it pertains to pass rush moves though. Williams has one move- speed. He got away with just being faster in college, it wont work as well in the NFL.
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There is playing strength, and then there is weight room strength. However, I do also disagree with Rey. I think Williams lack of strength is a lack of lower body/core strength. If he strengths his legs/butt/core, we should see him playing up to those 30 reps.

I do agree with Rey as it pertains to pass rush moves though. Williams has one move- speed. He got away with just being faster in college, it wont work as well in the NFL.
All that's true but to me he's explosive hence the 38 inch vertical and the 30 reps . The magic number used to be if the bench , vertical , and broad jump added to 70 , then their an explosive athlete . He's at 78 , JJ Watt was 81 .
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However, I do also disagree with Rey. I think Williams lack of strength is a lack of lower body/core strength. If he strengths his legs/butt/core, we should see him playing up to those 30 reps.
Fighting off blocks has a lot more to do with your upper body and core strength than it does with lower body strength.

Holding your ground or moving guys backwards has more to do with your leg.


Have someone you know try to pass block you or latch on to you and you try to get pass them. You don't have to go full speed or anything..just walk...

See how much you use your arms trying to get free and the different motions you put your arms through. Fighting off blocks takes a lot of strength in your arms.

And the shorter your arms are, the more upper body strength you need to get people off of you.
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Dude had 30 reps .

Playing football is not like bench pressing. Look at him on film and you can see that at times he struggles to use his arms to get off of linemen. Sometimes they just engulf him.

Bench Pressing is a repetitive motion at a light weight. The muscles involved and their function are different when it comes to fighting off blocks in the trenches.

A guy can maybe be really strong, but not do as many reps on the bench press if he doesn't have good muscle endurance. 225 isn't really heavy.

I'm not saying you can be a weakling and throw it up a bunch of times, but the guy with the most raw strength doesn't always put up the most reps in the 225lb reps.

All that said, just look at him on film. You can see that at times when the OL get their hands on him he struggles to get away from them. If he had more playing strength in his upper body it'd help him. That's going to require a range of upper body workouts besides bench. You need all those muscles because of the different angles and distribution of weight you put on your arms fighting off blocks. It's not just the bench press motion.
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I'd still be interested to see what he might be able to do inside next to Cush. Unless, of course, he comes in and looks really impressive as an OLB to Wade. Going by his measurable and the bits and pieces I've seen of him I'd rather see him inside than Reed
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This guy had Seattle written all over him. I am slightly surprised he was available when we selected in the 4th.
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Grade B plus
A late fourth rounder for situational pass rush.
Could have earned an A grade if only he shows a little more strength at the POA.
This could hinder his upside to become a 3-down player; therefore, no A grade.
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